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It might be a stupid question, but where does one acquire Countmax from?
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There's a link from http://www.apterous.org/cdb/recapwriter.php (when the site comes back up.) And it's not a stupid question, although Paul did ask the same thing fairly recently.
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I think the grammar was stupid.
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Has VERONALS been taken out of the dictionary, I played a classic game against Harvey Freeman and 'beat' 'him' with VERONALS only to have it disallowed.
If you cut a gandiseeg in half, do you get two gandiseegs or two halves of a gandiseeg?
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It lists VERONAL as a noun, so assume it would've been there.Martin Gardner wrote:Has VERONALS been taken out of the dictionary, I played a classic game against Harvey Freeman and 'beat' 'him' with VERONALS only to have it disallowed.
On the subject of plurals, Susie allowed FENNELS today, which I didn't think was in.
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It does - but it's another name for BARBITONE which is a mass noun so I don't think they'd allow the plural. The reason I'm being cautious is the same thing occurs with OPALINE (a noun, but its meaning is Milk-Glass and upon checking Milk-Glass it is a mass noun). OPALINES has been disallowed on the show for this very reason, however, I think it was allowed at one point. I don't know - depends how nice you are to Susie before recording.Joseph Bolas wrote:It lists VERONAL as a noun, so assume it would've been there.Martin Gardner wrote:Has VERONALS been taken out of the dictionary, I played a classic game against Harvey Freeman and 'beat' 'him' with VERONALS only to have it disallowed.
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It wouldn't let me have PLIOSAURS there, is that an error?
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Checked the dictionary and PLIOSAUR is not a mass noun, so it should be there.David O'Donnell wrote:It wouldn't let me have PLIOSAURS there, is that an error?
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You sure the letters were there? PLIOSAURS is in countmax.David O'Donnell wrote:It wouldn't let me have PLIOSAURS there, is that an error?
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It was on Countgen, I probably goofed!Kirk Bevins wrote:You sure the letters were there? PLIOSAURS is in countmax.David O'Donnell wrote:It wouldn't let me have PLIOSAURS there, is that an error?
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I seem to recall DC offering VERONALS before, perhaps I'm getting confused because it's permitted in Scrabble.Kirk Bevins wrote:It does - but it's another name for BARBITONE which is a mass noun so I don't think they'd allow the plural. The reason I'm being cautious is the same thing occurs with OPALINE (a noun, but its meaning is Milk-Glass and upon checking Milk-Glass it is a mass noun). OPALINES has been disallowed on the show for this very reason, however, I think it was allowed at one point. I don't know - depends how nice you are to Susie before recording.Joseph Bolas wrote:It lists VERONAL as a noun, so assume it would've been there.Martin Gardner wrote:Has VERONALS been taken out of the dictionary, I played a classic game against Harvey Freeman and 'beat' 'him' with VERONALS only to have it disallowed.
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VERONAL is just listed as "n. a sedative drug, a derivative of barbituric acid" in COD9 so there would have been no reason to disallow VERONALS according to that dictionary. The joys of a book without the mass noun tag...
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Memory can play tricks, but before the NODE words like RAIMENTS and BUTANES were surely regularly disallowed even though the dictionary didn't specifically forbid them. Having mass nouns specified was a big help to DC. Just a shame the OED made such a botch of it.
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Lookin at this game and the word Ben Pugh got in round 13:
http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=9527
Apparently this is the max according to countmax. Not so - KATSINAM is OK for 8 and so was surprised to see it not mentioned. I'm not sure how this was overlooked.
http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=9527
Apparently this is the max according to countmax. Not so - KATSINAM is OK for 8 and so was surprised to see it not mentioned. I'm not sure how this was overlooked.
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HOW DO YOU KNOW THESE WORDS!!!???Kirk Bevins wrote:Apparently this is the max according to countmax. Not so - KATSINAM is OK for 8 and so was surprised to see it not mentioned.
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That's obvious. KATSINAM: a variant spelling of CATSINAM, which is a shortening of CATSINAMBUSH, when you use cats as bait. Not that hard.Dinos Sfyris wrote:HOW DO YOU KNOW THESE WORDS!!!???Kirk Bevins wrote:Apparently this is the max according to countmax. Not so - KATSINAM is OK for 8 and so was surprised to see it not mentioned.
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Practice my dear friend. I've learnt loads on apterous (thanks, Charlie) and I learnt KATSINA. As it was new to me I checked it up in ODE2r to see if it could help me memorise it and then I found KATSINAM. Bit like finding TARIQAS and checking it up and noting it can be spelt TARIQATS so that is now also lodged in the brain.Dinos Sfyris wrote:HOW DO YOU KNOW THESE WORDS!!!???Kirk Bevins wrote:Apparently this is the max according to countmax. Not so - KATSINAM is OK for 8 and so was surprised to see it not mentioned.
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Not technically a CountMax error, but for lack of a better place to post the conundrum NEIGHBORHOOD, presumably an American spelling, came up in a hypernundrum attack.
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Jono pointed out yesterday that GROUNDEST should probably be in, since GROUND has three adjectival senses.
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I'm not sure about 'groundest', but Paul Howe and I think that 'mattest' should be in. It's a one-syllable adjective, and it sort of sounds right. The mattest finish.
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Agreed.Richard Brittain wrote:I'm not sure about 'groundest', but Paul Howe and I think that 'mattest' should be in. It's a one-syllable adjective, and it sort of sounds right. The mattest finish.
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FANDOM is listed as a noun and so FANDOMS should be allowed but I've just had it disallowed on apterous.
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I was considering NAILERY recently. I think NAILERY is listed under NAILER, and it doesn't specify that the plural is NAILERIES? It's another one of those horrible ones, but shouldn't the plural just be NAILERYS under the actual Countdown rules? Hmm...Kirk Bevins wrote:FANDOM is listed as a noun and so FANDOMS should be allowed but I've just had it disallowed on apterous.
If you cut a gandiseeg in half, do you get two gandiseegs or two halves of a gandiseeg?
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I thought the rules were basically to follow the dictionary guidelines on plurals, which for words ending in -Y is that it will be specified. So I don't think there is a proper answer.Martin Gardner wrote:I was considering NAILERY recently. I think NAILERY is listed under NAILER, and it doesn't specify that the plural is NAILERIES? It's another one of those horrible ones, but shouldn't the plural just be NAILERYS under the actual Countdown rules? Hmm...Kirk Bevins wrote:FANDOM is listed as a noun and so FANDOMS should be allowed but I've just had it disallowed on apterous.
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How about BENTER and BENTEST? Ugly, I know, but BENT is a one syllable adjective, and as such ought to be allowed the -ER and -EST extensions.
BENTER was available on one of the programmes in the last few days. Although beaten by DC, it would have scored against the contestants.
BENTER was available on one of the programmes in the last few days. Although beaten by DC, it would have scored against the contestants.
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Is BENT listed as an adjective or just as a past participle?Howard Somerset wrote:How about BENTER and BENTEST? Ugly, I know, but BENT is a one syllable adjective, and as such ought to be allowed the -ER and -EST extensions.
BENTER was available on one of the programmes in the last few days. Although beaten by DC, it would have scored against the contestants.
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It's listed as both.Charlie Reams wrote:Is BENT listed as an adjective or just as a past participle?Howard Somerset wrote:How about BENTER and BENTEST? Ugly, I know, but BENT is a one syllable adjective, and as such ought to be allowed the -ER and -EST extensions.
BENTER was available on one of the programmes in the last few days. Although beaten by DC, it would have scored against the contestants.
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I did think about that mention as a past participle of BEND, but as Frank says, it's listed as an adjective too. So by the usual reasoning, BENTER should be valid.
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Agreed, it should be allowed. BENTEST sounds quite realistic although BENTER seems weird.
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Can't remember if I've flagged this up before but EIRENICS? EIRENIC is listed as an adjective but it says (also IRENIC). Upon looking at IRENIC it lists EIRENIC as an alternative and indeed it is an adjective. The only sense where an S can be pluralised, it clearly states IRENICS in brackets. This would hint to me that EIRENICS should be disallowed.
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MEOWING was disallowed as a US spelling in one of Junaid's games round 6. However, CountMax does allow it.
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The same with COZIEST^ too.Howard Somerset wrote:MEOWING was disallowed as a US spelling in one of Junaid's games round 6. However, CountMax does allow it.
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I recently had NUTRIAS disallowed. I can't see any sign in the dictionary that NUTRIA shouldn't be pluralised with an S, so why's it not in?
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It's listed as a mass noun...Ian Volante wrote:I recently had NUTRIAS disallowed. I can't see any sign in the dictionary that NUTRIA shouldn't be pluralised with an S, so why's it not in?
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http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=13911
In R4 of this game FAJITA was disallowed, but FAJITAS was suggested as an acceptable beater. I was going to try FAJITAS but was worried it might be invalid, since foreign food pluralised weirdly.
In R4 of this game FAJITA was disallowed, but FAJITAS was suggested as an acceptable beater. I was going to try FAJITAS but was worried it might be invalid, since foreign food pluralised weirdly.
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Beat me to it.Ben Hunter wrote:http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=13911
In R4 of this game FAJITA was disallowed, but FAJITAS was suggested as an acceptable beater.
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I'm too fast for your ass, man.Kai Laddiman wrote:Beat me to it.Ben Hunter wrote:http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=13911
In R4 of this game FAJITA was disallowed, but FAJITAS was suggested as an acceptable beater.
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FAJITAS is like ENTRAILS; there's no singular.Ben Hunter wrote:http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=13911
In R4 of this game FAJITA was disallowed, but FAJITAS was suggested as an acceptable beater. I was going to try FAJITAS but was worried it might be invalid, since foreign food pluralised weirdly.
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Am I failing to read the dictionary properly? I checked for thatFrank Rodolf wrote:It's listed as a mass noun...Ian Volante wrote:I recently had NUTRIAS disallowed. I can't see any sign in the dictionary that NUTRIA shouldn't be pluralised with an S, so why's it not in?
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BIOSPHERES was disallowed in one of my games. BIOSPHERE is not listed as a mass noun.
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The Goatdown wordlist is not as accurate as the standard wordlist.Kai Laddiman wrote:BIOSPHERES was disallowed in one of my games. BIOSPHERE is not listed as a mass noun.
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He means HyperCountdown.David O'Donnell wrote:The Goatdown wordlist is not as accurate as the standard wordlist.Kai Laddiman wrote:BIOSPHERES was disallowed in one of my games. BIOSPHERE is not listed as a mass noun.
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I am really stressed because STRESSY isn't allowed. Why not?
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Hmm CARLING is accepted on apterous and I've checked my ODE2r and I can't find it under CARL or CARLING or even a small CAR. Where is it or is it an error?
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It is not even listed with the second definition of CARLINE, of which it would have been an alternative - I am tempted to say it is indeed an error.Kirk Bevins wrote:Hmm CARLING is accepted on apterous and I've checked my ODE2r and I can't find it under CARL or CARLING or even a small CAR. Where is it or is it an error?
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Hmm.... it's in CorbyDic as well, which suggests that it was found somewhere on the HTML pages of the OED website, which I no longer have access to. Alternate spelling of something maybe with no signpost?Frank Rodolf wrote:It is not even listed with the second definition of CARLINE, of which it would have been an alternative - I am tempted to say it is indeed an error.Kirk Bevins wrote:Hmm CARLING is accepted on apterous and I've checked my ODE2r and I can't find it under CARL or CARLING or even a small CAR. Where is it or is it an error?
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Carling
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One of the short timbers running fore and aft that connect the transverse beams supporting the deck of a ship.
Whether it's allowed is another matter however.
n.
One of the short timbers running fore and aft that connect the transverse beams supporting the deck of a ship.
Whether it's allowed is another matter however.
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Probably because STRESS isn't listed as an adjective, only as a noun or verb.Kai Laddiman wrote:I am really stressed because STRESSY isn't allowed. Why not?
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surely MOOD (from MOODY) isn't an adjective either?Howard Somerset wrote:Probably because STRESS isn't listed as an adjective, only as a noun or verb.Kai Laddiman wrote:I am really stressed because STRESSY isn't allowed. Why not?
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Not a Countmax error but did anybody who has the Countdown calendar notice that the conundrum yesterday, MAJORSHIP, isn't in the ODE? Oops!
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But MOODY is listed in its own right.Matt Morrison wrote:surely MOOD (from MOODY) isn't an adjective either?Howard Somerset wrote:Probably because STRESS isn't listed as an adjective, only as a noun or verb.Kai Laddiman wrote:I am really stressed because STRESSY isn't allowed. Why not?
Having got brain into gear, ignore my previous post in this thread; I'd confused adding -Y with turning -Y into -IER and -IEST.
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I think it might have been mentioned before (can't be arsed to check) but I had MATTEST disallowed in the duel the other day, which I wasn't convinced with. I think I was the only one to go for it, but some went for MATTIEST (also disallowed but that didn't surprise me).
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http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=3675
Pouter was disallowed in this one (and thank you Charlie for choosing my best game to kick my arse in :p) despite the fact it's in the ODE2r.
Pouter was disallowed in this one (and thank you Charlie for choosing my best game to kick my arse in :p) despite the fact it's in the ODE2r.
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Cus there is no E, you muppet.Ben Wilson wrote:http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=3675
Pouter was disallowed in this one (and thank you Charlie for choosing my best game to kick my arse in :p) despite the fact it's in the ODE2r.
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It was listed as a variation of CARLINE (2) in the ODE 2 (as was carlin), removed for the ODE2r. The biographical entry for Will Carling was also removed, on a completely useless note.Ian Volante wrote:Carling
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One of the short timbers running fore and aft that connect the transverse beams supporting the deck of a ship.
Whether it's allowed is another matter however.
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In fairness I generously let you come back from 99-32 to 99-60.Ben Wilson wrote:http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=3675
Pouter was disallowed in this one (and thank you Charlie for choosing my best game to kick my arse in :p) despite the fact it's in the ODE2r.
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Cock-up in the recap then. :p (which admittedly I wrote)Kirk Bevins wrote:Cus there is no E, you muppet.Ben Wilson wrote:http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=3675
Pouter was disallowed in this one (and thank you Charlie for choosing my best game to kick my arse in :p) despite the fact it's in the ODE2r.
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TRIFECTAS should be in (hence the bug with CRAFTIEST showing up as a conundrum in Apterous.)
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I believe FAUXER and FAUXEST are missing.
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After seeing it disallowed in quite a few games recently on Apterous, MOHAIRS yay or nay? It's listed as a fabric, so logically should be allowed the plural? Plus the entry strongly suggests that their are different types of mohair.