Spoilers for Valentine’s Day 2025 (Series 91, Heat 30)
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Spoilers for Valentine’s Day 2025 (Series 91, Heat 30)
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Re: Spoilers for Valentine’s Day 2025 (Series 91, Heat 30)
No gunkiest in round 13 for some reason. GUNKY is in though.
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Re: Spoilers for Valentine’s Day 2025 (Series 91, Heat 30)
Two-syllable adjective ruleGavin Chipper wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2025 3:46 pm No gunkiest in round 13 for some reason. GUNKY is in though.
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Re: Spoilers for Valentine’s Day 2025 (Series 91, Heat 30)
That's why it's disallowed but not why it's not in the dictionary!Johnny Canuck wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2025 3:55 pmTwo-syllable adjective ruleGavin Chipper wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2025 3:46 pm No gunkiest in round 13 for some reason. GUNKY is in though.
(Yeah, I meant that most -IER, -IEST words are in but they seemingly arbitrarily exclude some.)
Re: Spoilers for Valentine’s Day 2025 (Series 91, Heat 30)
It depends on usage, I’m afraid!Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2025 4:57 pmThat's why it's disallowed but not why it's not in the dictionary!Johnny Canuck wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2025 3:55 pmTwo-syllable adjective ruleGavin Chipper wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2025 3:46 pm No gunkiest in round 13 for some reason. GUNKY is in though.
(Yeah, I meant that most -IER, -IEST words are in but they seemingly arbitrarily exclude some.)
If it had been declared though, I reckon Susie would have asked the OUP to include these inflections.
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Re: Spoilers for Valentine’s Day 2025 (Series 91, Heat 30)
There's a rather fine line between PRALINES (praline chocolates) being valid, and NOUGATS x not.
Re: Spoilers for Valentine’s Day 2025 (Series 91, Heat 30)
Agree, and indeed the dictionary says so as indicated by [COUNT NOUN] in the ‘praline’ page and this not being the case for ‘nougat’.Philip Wilson wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 8:34 am There's a rather fine line between PRALINES (praline chocolates) being valid, and NOUGATS x not.
This is why some regular fans are calling for the restaurant rule to be scrapped as it appears to overrule foods which are only given as an uncountable mass noun. After all, the dictionary chosen is about English as it is used.
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Re: Spoilers for Valentine’s Day 2025 (Series 91, Heat 30)
Accepted that in both cases the validity for Countdown was true to the dictionary chosen, but not certain that there can be that much difference between "Oi, you've eaten all the pralines!" and "Oi, you've eaten all the nougats!"Philip A wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 8:58 amAgree, and indeed the dictionary says so as indicated by [COUNT NOUN] in the ‘praline’ page and this not being the case for ‘nougat’.Philip Wilson wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 8:34 am There's a rather fine line between PRALINES (praline chocolates) being valid, and NOUGATS x not.
This is why some regular fans are calling for the restaurant rule to be scrapped as it appears to overrule foods which are only given as an uncountable mass noun. After all, the dictionary chosen is about English as it is used.
Having said that I'm personally in favour of going by the dictionary rather than the 'restaurant rule'.
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Re: Spoilers for Valentine’s Day 2025 (Series 91, Heat 30)
It makes much more sense to just go with the dictionary than invent these extra arbitrary subjective rules. But let's be clear, the dictionary is often way off the mark when it comes to usage.Philip A wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 8:58 amAgree, and indeed the dictionary says so as indicated by [COUNT NOUN] in the ‘praline’ page and this not being the case for ‘nougat’.Philip Wilson wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 8:34 am There's a rather fine line between PRALINES (praline chocolates) being valid, and NOUGATS x not.
This is why some regular fans are calling for the restaurant rule to be scrapped as it appears to overrule foods which are only given as an uncountable mass noun. After all, the dictionary chosen is about English as it is used.