October's Daily Duel
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After two months as "Daily Duel" champ I feel I would like to now step aside and let some of these new young pretenders have their day.
I am therefore announcing my retirement, undefeated, from "competitive" Daily Duelling. I'll still do it every day, but it won't sort of "count", or whatever.
Unless Paul and (especially) Conor can assure me that they will only be completing approximately 15% of next month's Duels
I am therefore announcing my retirement, undefeated, from "competitive" Daily Duelling. I'll still do it every day, but it won't sort of "count", or whatever.
Unless Paul and (especially) Conor can assure me that they will only be completing approximately 15% of next month's Duels
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Numbers games seem underrepresented in duels.
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I reckon I'd have won this month if the scoring system hadn't changed half way throughJon Corby wrote:After two months as "Daily Duel" champ I feel I would like to now step aside and let some of these new young pretenders have their day.
I am therefore announcing my retirement, undefeated, from "competitive" Daily Duelling. I'll still do it every day, but it won't sort of "count", or whatever.
Unless Paul and (especially) Conor can assure me that they will only be completing approximately 15% of next month's Duels
A fresh start in October, and then Conor turns up
Also I won't be here this weekend so will miss 2 then
And I had a perfectly good 6 disallowed today which I'll be complaining about on the Countmax errors thread later
In short, I'm feeling very aggrieved
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Maybe since some quality players cant play the duel every single day, you could also do an average score table or something. Although it might not be a very good average, with the numb of attempters being different each day and all. Just an idea.
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Something like dropping your 5 worst scores might be better as then you always have an incentive to play (with an average someone could play once and win the monthly league). However, despite the avalanche of disgruntled dudes in my previous post, I'm not that bothered.Dinos Sfyris wrote:Maybe since some quality players cant play the duel every single day, you could also do an average score table or something. Although it might not be a very good average, with the numb of attempters being different each day and all. Just an idea.
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This is a pretty good idea.Paul Howe wrote:Something like dropping your 5 worst scores might be better as then you always have an incentive to play (with an average someone could play once and win the monthly league). However, despite the avalanche of disgruntled dudes in my previous post, I'm not that bothered.
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Or you could have different sized gaps between the positions, rather than one point all the way. With one-point gaps all the way, out of a month, I'd say you'd need to knock out your worst 10 or so.Charlie Reams wrote:This is a pretty good idea.Paul Howe wrote:Something like dropping your 5 worst scores might be better as then you always have an incentive to play (with an average someone could play once and win the monthly league). However, despite the avalanche of disgruntled dudes in my previous post, I'm not that bothered.
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Weird thing happened to me in the Daily Duel on Thursday this week.
TYPED in Judgement for conundrum, was not allowed, then answer was revealed as Judgement.
The game said JUGDMENT is not the right answer, and carried on, but in the text box where i typed the answer, it was clearly written down as JUDGEMENT. The mystery of the vanishing E is something i can't figure out.
TYPED in Judgement for conundrum, was not allowed, then answer was revealed as Judgement.
The game said JUGDMENT is not the right answer, and carried on, but in the text box where i typed the answer, it was clearly written down as JUDGEMENT. The mystery of the vanishing E is something i can't figure out.
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Just looked at the results of yesterday's duel - I was pretty sure I was going to finish last so I wasn't surprised. Had some terrible rounds - a lot of 0s. The very first duel I did I came third (I think was a bit lucky getting SUBLIMATE) and could even have won without the zero round on he last letters game and I've not reached those heights since.
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If there is ever a situation where Apterous is down all day (from midnight to midnight), meaning noone can partake in the duel, does that mean then that the day after, there will be 2 duels?
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Congrats to Jim on what I believe is his first win!
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Well done Jim. Who else saw SEAMINESS but laughed internally at the idea of submitting it as a real answer?
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Cheers! First win, and first time I've been anywhere near a win, too
I knew I'd done pretty well but am slightly amazed at the margin of victory, as I also knew I'd missed a couple of gettable ones. I thought I'd be about 3rd or 4th, maybe 2nd, but not for a minute 1st. I didn't think SEAMINESS was that risky, but fortunately for me, a lot of you must have done
I knew I'd done pretty well but am slightly amazed at the margin of victory, as I also knew I'd missed a couple of gettable ones. I thought I'd be about 3rd or 4th, maybe 2nd, but not for a minute 1st. I didn't think SEAMINESS was that risky, but fortunately for me, a lot of you must have done
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Going back to this, I think going up from one point in ones doesn't work that well. Finishing 1st out of 20 is obviously better than 8th out of 27. Using the logic from the "Heights" thread in the off-topic forum, 1st out of 20 makes you a "1 in 21" player, whereas 8th out of 27 makes you a "8 in 28" player. The scores could reflect this.Gavin Chipper wrote:Or you could have different sized gaps between the positions, rather than one point all the way. With one-point gaps all the way, out of a month, I'd say you'd need to knock out your worst 10 or so.Charlie Reams wrote:This is a pretty good idea.Paul Howe wrote:Something like dropping your 5 worst scores might be better as then you always have an incentive to play (with an average someone could play once and win the monthly league). However, despite the avalanche of disgruntled dudes in my previous post, I'm not that bothered.
My pseudo-logical rambling method would be to add one to the number of players and your score would be that number over your finishing position. 9th out of 26 would mean 27/9=3 points. There would be weird fractions but a computer can keep track of them easily enough.
As for draws, instead of simply giving everyone the higher score, I would split the points between them. 1st and 2nd out of 19 would normally (under my system) get 20 and 10 points so we could give them 15 each. Or we could say they finished 1.5th and give them 13.333.
Also could only count 20 or so scores in a month as people are likely to miss some, and it would reward good play rather than consistency.
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How come today's daily duel only had 2 vowels per round? Was that a bug?
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No, I think this was meant to happen.Kirk Bevins wrote:How come today's daily duel only had 2 vowels per round? Was that a bug?
Don't forget Kirk, if you go back to the Duel on the 29th September, all the letter selections had 6 vowels in them
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Yep. I figure if you can have variants with 12 letters or rounds of 10 seconds then the 6C/3V rule didn't seem too sacred.
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It's a good idea Charlie. It makes the rounds more challenging and also you may learn some good vowel-heavy words from the selectionsCharlie Reams wrote:Yep. I figure if you can have variants with 12 letters or rounds of 10 seconds then the 6C/3V rule didn't seem too sacred.
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Think there might be an error with todays (that is Friday's) Daily Duel. Although you cant view it yet its max scoring only, and in 1 round (round 4 I think) I got a 7 where 8s were available but it still gave me a point. Not that I'm complaining cause due to that I got all 9 maxes
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Actually it's not max scoring only, it's 'only winners score', which means all you have to do to score the point is beat your opponent's declaration.
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Lol, it's going to be tight at the top, the Duellist isn't exactly a stern opponent. I got 9/9 but am now wondering if I actually got all the maxes.Ben Wilson wrote:Actually it's not max scoring only, it's 'only winners score', which means all you have to do to score the point is beat your opponent's declaration.
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Oops. Oh well, can't do much about it now.
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Heh, thanks for the heads-up guys, I'd have hated to have taken a risk on a word when I do this later and lost a pointPaul Howe wrote:Lol, it's going to be tight at the top, the Duellist isn't exactly a stern opponent. I got 9/9 but am now wondering if I actually got all the maxes.
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Looking at yesterday's results, I don't think I'll be playing another blind duel. I suspect some people missed the point and wrote stuff down anyway. Also there is the Bolas loophole which sort of makes a mockery of the blind variant anyway.
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You don't have to call it the Bolas Loophole, I was only pointing out a way that the letters could be unhidden.Gavin Chipper wrote:Looking at yesterday's results, I don't think I'll be playing another blind duel. I suspect some people missed the point and wrote stuff down anyway. Also there is the Bolas loophole which sort of makes a mockery of the blind variant anyway.
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I thought it would make you proud.Joseph Bolas wrote:You don't have to call it the Bolas Loophole, I was only pointing out a way that the letters could be unhidden.Gavin Chipper wrote:Looking at yesterday's results, I don't think I'll be playing another blind duel. I suspect some people missed the point and wrote stuff down anyway. Also there is the Bolas loophole which sort of makes a mockery of the blind variant anyway.
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As I'm an impulsive idiot, I rarely read the rules before playing and just charge on, so when the letters started disappearing yesterday I didn't know what the fuck was going on. Once I'd realised, though, I found it really good fun. I'd never tried it before and I probably won't play much more of it by choice, but having it as a possible variant in the Daily Duel is perfect.Gavin Chipper wrote:Looking at yesterday's results, I don't think I'll be playing another blind duel. I suspect some people missed the point and wrote stuff down anyway. Also there is the Bolas loophole which sort of makes a mockery of the blind variant anyway.
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I am probably a pedant for point that out, but I don't feel proud.Gavin Chipper wrote:I thought it would make you proud.Joseph Bolas wrote:You don't have to call it the Bolas Loophole, I was only pointing out a way that the letters could be unhidden.Gavin Chipper wrote:Looking at yesterday's results, I don't think I'll be playing another blind duel. I suspect some people missed the point and wrote stuff down anyway. Also there is the Bolas loophole which sort of makes a mockery of the blind variant anyway.
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I got 9 maxes out of 9 today, I assume this means loads of people will have 9/9 because you don't need a max to score the one point.
If you cut a gandiseeg in half, do you get two gandiseegs or two halves of a gandiseeg?
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I certainly didn't. What is the point of a blind variant if you're not going to play it "blind"?Gavin Chipper wrote:I suspect some people missed the point and wrote stuff down anyway.
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I loved yesterday's duel. More of that duel again pleaseMartin Gardner wrote:I got 9 maxes out of 9 today, I assume this means loads of people will have 9/9 because you don't need a max to score the one point.
I myself only got 7 maxes (missing OUTSIDES and IMPAIRED), but got the 9 points
I know I am joint first with 16 other people, but thats probably the only time I will come first in a duel
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the 9/9 duel seems a bit stupid to me.
i got all 9 maxes, but i get the same amount of points as people who got 7/8?
i got all 9 maxes, but i get the same amount of points as people who got 7/8?
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Well, I suppose I can see where you are coming from because people should get more points for getting all 9 maxes, compared to say myself who only got 7.Matt Coates wrote:the 9/9 duel seems a bit stupid to me.
i got all 9 maxes, but i get the same amount of points as people who got 7/8?
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I was just being bitter for being last by a long way.Kirk Bevins wrote:I certainly didn't. What is the point of a blind variant if you're not going to play it "blind"?Gavin Chipper wrote:I suspect some people missed the point and wrote stuff down anyway.
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ive just noticed i only got 8 maxes that round, so i dont feel too bitter.
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Oh yeah , you missed IMPERIALMatt Coates wrote:I've just noticed that I only got 8 maxes that round, so I don't feel too bitter.
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I was annoyed I fucked up today's duel. All those numbers games and I didn't get it together.
Also in the winner onlt scores duel where a million people tied for top, how come they got 28 points when there were 25 entrants? Normally they would get 25 wouldn't they? I still think you should use my scoring system.
Also in the winner onlt scores duel where a million people tied for top, how come they got 28 points when there were 25 entrants? Normally they would get 25 wouldn't they? I still think you should use my scoring system.
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And that was specifically in response to your request for more numbers game!Gavin Chipper wrote:I was annoyed I fucked up today's duel. All those numbers games and I didn't get it together.
Good question. I guess the scoring system needs some work.Also in the winner onlt scores duel where a million people tied for top, how come they got 28 points when there were 25 entrants? Normally they would get 25 wouldn't they? I still think you should use my scoring system.
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Thanks for that by the way.Charlie Reams wrote:And that was specifically in response to your request for more numbers game!Gavin Chipper wrote:I was annoyed I fucked up today's duel. All those numbers games and I didn't get it together.
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Could someone enlighten me as to what "Gevin rules" are before I screw up today's duel? Thanks.
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Nines count as 9 points as opposed to 18, and you only score at all in any round if you've voted for GevCountdown here.
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9 points for a 9.
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Cheers guys. Decided to screw it up anyway.
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Dan Vanniasingham wrote:Could someone enlighten me as to what "Gevin rules" are before I screw up today's duel? Thanks.
And yet there was no 9's , so if the rule was normal scoring, the outcome would've been the sameCharlie Reams wrote:9 points for a 9.
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I'm famous!Dan Vanniasingham wrote:Could someone enlighten me as to what "Gevin rules" are before I screw up today's duel? Thanks.
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I think that Charlie's gone to off to the finals, but, if not, or if anyone else knows if it can be fixed:
I was declining a challenge, and accidentally declined the duel instead. Can it be retrieved?
TIA hopefully,
Julie
I was declining a challenge, and accidentally declined the duel instead. Can it be retrieved?
TIA hopefully,
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Try logging out and in again, it might work.Julie T wrote:I think that Charlie's gone to off to the finals, but, if not, or if anyone else knows if it can be fixed:
I was declining a challenge, and accidentally declined the duel instead. Can it be retrieved?
TIA hopefully,
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Thanks,Ben, it worked!Ben Wilson wrote:Try logging out and in again, it might work.Julie T wrote:I think that Charlie's gone to off to the finals, but, if not, or if anyone else knows if it can be fixed:
I was declining a challenge, and accidentally declined the duel instead. Can it be retrieved?
TIA hopefully,
Julie
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I think the record for the most players in the duel was set yesterday, were 36 players partook in it
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Am just curious re latest Daily Duel (all conundrums).
How does someone manage to answer in 0.2 seconds?
GIven that you have to hit the first letter on the word on the keyboard correctly, its an amazingly quick reaction time. The key depression alone must take 0.1 second. Don't get me wrong, i'm not suggesting anything other untoward here, i just wondered if there is a method involved in answering so quickly. It seems almost superhuman.
All credit to them, but that IS bloody amazingly fast.
How does someone manage to answer in 0.2 seconds?
GIven that you have to hit the first letter on the word on the keyboard correctly, its an amazingly quick reaction time. The key depression alone must take 0.1 second. Don't get me wrong, i'm not suggesting anything other untoward here, i just wondered if there is a method involved in answering so quickly. It seems almost superhuman.
All credit to them, but that IS bloody amazingly fast.
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I posted to another thread regarding this. Yesterdays daily duel kept running slowly and crashing so some of us had to restart. Amazingly, they allowed you to start the duel from the start so you knew what the conundrum answers were going to be before they even came up, hence the 0.2 seconds. Bit of a farce really yesterday's duel.Damian E wrote:Am just curious re latest Daily Duel (all conundrums).
How does someone manage to answer in 0.2 seconds?
GIven that you have to hit the first letter on the word on the keyboard correctly, its an amazingly quick reaction time. The key depression alone must take 0.1 second. Don't get me wrong, i'm not suggesting anything other untoward here, i just wondered if there is a method involved in answering so quickly. It seems almost superhuman.
All credit to them, but that IS bloody amazingly fast.
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Ah thanks for that Kirk.
I tried practising earlier at answering as fast as possible. I simply pressed the letter D every time a conundrum started, whether there was one in the selection or not, and i managed to get a 0.2 second answer eventually, withouth of course getting the answer correct.
Makes sense now.
I tried practising earlier at answering as fast as possible. I simply pressed the letter D every time a conundrum started, whether there was one in the selection or not, and i managed to get a 0.2 second answer eventually, withouth of course getting the answer correct.
Makes sense now.
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Makes me quite happy that I managed to finish fifth without cheating. Not sure what went wrong yesterday but, as always, the result stands. Generally if you quit during the Duel then it won't let you replay so something must've gone wrong with that mechanism too.
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Do you want to know who you've drawn?
Do you want to know who you've drawn?
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I'm quite pleased that I got 5 out of the 20, even though that meant I was joint bottom.
BTW, is there any logic as to why I was ahead of Gevin? Was I faster overall, or is it random?
Conundrums are my weakest part of Countdown, and with only 10 seconds to answer on the duel, I considered not attempting it, but gave it a bash anyway.
BTW, is there any logic as to why I was ahead of Gevin? Was I faster overall, or is it random?
Conundrums are my weakest part of Countdown, and with only 10 seconds to answer on the duel, I considered not attempting it, but gave it a bash anyway.
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You weren't ahead of Gevin, you both came 24th and got 2 points.Julie T wrote:BTW, is there any logic as to why I was ahead of Gevin? Was I faster overall, or is it random?
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I think what Julie means, is why does her name appear above Gevin's in the list?Charlie Reams wrote:You weren't ahead of Gevin, you both came 24th and got 2 points.Julie T wrote:BTW, is there any logic as to why I was ahead of Gevin? Was I faster overall, or is it random?
If two people or more are tied, is there any logic to the order the names appear in the list?
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Nope.Joseph Bolas wrote:If two people or more are tied, is there any logic to the order the names appear in the list?
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Going by yesterday's duel, very well done to Dan Vanniasingham and James Hurrell for getting the conundrum ENCHILADA.
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Yes well done - a hard one. I had HACIENDA for a nice 8 but didn't know the nine. Turns out only S and L can be added to HACIENDA to make nines so easy to learn!Joseph Bolas wrote:Going by yesterday's duel, very well done to Dan Vanniasingham and James Hurrell for getting the conundrum ENCHILADA.