VOTE COUNTDOWN

Kate Horton · Post by **Kate Horton** » Fri May 22, 2009 11:44 am

Hello everyone.
If you have a spare couple of minutes please vote for Countdown in the 'Quiz Show' catergory in the TV Quick Awards 2009.
We all deserve a night on the razz, don't you think?!
Thank you for your support.
Kate

http://www.tvquick.co.uk/

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Fri May 22, 2009 11:47 am

You can go straight to the survey at: http://www.demographix.com/surveys/YJDK ... A95/?quick

You can also press Space on any of the other pages to skip them.

Ballot stuffing go go go!

Paul Howe · Post by **Paul Howe** » Fri May 22, 2009 12:40 pm

Perhaps worth noting that you have to continue for several pages beyond the "best gameshow" category to actually submit your vote.

Michael Wallace · Post by **Michael Wallace** » Fri May 22, 2009 12:50 pm

Kate Horton wrote:We all deserve a night on the razz, don't you think?!

This is a superb attempt at persuading someone to vote, great stuff

Edit: Although I wonder if they do something cunning like discount any votes coming from people who, say, only vote in one category.

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Fri May 22, 2009 12:52 pm

Michael Wallace wrote: Edit: Although I wonder if they do something cunning like discount any votes coming from people who, say, only vote in one category.

How is that cunning?

Michael Wallace · Post by **Michael Wallace** » Fri May 22, 2009 12:57 pm

Charlie Reams wrote:
Michael Wallace wrote: Edit: Although I wonder if they do something cunning like discount any votes coming from people who, say, only vote in one category.
How is that cunning?

If I were conducting a poll like this, I would be really suspicious of a show getting loads of votes from people who only vote in one category, since that would smell rather strongly of ballot stuffing.

Steve Durney · Post by **Steve Durney** » Fri May 22, 2009 1:22 pm

I'm up to ten votes so far......

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Fri May 22, 2009 1:25 pm

Michael Wallace wrote:
Charlie Reams wrote:
Michael Wallace wrote: Edit: Although I wonder if they do something cunning like discount any votes coming from people who, say, only vote in one category.
How is that cunning?
If I were conducting a poll like this, I would be really suspicious of a show getting loads of votes from people who only vote in one category, since that would smell rather strongly of ballot stuffing.

Sure, but then what about only voting in 2 categories? 3? Where do you draw the line? Any voting system where you don't have a real mechanism for stopping duplicate voting is going to generate very questionable results.

Michael Wallace · Post by **Michael Wallace** » Fri May 22, 2009 2:04 pm

Charlie Reams wrote:Sure, but then what about only voting in 2 categories? 3? Where do you draw the line? Any voting system where you don't have a real mechanism for stopping duplicate voting is going to generate very questionable results.

Are you feeling alright? You appear to be channelling the spirt of Phil Reynolds in response to my not particularly serious suggestions.

Phil Reynolds · Post by **Phil Reynolds** » Fri May 22, 2009 2:10 pm

Michael Wallace wrote:the spirt of Phil Reynolds

Supply your own punchline.

Michael Wallace · Post by **Michael Wallace** » Fri May 22, 2009 2:11 pm

Phil Reynolds wrote:
Michael Wallace wrote:the spirt of Phil Reynolds
Supply your own punchline.

Haha, and to think I spent so long double checking channelling/channeling...

Martin Bishop · Post by **Martin Bishop** » Sat May 23, 2009 5:30 pm

You've got my voted, although I was mightily tempted to vote for Hole In The Wall.

Kate Horton · Post by **Kate Horton** » Tue May 26, 2009 11:13 am

Thanks to all those who have voted. We love you all!

Jason Larsen · Post by **Jason Larsen** » Wed May 27, 2009 4:26 am

I voted for Coronation Street and Last of the Summer Wine in their respective categories because they are both institutions, and I voted for Antiques Roadshow because it is a modern classic.

And yes, I did vote for Countdown in the Best Quiz Show category.

Philip Jarvis · Post by **Philip Jarvis** » Wed May 27, 2009 9:16 am

Kate Horton wrote: We all deserve a night on the razz, don't you think?!

Kate - Vote registered. I hope you win and if the night out is anything like my experience on Final Countdown day, I'm sure you'll have a great time.

Kate Horton · Post by **Kate Horton** » Wed May 27, 2009 9:53 am

Philip Jarvis wrote:
Kate Horton wrote: We all deserve a night on the razz, don't you think?!
Kate - Vote registered. I hope you win and if the night out is anything like my experience on Final Countdown day, I'm sure you'll have a great time.

Thanks Philip. We all need a night out of Cleckhuddersfax every once in a while!

Jason Larsen · Post by **Jason Larsen** » Wed May 27, 2009 4:16 pm

I concur with all of you.

Kate Horton · Post by **Kate Horton** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:33 am

The shortlist for the TV Quick Awards (Best Gameshow) were announced today.
No Countdown. Gutted. Will put my party frock back into storage...

All Star Family Fortunes ITV1
Chris Moyles’ Quiz Night C4
Deal Or No Deal C4
Total Wipeout BBC1

But thanks to everyone who did vote for us. Love you all xx

Steve Durney · Post by **Steve Durney** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:38 am

Kate Horton wrote:The shortlist for the TV Quick Awards (Best Gameshow) were announced today.
No Countdown. Gutted. Will put my party frock back into storage...

All Star Family Fortunes ITV1
Chris Moyles’ Quiz Night C4
Deal Or No Deal C4
Total Wipeout BBC1

But thanks to everyone who did vote for us. Love you all xx

Chris Moyles' Quiz Night is a better gameshow than Countdown?! Do me a favour!!

Kate Horton · Post by **Kate Horton** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:41 am

Took the words right out of my mouth, Steve!

Howard Somerset · Post by **Howard Somerset** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:45 am

I'd put Countdown way ahead of all four of that lot.

Kate Horton wrote:Will put my party frock back into storage...

Never mind. Damian will probably get a chance to wear it sometime.

Craig Beevers · Post by **Craig Beevers** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:17 pm

Kate Horton wrote:The shortlist for the TV Quick Awards (Best Gameshow) were announced today.
No Countdown. Gutted. Will put my party frock back into storage...

All Star Family Fortunes ITV1
Chris Moyles’ Quiz Night C4
Deal Or No Deal C4
Total Wipeout BBC1

But thanks to everyone who did vote for us. Love you all xx

Sounds like the newer ones were favoured, along with the brainless shite. Even Family Fortunes has been dumbed down with those absolutely godawful family introductions that make the blatantly staged clips in You've Been Framed look clever.

Michael Wallace · Post by **Michael Wallace** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:19 pm

I haven't seen the Chris Moyles one, but the rest??

I mean really - All Star Family Fortunes? Jesus.

Derek Hazell · Post by **Derek Hazell** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:23 pm

Michael Wallace wrote:I haven't seen the Chris Moyles one, but the rest??

You didn't even watch it when the Vord of the Board was a contestant? Sacrilige!

Seriously though, I would agree that all those shows are a bit crap. They are lowest common denominator programming, but then this is TV Quick we are talking about. I would have expected so much more had it been the Radio Times!

Ben Wilson · Post by **Ben Wilson** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:34 pm

Kate Horton wrote:All Star Family Fortunes ITV1
Chris Moyles’ Quiz Night C4
Deal Or No Deal C4
Total Wipeout BBC1

Horrific, shite, total shite, will only be good when Jon Stitcher appears on it. Goes to show really what plebians vote in these contests.

Ralph Gillions · Post by **Ralph Gillions** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:58 pm

I'm sorry Countdown has not made it to the final shortlist.
But Kate's recent post spurred me to go back to the TV Quick site and vote
for Being Human in the Best New Drama category.

Junaid Mubeen · Post by **Junaid Mubeen** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:13 pm

Kate Horton wrote:The shortlist for the TV Quick Awards (Best Gameshow) were announced today.
No Countdown. Gutted. Will put my party frock back into storage...

All Star Family Fortunes ITV1
Chris Moyles’ Quiz Night C4
Deal Or No Deal C4
Total Wipeout BBC1

This vexes me. How to unleash my fury?!

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:30 pm

Junaid Mubeen wrote:
Kate Horton wrote:The shortlist for the TV Quick Awards (Best Gameshow) were announced today.
No Countdown. Gutted. Will put my party frock back into storage...

All Star Family Fortunes ITV1
Chris Moyles’ Quiz Night C4
Deal Or No Deal C4
Total Wipeout BBC1
/quote]

This vexes me. How to unleash my fury?!

I'd say an ill-formed quote should do it.

Junaid Mubeen · Post by **Junaid Mubeen** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:53 pm

But now I've fixed it and am calm again. I need rage. Bring back Sudbery!

Only kidding. Seriously, don't you ever come back.

Mark Harrison · Post by **Mark Harrison** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:18 pm

It's a testament to how dumb people are that random box opening gets a place where Countdown doesn't. Really shocking.

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:28 pm

Mark Harrison wrote:It's a testament to how dumb people are that random box opening gets a place where Countdown doesn't. Really shocking.

You can pretty much break down all quiz shows into their most basic core components and suddenly they sound entirely uninspiring.
I fucking hate Deal or No Deal, but it's not just random box opening, just like Family Fortunes isn't just guessing survey results, and Countdown isn't just anagram solving.

Phil Reynolds · Post by **Phil Reynolds** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:41 pm

Mark Harrison wrote:It's a testament to how dumb people are that random box opening gets a place where Countdown doesn't. Really shocking.

I don't think this is entirely fair, TBH. People are not being asked to vote for the most intellectually stimulating game show format; they're choosing their favourite, which brings in all sorts of other factors such as entertainment value, tension and emotional involvement. The stroke of genius that the UK producers of DOND had, which sets it apart from most other versions of the show around the world, is that of having the boxes opened by potential contestants instead of models. The fact that the regular audience gets to know a player over a period of several weeks' worth of daily shows before they take their place in the hot seat adds enormously to the audience's emotional investment in that player, as does the contestants' evident bonding with and support for each other. The fact that the game itself relies largely on luck and a gambling instinct, and not much skill other than an ability to gauge probabilities, is irrelevant.

James Doohan · Post by **James Doohan** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:45 pm

Matt Morrison wrote: You can pretty much break down all quiz shows into their most basic core components and suddenly they sound entirely uninspiring.
I fucking hate Deal or No Deal, but it's not just random box opening, just like Family Fortunes isn't just guessing survey results, and Countdown isn't just anagram solving.

Could you elaborate on what else it is? It appears to be random box opening to me

Junaid Mubeen · Post by **Junaid Mubeen** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:56 pm

What pisses me off about DOND is how it tries to take itself seriously as a strategic game. The only reason each show takes up 45 minutes is that they chat so much shit about the significance of numbers and the alleged wickedness of the banker etc. Annoyingly, its viewers seem to buy into this crap.

Phil Reynolds · Post by **Phil Reynolds** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:57 pm

james doohan wrote:
Matt Morrison wrote:I fucking hate Deal or No Deal, but it's not just random box opening, just like Family Fortunes isn't just guessing survey results, and Countdown isn't just anagram solving.
Could you elaborate on what else it is? It appears to be random box opening to me

Imagine a game show where a contestant is faced with an array of boxes containing unknown prizes. They're asked to choose one of the boxes, without knowing what's inside. Their chosen box is then opened, and whatever's inside is what the contestant wins. That's random box opening.

Junaid Mubeen · Post by **Junaid Mubeen** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:57 pm

Oh...I love Family Fortunes though, as such shows are aware that their format isn't to be taken too seriously.

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:36 pm

james doohan wrote:
Matt Morrison wrote: You can pretty much break down all quiz shows into their most basic core components and suddenly they sound entirely uninspiring.
I fucking hate Deal or No Deal, but it's not just random box opening, just like Family Fortunes isn't just guessing survey results, and Countdown isn't just anagram solving.
Could you elaborate on what else it is? It appears to be random box opening to me

Choosing to accept or reject the banker's offer is a distinctly non-trivial strategic decision. If it seems trivial then you haven't thought about it hard enough.

Mark Harrison · Post by **Mark Harrison** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:19 pm

What I said was a little unfair - but essentially, it's a game show for people who don't like game shows. The only decision the contestant has to make with any aspect of skill or judgement is the decision to take the money offered by the banker or not.

The fact that people come up with systems to 'beat the banker' (and that these are given credence) really irritates me - in addition to the quasi-religious terminology that abounds ('Crazy Chair', 'Walk of Wealth' etc.). The only investment made by the viewer is an emotional one, and as a consequence it only just qualifies as a game show at all.

Craig Beevers · Post by **Craig Beevers** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:25 pm

Nah it's a gameshow for gullible halfwits.

It taps into the religious/superstitious/spiritual sort of person that can't find enough faith healing/psychic bullshit on TV. It then mixes in some trash reality show/'celebrity' gossip magazine elements.

Anyone with even the vaguest glimmer of intelligence will be insulted by the complete bollocks spouted by people on the show.