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Tal Lessner

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/11/maga ... a-war.html

Almost a week old, but still, a very comprehensive article about the main reason why the ethnic cleansing and slaughter in Gaza (and also the West Bank) continues without any clear goals or any real attempt to end it.

Tal Lessner

I don't expect people to watch these videos to be able to respond to me. It's more - this is what I'm saying but also here's someone else articulating it quite well (possibly better than me). You did mention Owen Jones btw. And I'm definitely not going to listen to another one of your insane youtub...

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I came here for other reasons (see below) but since that's still the last post - using the fact that I linked to an Owen Jones video once ages ago as some sort of argument for anything, and then dismissing the other video without watching it on the same basis just shows how full of shit you are. Yo...

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Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Wed Jun 25, 2025 1:36 pm Your description does not apply to Owen Jones or Novara Media.

Didn't have a reason to check out Novara, but definitely saw some OJones videos and my description is bang on.

Tal Lessner

I'm willing to discuss my points. You assert with aggression and insults. Aside from who might be right or wrong in our stances, that's the biggest difference between us on here. I'm very happy to discuss different opinions. I have much less patience when my perception is that the other person igno...

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Well I think we need to remember that just one participant in this discussion is having to decamp to bomb shelters regularly, so fun/passionate/well-intended though internet debates might be, let's recognise the human element. Fiona, I try not to fully involve my personal experience in this discuss...

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Because it's insane to attribute Hezbollah joining the attack on Israel 24 hours after Hamas' attack as support because of bombardment. I'm sorry, I just can't comprehend how a fully functioning brain could reach this conclusion. And I'm definitely not going to listen to another one of your insane y...

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I know that Iran funds the organisations you mention, but I don't think it necessarily controls them, any more than the US controls Israel. Yes they do, US Generals don't sit and dictate strategy to Israel. US Officials don't dictate policy to Israel. Iran does, it is proven and 100% true that Iran...

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Gavin, you always point out how terrible Israel is (and it is), while deliberately ignoring the fact the other side is even worse. Iran leaders have stated many times before that they're objective is the destruction of Israel, not to free Palestine, but annihilate the "Zionist Entity". And...

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The 80s is the best decade for music. Nor sure if it's unpopular tbh. I think no decade since had come close. I do like the 60s and 70s. In fact best decade if I may cheat is 1968 to 1978 Instead of 11, make it a 13 years decade perhaps? Can't leave out 67 a year with the most all time best albums ...

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Let's give it a go: Israel Egypt Jordan Morocco USA Portugal Spain France Ireland UK Iceland Belgium Netherlands Sweden (Being driven around for an hour and a half in a police car until they found us a bus to "deport" us back to Denmark counts?) Denmark Germany Switzerland Austria Italy Cr...

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This genocide is happening right now, and it’s not very funny. Come on, it's justified, Netanyahu needs to fire the head of Shin Bet due to him leading an investigation of officials in the prime minister office being paid by Qatar. And to finalise the return of the Nazi party to the government (the...

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The Netflix series, Drive To Survive, does more harm to Formula 1 than good. I think one should take it for what it is, a semi reality soap opera based on F1 personalities. Saw on an F1 forum a few months ago (when the 2024 season was still going) somebody posting that "he loves F1" but h...

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Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:42 pm Most of Jerry Seinfelds early stand up wouldn't work today thanks to Google

Completely agree. Unlike many of his contemporaries or even much earlier comics, his stand-up just isn't funny enough nowadays.

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Mark Deeks wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:58 pm Dikembe Mutombo. By far the tallest person I have ever played Jenga with.

Quite brave of you to play Mutombo in a game involving blocks.
RIP, one of my favourite players when I was still watching basketball (90s, early 00s)

Tal Lessner

No, you mistake an attempt at an explanation as a justification. In terms of justification, your early posts in this thread came across to me as very pro-Israel and a justification of everything they were doing and then there was this big reveal that you didn't support them. So maybe it's a lesson ...

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Well going back to the initial attacks, Israel were very quick to start attacking Gaza and I've read a few sources saying Lebanon's attacks started in support of Gaza due to this, even if it did start very quickly after the Hamas attack itself. Oh, yeah, keep this line. Hezbollah joined the attack ...

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OK, I might be wrong about the dates. I'm not justifying though but I do think each side has to be held responsible for its own actions. Being a lot more powerful and being able to unleash hell does come with that responsibility. And Israel was responsible trying to avoid full scale war for 11 mont...

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Presumably Hezbollah's attacks 11 months ago coincide with Israel's genocide in Gaza. This is not an endorsement of Hezbollah and their actions, but the hate of Israel doesn't come from a vacuum. No. Hezbollah launched the attack on 8th October. Following the 7th October massacre. Sure, they can ha...

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but the prolonged attacks on Hezbollah outside of Gaza is continuing as nobody has the clout to challenge it Are you kidding? I love the "prolonged attacks" bit... Especially considering Hezbullah has been bombing Israel for 11 months refusing any attempt to end hostilities. What is Israe...

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I can't take a dump , I get stage fright as it were if someone is talking to me whilst I'm in the toilet. In fact I can only take a dump at work if I use the disabled toilet ( I figured ADHD is a disability ) to minimise risk of conversations during a dump I wave to mine when I flush On the subject...

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That video is not available in my country. Interesting, it's directly from the Last Week Tonight US channel, and it is broadcast on Israeli cable so expected they open it for all. If you have somewhere to catch episodes of "Last Week Tonight" then look for it, about a month ago. And regar...

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I haven't really bothered posting about Israel recently, but if anyone is still remotely thinking that their actions are reasonable after everything we've seen, I'm not sure what could happen to change their mind. It's enough to listen to Netanyahu to understand that without a shred of a reasonable...

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Blackadder Goes Forth is in my opinion the best Series of any TV show ever. And the finale is the best non football related thing ever broadcast on tv.

Tal Lessner

Mark Deeks wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 1:59 pm Who paid cowboys?

I assume cow owners?

Tal Lessner

I suppose it was because you felt the need to state that it was wrong when it had already been covered. And when I said that Fred had clarified it, you seemed to make a point of saying that Fred "stated" it and that he mentioned that Callum's presentation of it was unclear as if to say &q...

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You just seemed a bit angry at how Callum had worded the initial post when it had been resolved. No, just stated it was wrong, why would I be angry about it and what did I say that seemed that way? And I wouldn't have mentioned it had this discussion not been revived last week. But even in the late...

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Single-payer healthcare is the basic for a somewhat functioning healthcare system where working-class and poor people can still get the healthcare they need. Want to pay for a private one as well? Go ahead, but no tax breaks on the national health taxes (And I pay for a private health insurance, so ...

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Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 10:20 am I don't know why you're so bitter about it.

Why bitter sweetheart?
Just mentioned that every time I was presented with this problem (many many times) it's always worded incorrectly and agreed with Fred.

Tal Lessner

I recently came across one of these scenes, assuming it's the same one, and my impression was that it was strong coercion; I paraphrase, "get in that bedroom or I'll knock your head off". I was amazed. I was referring to these two scenes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbZGN1WQ_Ms From T...

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But in this thread, it was clarified quite early on by Fred Mumford. Fred stated it, he also mentioned that on the original problem as presented by Callum, as well as every time I heard it over the past 25 years or so, it is not clear that the host will show an empty door regardless of what you pick.

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I know the mathematic rationale behind it and 100% agree with it. But there's a problem with the wording of the question. If it was worded like that "You are told to choose a door, and informed that after choosing, the host will reveal an empty door" then no doubt, switch doors, no problem...

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Bond could have instead murdered her - sorry killed with his licence to kill - and it would have been fine of course. My point is not about the morality of the actions in the film, but about depicting rape as a pleasant comical form of seduction. And even by mid 60s moral/legal standards, these are...

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Don't get me started on Pepe Le Pue Also Bladerunner but as she is a replicant maybe she don't count Pepe le Pew is a caricature on predatory behaviour The Blade Runner scene is made in a way to make the viewer uncomfortable and be perfectly aware it's fucked up. Irreversible (read a bit about it) ...

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Goldfinger & Thunderball, probably the two most successful Bond films, should be banned for glorifying rape. (And I don't mean just the general Bond misogynistic rape culture, I mean outright rape). By banned I don't mean making it illegal to view, only that no streaming service / tv channel sh...

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Goldfinger & Thunderball, probably the two most successful Bond films, should be banned for glorifying rape. (And I don't mean just the general Bond misogynistic rape culture, I mean outright rape). By banned I don't mean making it illegal to view, only that no streaming service / tv channel sho...

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https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/netanyahu-says-icc-decisions-will-not-affect-israels-actions-set-dangerous-2024-04-26/ Don't think this recent ICC development will help much, but hopefully will get some international (mostly American) pressure on this weak, crazy, easily pressured excuse o...

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https://youtu.be/6guv0bzrIyk?si=kkmkweB8UfThw5IA

Loved the finale. A brilliant take on the Seinfeld one.

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Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:36 pm Australian Pink Floyd are probably better than the original Members now.

That is what I call an unpopular opinion

Probably true, since without Syd Barrett they were boring as fuck.

Tal Lessner

National level proportionality is hard to achieve without doing away with candidate-based voting. Democracy shouldn't just be about party brands. A compromise would be to have larger constituencies with five or six MPs to elect using a system like STV, which achieves PR without requiring candidates...

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I wonder about the logic behind the UK system though, I'm all for a parliamentary system where parliament elects the head of government. But what's the point of the constituencies? How is it fair that a party get 43% of votes but 56% MP seats, or 12% of the votes and only 1.7% of the MPs? I get the ...

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Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:14 am Good tribute bands are better to see live than the original band if that band was from the 70s or early 80s

I saw many 60s-80s artists in the past 20 years, most of them were still great performers and no tribute band, as good as it is, can get even close.

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Rhys Benjamin wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 6:50 pm Not quite appalling as Owen Jones's latest brain rot though, which is that Germany are only supporting Israel because of the Holocaust.

Why appalling? It's quite true

Tal Lessner

But then you look at shit like this from the left side: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jBHvx7POz8 How hard is it to say that a call for genocide is hate speech and harassment regardless of context? How ridiculously insane do you have to be (and these are deans of three ivy league universities!) h...

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Well my mum was Jewish so I don't consider myself a gentile but a mudblood, Jew at best I say Benni as I'm don't always spell his surname right Ignore the gentile thingie, was just wondering about the Benni name, considering everybody in Israel refers to him as Bibi, also in the US. Just use the ni...

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I think I addressed these points, and was quite specific what bothered me about them, otherwise you wouldn't have thought I was including you there. I understand where you're coming from also. I just think that some of your comments are outrageous while intentionally ignoring key facts. And that's t...

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Watching them today, Curb is probably funnier than Seinfeld. But that's mostly affected by time. Seinfeld (the show) is 35 years old, at its time it was more groundbreaking and funnier than its contemporaries. Also today I find it funny as hell, especially considering it was on public tv (no swearin...

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Would the last person defending Israel please turn off the lights. Never would defend Benni Until I got to this forum, I didn't know you gentiles refer to Bibi as Benni. I just refer to him as "that insane guy who holds Israel hostage and will continue shitting everything up until he dies (hop...

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Sure, and I wonder if you include me in that "all in" thing based on things said earlier. But I absolutely do not support Hamas. I criticise Israel in particular because the UK and a lot of western countries support it and there is (though getting less so) disagreement and debate over whe...

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I was talking with a friend of mine a couple of days ago, following an argument we had (mostly him, I give up on idiots after one message) with other members of some Formula 1 Whatsapp group following Hamilton latest Gaza comments. He was considered there self hating, anti Israeli, disgusting etc, j...

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Not that he's in it all the time, but the death of Richard Lewis probably makes it less likely if anything. Bob Einstein died, (Marty Funkhouser) and he was in it more regularly than Richard I think unless David gets killed off in the end then even if he ends up in jail, as is likely he could do an...

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I have been watching the new season of Curb Your Enthusiasm. Brilliant as usual although not as good as previous seasons. Also watched Season 1 of Barry with Bill Hader which is excellent. Can't wait to watch the rest. I think the current final series of Curb is as brilliant as its predecessors. He...

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I really love both Yes (Prime) Minister and the Iannucci political series/films.
The fact that a despicable woman liked something I like isn't a good enough reason to stop liking it.

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What's so iconic about the Abbey Road album cover? It's just some people walking. Basically it's the greatest album ever made. So whatever cover it would have had, it would have been iconic. But regardless, the Beatles walking outside their recording studio on the last album they recorded there - I...

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Sun King is a blatant rip off of Albatross and these are two totally separate and distinct songs. Inspired by I'd say. I doubt they set out to copy it. Well there are lots of songs that sound similar by accident. Particularly riffs In this case, not by accident. GEORGE 1987: "At the time, 'Alb...

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I haven't mentioned Owen Jones for a while, and I don't rely on him. I just think he puts points across well sometimes. The last video I linked to was from the ICJ. My arguments aren't one-dimensional and I have in any case explained why I have focused more on criticising Israel. You "play the...

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But probably not whilst Benni is still in charge He's an incurable disease. It's unbelievable how much Bibi just openly shows he cares much more about his political position than about the country he "leads" during crisis. Main problem is that he has begun to genuinely believe the shit hi...

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I get where you're coming from, we probably do agree on most stuff. But I just find some of your arguements way too one dimensional. Also, there are quite a lot reliable sources to justify your position, but you seem to go back time and time again to some demagogue who seems to extract his knowledge...

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I think it's best described as a clear call for the destruction of the state of Israel. Either just a "soft" destruction of the regime, or outright ethnic cleansing, doesn't matter. Making out new complicated meanings to defend idiots? I pass. Would a single secular state in the region wi...

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I think it's best described as a clear call for the destruction of the state of Israel. Either just a "soft" destruction of the regime, or outright ethnic cleansing, doesn't matter.

Making out new complicated meanings to defend idiots? I pass.

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