Wow and that round was fairly trivial. I guess computer algorithms don't try 100x9 first and work from there.Edwin Mead wrote:I managed to beat the max score in round 3 of this game.
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It's a bug (now fixed) in the peripheral code rather than the solver itself; if you look at this and the other game where it happened (see Bug Reports), in both cases it was caused by a bot getting an inexact solution and then passing that to the arithmetician, which isn't supposed to happen.Kirk Bevins wrote:Wow and that round was fairly trivial. I guess computer algorithms don't try 100x9 first and work from there.Edwin Mead wrote:I managed to beat the max score in round 3 of this game.
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I see. I played Prime in bullet numbers yesterday, and found that Carol was beatable in at least 7 of the 20 games. So I did what any right-minded person would do. I challenged Rex to a normal-time numbers attack. I've not finished the game yet, but needless to say, I ain't gonna win it.Charlie Reams wrote:It's a bug (now fixed) in the peripheral code rather than the solver itself; if you look at this and the other game where it happened (see Bug Reports), in both cases it was caused by a bot getting an inexact solution and then passing that to the arithmetician, which isn't supposed to happen.Kirk Bevins wrote:Wow and that round was fairly trivial. I guess computer algorithms don't try 100x9 first and work from there.Edwin Mead wrote:I managed to beat the max score in round 3 of this game.
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It wouldn't work against Rex because, even if the arithmetician accidentally "intercepts" his solution, it'll be the optimal solution anyway.Gavin Chipper wrote: I see. I played Prime in bullet numbers yesterday, and found that Carol was beatable in at least 7 of the 20 games. So I did what any right-minded person would do. I challenged Rex to a normal-time numbers attack. I've not finished the game yet, but needless to say, I ain't gonna win it.
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Do you use that optimisation in general? i.e. if the bot gets the solution spot on, do you still have the arithmetician recalculate a solution or do you use the bots'? At the same time, for hyper games why not mirror a human player's solution if it is more accurate than the arithmetician's?Charlie Reams wrote:It wouldn't work against Rex because, even if the arithmetician accidentally "intercepts" his solution, it'll be the optimal solution anyway.Gavin Chipper wrote: I see. I played Prime in bullet numbers yesterday, and found that Carol was beatable in at least 7 of the 20 games. So I did what any right-minded person would do. I challenged Rex to a normal-time numbers attack. I've not finished the game yet, but needless to say, I ain't gonna win it.
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Yeah - at the time I thought it might have just been that Apterous had some problem solving games in general, so challenging Rex at that point was the only option open to me.Charlie Reams wrote:It wouldn't work against Rex because, even if the arithmetician accidentally "intercepts" his solution, it'll be the optimal solution anyway.Gavin Chipper wrote: I see. I played Prime in bullet numbers yesterday, and found that Carol was beatable in at least 7 of the 20 games. So I did what any right-minded person would do. I challenged Rex to a normal-time numbers attack. I've not finished the game yet, but needless to say, I ain't gonna win it.
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In hyper I've found that the Carol/Rachel and Rex can each get it when the other doesn't (unless it's changed recently).Simon Myers wrote:Do you use that optimisation in general? i.e. if the bot gets the solution spot on, do you still have the arithmetician recalculate a solution or do you use the bots'? At the same time, for hyper games why not mirror a human player's solution if it is more accurate than the arithmetician's?
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It has, but that can still happen occasionally.Gavin Chipper wrote:In hyper I've found that the Carol/Rachel and Rex can each get it when the other doesn't (unless it's changed recently).Simon Myers wrote:Do you use that optimisation in general? i.e. if the bot gets the solution spot on, do you still have the arithmetician recalculate a solution or do you use the bots'? At the same time, for hyper games why not mirror a human player's solution if it is more accurate than the arithmetician's?
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Not too far off with this one:- Max of 100Dinos Sfyris wrote:Another low max of 102 Notably low winning score as well due to many disallowed words!Chris Davies wrote:A new record the the lowest max in a 15 rounder, 99 points.
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During this game I was thinking that a better player would have got a max game, but then the ludicrous conundrum came up.
Edit: Wrong topic.
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Haha - that's not the only way of doing it though.Ben Wilson wrote:Bugger THAT for a game of soliders!
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Can anyone say Darren? Also brag for a 14-maxer and scrag for botching the overall max.
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I thought this was quite funny, considering Al Murray was the DC guest.
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Surprised you missed round 8! That probably belongs in the hardest Omelette round thread
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I think Henry might have some sort of nightmare after not realising that the letters in Round 4 & 7 were the same!
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Whilst on one of my pencil-fishing missions, I played this CSW Letters Attack where I was able to achieve an unusual feat of securing two pencils for two darrenic maximums in the same game. Not so unusual in itself, you might think, until I point out that one of those darrenic maximums was the plural of the other... ZINCATES and ZINCATE.
Incidentally, both words are CSW only, so don't go trying them in ODE play.
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Ryan got 3 pencils in a row in this game then buzzed in and made an animal noise for the conundrum
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Nope. In fact QQ is a valid Omeletteundrum, so apterous was clearly feeling merciful that day. Couldn't think of any other 2-letter ones but others may exist.Ben Wilson wrote:IS this the shortest ever Omeletteundrum?
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XX would be, but it's not in the current conundrum list IIRC.Charlie Reams wrote:Nope. In fact QQ is a valid Omeletteundrum, so apterous was clearly feeling merciful that day. Couldn't think of any other 2-letter ones but others may exist.Ben Wilson wrote:IS this the shortest ever Omeletteundrum?
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There are two nine letter words using XX, one of them is a plural. You can't set XX as an Omeletteundrum, because it has two answers, even if one is a plural. You wouldn't say SEATMINES is a valid conundrum now, would you?Simon Myers wrote:XX would be, but it's not in the current conundrum list IIRC.Charlie Reams wrote:Nope. In fact QQ is a valid Omeletteundrum, so apterous was clearly feeling merciful that day. Couldn't think of any other 2-letter ones but others may exist.Ben Wilson wrote:IS this the shortest ever Omeletteundrum?
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A fair point I hadn't really considered. A shame though, as JQ would be discounted for the same reason.JackHurst wrote:There are two nine letter words using XX, one of them is a plural. You can't set XX as an Omeletteundrum, because it has two answers, even if one is a plural. You wouldn't say SEATMINES is a valid conundrum now, would you?Simon Myers wrote:XX would be, but it's not in the current conundrum list IIRC.
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In Round 13, you mean?Eoin Monaghan wrote:http://apterous.org/viewgame.php?key=72 ... 1135788368
The 9 here was almost spelt out.
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This is arguably worse.Eoin Monaghan wrote:http://apterous.org/viewgame.php?key=72 ... 1135788368
The 9 here was almost spelt out.
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Scrag-worthy too, but whilst I know it's Touchdown and thus harder, I'd've probably only got about 5 of these if they were presented as normal conundrums!
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Just noticed that Prune has declared EOIN 4 times.
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Charlie, you'd better be ready to extend that table of pencils.
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Can anyone spot what is unique about this game?
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For sure!Charlie Reams wrote:Can anyone spot what is unique about this game?
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Clue?Charlie Reams wrote:Can anyone spot what is unique about this game?
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If I had to guess I'd say the the difference between the amount of maxes the winning player and the losing player got were at their highest- in favour of the losing player.Charlie Reams wrote:Can anyone spot what is unique about this game?
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Yep! Mark had 5 more maxes than John but still lost. Possible new Statland page?Ben Wilson wrote:If I had to guess I'd say the the difference between the amount of maxes the winning player and the losing player got were at their highest- in favour of the losing player.Charlie Reams wrote:Can anyone spot what is unique about this game?
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Mount Conundrum game. Round 18, nearly answered VISCOUSLY but realised it was VICIOUSLY. Then round 19...
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Just one letter different yet the hardness increases fivefold. Interesting.Graeme Cole wrote:Mount Conundrum game. Round 18, nearly answered VISCOUSLY but realised it was VICIOUSLY. Then round 19...
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Similar to ELECTION really.Kirk Bevins wrote:Just one letter different yet the hardness increases fivefold. Interesting.Graeme Cole wrote:Mount Conundrum game. Round 18, nearly answered VISCOUSLY but realised it was VICIOUSLY. Then round 19...
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Haha, brilliant!Kai Laddiman wrote:Similar to ELECTION really.Kirk Bevins wrote:Just one letter different yet the hardness increases fivefold. Interesting.Graeme Cole wrote:Mount Conundrum game. Round 18, nearly answered VISCOUSLY but realised it was VICIOUSLY. Then round 19...
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I liked the wrong oneKirk Bevins wrote:Just one letter different yet the hardness increases fivefold. Interesting.Graeme Cole wrote:Mount Conundrum game. Round 18, nearly answered VISCOUSLY but realised it was VICIOUSLY. Then round 19...
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You can Unlike but apparently it's broken in the crappy skin, or something.Ian Volante wrote:I liked the wrong oneKirk Bevins wrote:Just one letter different yet the hardness increases fivefold. Interesting.Graeme Cole wrote:Mount Conundrum game. Round 18, nearly answered VISCOUSLY but realised it was VICIOUSLY. Then round 19...
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Don't think I'll lose too much sleep over it.Charlie Reams wrote:You can Unlike but apparently it's broken in the crappy skin, or something.Ian Volante wrote:I liked the wrong oneKirk Bevins wrote:
Just one letter different yet the hardness increases fivefold. Interesting.
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Neither will I, good man.Ian Volante wrote:
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bump for the bizarrely opposing darrens I managed http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=447221 in rounds 7 and 9 in this game
even weirder I'm probably sitting at about 3x the legal limit of alcohol right now and have no clue how I puller either of those spots out of my ass, let alone both of them -- note the total lack of ability before and after those
EDIT: though I'm a lot pissed about R2 and R11 being invalid -- for the former I figured that was common enough in at least political speech for recognisation, and the r11 if petabyte is good why not petabit?
even weirder I'm probably sitting at about 3x the legal limit of alcohol right now and have no clue how I puller either of those spots out of my ass, let alone both of them -- note the total lack of ability before and after those
EDIT: though I'm a lot pissed about R2 and R11 being invalid -- for the former I figured that was common enough in at least political speech for recognisation, and the r11 if petabyte is good why not petabit?
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Steve, are you an alcoholic?
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Well considering I think I can still pull 60+% max at 2 large even after I lose the ability to walk
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yea I'm probably an alchy, but because my mind reacts to alcohol in the weirdest way ever -- also I'm from the US so if you're playing me right after you wake up it's probably night here and I'm probably in one of many possible states of drunkenness -- and as such I have a weird berserker dispersal where I come up with ridiculous spots one round and get stumped by very easy ones the next
Yea I don't know either
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yea I'm probably an alchy, but because my mind reacts to alcohol in the weirdest way ever -- also I'm from the US so if you're playing me right after you wake up it's probably night here and I'm probably in one of many possible states of drunkenness -- and as such I have a weird berserker dispersal where I come up with ridiculous spots one round and get stumped by very easy ones the next
Yea I don't know either
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Ha, that explains a bit. Why the hell were you pissed at like 7am on a Tuesday morning, hopefully from the night before?Steve Balog wrote:also I'm from the US
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I just finished my Master's degree (not sure of the equivalent in Europe, it's 6 years after grade 12) like last week and have no real responsibilities yet, so yea drunk Apterous at 8 AM after a night out why not
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It is, but it's spelt PLEBEIANSSteve Balog wrote:bump for the bizarrely opposing darrens I managed http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=447221 in rounds 7 and 9 in this game
even weirder I'm probably sitting at about 3x the legal limit of alcohol right now and have no clue how I puller either of those spots out of my ass, let alone both of them -- note the total lack of ability before and after those
EDIT: though I'm a lot pissed about R2 and R11 being invalid -- for the former I figured that was common enough in at least political speech for recognisation, and the r11 if petabyte is good why not petabit?
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Whoops, guess my memory of civilisations wasn't quite as good as I thought. Thanks for clarifying that.
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Ok, I don't know why on earth this bothers me so much.
Playing a drunk 2 big numbers attack against Velvet. In two rounds, I get:
50 25 2 10 10 3 -> 160
50 25 3 2 3 9 -> 837
Guess which one (and only one) of these two I managed to get. Now guess which one (and only one) the bot got. I mean I see (50+25+(3x3x2))x9 now but come on, I mean that's not even what the bot did ffs
Playing a drunk 2 big numbers attack against Velvet. In two rounds, I get:
50 25 2 10 10 3 -> 160
50 25 3 2 3 9 -> 837
Guess which one (and only one) of these two I managed to get. Now guess which one (and only one) the bot got. I mean I see (50+25+(3x3x2))x9 now but come on, I mean that's not even what the bot did ffs
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She gets distracted easily.
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