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As a bit of an extension to the 'most multitalented' and 'most multilingual' pages, can we have 'most [blank] by number of maxes' for the relevant 15 rounders?
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I'm trying to work out what word you deleted here. Shit?Ben Wilson wrote: 'most [blank] by number of maxes' for the relevant 15 rounders?
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I remember being politely reprimanded for doing this when I first started playing Apterous, so I just assumed it was an unwritten rule.Charlie Reams wrote:Hmm, would it? I do this all the time.Liam Tiernan wrote:If, for example I want to play Jojo, but he's already in a game it would be rude to issue a challenge.
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Anywhere near this!?Charlie Reams wrote:That's actually a nice idea.Graeme Cole wrote: An "offer draw" feature might work, though, whereby a tied game can be curtailed by mutual agreement. I can see that being useful in the more esoteric variants when, as in this case, two players get stuck in a never-ending stream of tie-break conundrums.
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I know this might sounds stupid, but when I click on "end round early", because the button is at the bottom of the box, I sometimes miss and lose the box from view and have to get it back again. So I was thinking maybe a bit of a border underneath it.
Also I think I've mentioned this before, but if you do maxes only in a numbers game, and you declare exactly it won't bother waiting for your solution if it deems the game to be impossible. This would make it useless on hyper.
Also I think I've mentioned this before, but if you do maxes only in a numbers game, and you declare exactly it won't bother waiting for your solution if it deems the game to be impossible. This would make it useless on hyper.
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Love the new per user ratings table. Excellent.
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Given Prune now imitates the player's numbers pick, can it be arranged so that the players gets first pick in all numbers attack-style games against him/it?
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A chat limit/time-out in the chat window to restrict spamming.
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Seems like Mute would cover this adequately.Ian Volante wrote:A chat limit/time-out in the chat window to restrict spamming.
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Aye, was just a special case yesterday of someone repeatedly doing it under different names, I was getting worn out by the three or four clicks in ten minutes or so that this entailed.Charlie Reams wrote:Seems like Mute would cover this adequately.Ian Volante wrote:A chat limit/time-out in the chat window to restrict spamming.
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There's a distinct lack of items received during rounds 5, 10 and 14 in standard variant. How about a special omelette item for using all six numbers when a simpler solution was possible? It could lead to some fun easy numbers game mess ups from item hunters. And liven up the kinds of numbers rounds where you have, say, a 6 and 100 and the solution is 600.
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Isn't it more likely that you'll end up getting the item by accident than on purpose?Mark James wrote:There's a distinct lack of items received during rounds 5, 10 and 14 in standard variant. How about a special omelette item for using all six numbers when a simpler solution was possible? It could lead to some fun easy numbers game mess ups from item hunters. And liven up the kinds of numbers rounds where you have, say, a 6 and 100 and the solution is 600.
What about:
A showboat: for maxing the round using more than one operation when only one operation was required.
A sigma: for solving a numbers game as exactly as possible using only addition.
A pie: the same, but for using only multiplication.
Maybe you could have something like an "omelette pie" for multiplying all six numbers together for the solution.
Sky-high solutions:
An oxygen mask: for having a number >= 1000 appear as an intermediate result in your working (unless immediately preceded by a multiplication and immediately followed by a division, because that'd be too easy ).
A spacesuit: the same, but for having a number >= 10000.
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These are great ideas.Graeme Cole wrote:What about:
A showboat: for maxing the round using more than one operation when only one operation was required.
A sigma: for solving a numbers game as exactly as possible using only addition.
A pie: the same, but for using only multiplication.
Maybe you could have something like an "omelette pie" for multiplying all six numbers together for the solution.
Sky-high solutions:
An oxygen mask: for having a number >= 1000 appear as an intermediate result in your working (unless immediately preceded by a multiplication and immediately followed by a division, because that'd be too easy ).
A spacesuit: the same, but for having a number >= 10000.
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Particularly the oxygen mask and spacesuit.Ben Hunter wrote:These are great ideas.Graeme Cole wrote:What about:
A showboat: for maxing the round using more than one operation when only one operation was required.
A sigma: for solving a numbers game as exactly as possible using only addition.
A pie: the same, but for using only multiplication.
Maybe you could have something like an "omelette pie" for multiplying all six numbers together for the solution.
Sky-high solutions:
An oxygen mask: for having a number >= 1000 appear as an intermediate result in your working (unless immediately preceded by a multiplication and immediately followed by a division, because that'd be too easy ).
A spacesuit: the same, but for having a number >= 10000.
Edit - also I was thinking another exception to the oxygen mask could be if you add then immediately take away. For example, you need 996 from 995, 9 and 8. By doing 995+9-8 you reach 1004, but it could be done 995+(9-8).
Edit 2 - But also if, for example, you multiply by 75 and divide by 50, this could be seen as legitimate because you can't do 75/50 first.
Edit 3 - would it make sense to hand out the oxygen mask and spacesuit only for maxes? Otherwise people might mess about with silly solutions that give a worse answer just to get one.
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Probably too in-jokey but: Change "end round early" to say "take a drink of water" (esp. on numbers games).
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Now that conundrums are graded for hardness, would it be a good idea to throw in all the remaining 9-letter words (that don't have anagrams or have some other reason for exclusion) for completeness? I'm assuming it hasn't already been done. I presume it wouldn't matter if there are more of a certain hardness because it can all be weighted accordingly.
Also, I still think the duel scoring should be based on the proportion of people you beat rather than absolute number.
Also, I still think the duel scoring should be based on the proportion of people you beat rather than absolute number.
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Isn't this also known as 'Nasty'? Though I agree some sort of item award wouldn't go amiss for spotting a nasty-only conundrum. 'Piece of neutronium' perhaps.Gavin Chipper wrote:Now that conundrums are graded for hardness, would it be a good idea to throw in all the remaining 9-letter words (that don't have anagrams or have some other reason for exclusion) for completeness? I'm assuming it hasn't already been done. I presume it wouldn't matter if there are more of a certain hardness because it can all be weighted accordingly.
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Is that what happens in the nasty variant then? OK.Ben Wilson wrote:Isn't this also known as 'Nasty'? Though I agree some sort of item award wouldn't go amiss for spotting a nasty-only conundrum. 'Piece of neutronium' perhaps.Gavin Chipper wrote:Now that conundrums are graded for hardness, would it be a good idea to throw in all the remaining 9-letter words (that don't have anagrams or have some other reason for exclusion) for completeness? I'm assuming it hasn't already been done. I presume it wouldn't matter if there are more of a certain hardness because it can all be weighted accordingly.
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Hahaha, that made me laugh, that's a really nice idea.Andrew Feist wrote:Probably too in-jokey but: Change "end round early" to say "take a drink of water" (esp. on numbers games).
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Not quite. Nasty includes ALL 9-letter words, including plurals. You're asking for just the normally-valid-for-conundrum 9s, of which all the new ones that haven't been considered suitable as conundrums previously would be graded 10, yes?Gavin Chipper wrote:Is that what happens in the nasty variant then? OK.Ben Wilson wrote:Isn't this also known as 'Nasty'? Though I agree some sort of item award wouldn't go amiss for spotting a nasty-only conundrum. 'Piece of neutronium' perhaps.Gavin Chipper wrote:Now that conundrums are graded for hardness, would it be a good idea to throw in all the remaining 9-letter words (that don't have anagrams or have some other reason for exclusion) for completeness? I'm assuming it hasn't already been done. I presume it wouldn't matter if there are more of a certain hardness because it can all be weighted accordingly.
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Yes. But I suppose given that they're all included in nasty anyway (as well as plurals) it's not as important because people can still come across them. But yes I still think that it would be good to have all the possible valid ones in the normal variant. We discussed the other day on Apterous about how it decides the hardness for a conundrum and I can't remember exactly how you specified it, but presumably if there are more of a particular hardness (say 10) then probabilities could be weighted so that a 10 is no more likely to come up than a 9 (if it wasn't going to before). (I don't know if it does anything like this now.)Matt Morrison wrote:Not quite. Nasty includes ALL 9-letter words, including plurals. You're asking for just the normally-valid-for-conundrum 9s, of which all the new ones that haven't been considered suitable as conundrums previously would be graded 10, yes?
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It would still affect a lot of other stuff, like Ascension and the Duel.Gavin Chipper wrote:Yes. But I suppose given that they're all included in nasty anyway (as well as plurals) it's not as important because people can still come across them. But yes I still think that it would be good to have all the possible valid ones in the normal variant. We discussed the other day on Apterous about how it decides the hardness for a conundrum and I can't remember exactly how you specified it, but presumably if there are more of a particular hardness (say 10) then probabilities could be weighted so that a 10 is no more likely to come up than a 9 (if it wasn't going to before). (I don't know if it does anything like this now.)Matt Morrison wrote:Not quite. Nasty includes ALL 9-letter words, including plurals. You're asking for just the normally-valid-for-conundrum 9s, of which all the new ones that haven't been considered suitable as conundrums previously would be graded 10, yes?
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Playing Devil's Advocate a bit here (is that the right term?) as I don't care too much but to take Ascension - that will never finish. There are people who will never finish it, me included. Surely then that doesn't mean the conundrum base can never change because Ascension would be affected? Won't ODE3 ones go in?Charlie Reams wrote:It would still affect a lot of other stuff, like Ascension and the Duel.Gavin Chipper wrote:Yes. But I suppose given that they're all included in nasty anyway (as well as plurals) it's not as important because people can still come across them. But yes I still think that it would be good to have all the possible valid ones in the normal variant. We discussed the other day on Apterous about how it decides the hardness for a conundrum and I can't remember exactly how you specified it, but presumably if there are more of a particular hardness (say 10) then probabilities could be weighted so that a 10 is no more likely to come up than a 9 (if it wasn't going to before). (I don't know if it does anything like this now.)Matt Morrison wrote:Not quite. Nasty includes ALL 9-letter words, including plurals. You're asking for just the normally-valid-for-conundrum 9s, of which all the new ones that haven't been considered suitable as conundrums previously would be graded 10, yes?
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There's a difference between adding 50 new ODE3 words and almost 9000 very obscure words, which would make Ascension nearly twice as long and (even more) boring since you have virtually no chance on nearly half of the answers.Matt Morrison wrote: Playing Devil's Advocate a bit here (is that the right term?) as I don't care too much but to take Ascension - that will never finish. There are people who will never finish it, me included. Surely then that doesn't mean the conundrum base can never change because Ascension would be affected? Won't ODE3 ones go in?
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Totally agreed. So what happens to Ascension when you add the 50 from ODE3? Does it just get 50 longer automatically? What about people who have already completed the fucker?Charlie Reams wrote:There's a difference between adding 50 new ODE3 words and almost 9000 very obscure words, which would make Ascension nearly twice as long and (even more) boring since you have virtually no chance on nearly half of the answers.Matt Morrison wrote: Playing Devil's Advocate a bit here (is that the right term?) as I don't care too much but to take Ascension - that will never finish. There are people who will never finish it, me included. Surely then that doesn't mean the conundrum base can never change because Ascension would be affected? Won't ODE3 ones go in?
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They have to do it all again - serves them right for trying to get a head start when they knew ODE3 was coming.Matt Morrison wrote:So what happens to Ascension when you add the 50 from ODE3? Does it just get 50 longer automatically? What about people who have already completed the fucker?
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Yep. Old ascensions won't be changed, but in-progress ones will get longer.Matt Morrison wrote:Totally agreed. So what happens to Ascension when you add the 50 from ODE3? Does it just get 50 longer automatically? What about people who have already completed the fucker?Charlie Reams wrote:There's a difference between adding 50 new ODE3 words and almost 9000 very obscure words, which would make Ascension nearly twice as long and (even more) boring since you have virtually no chance on nearly half of the answers.Matt Morrison wrote: Playing Devil's Advocate a bit here (is that the right term?) as I don't care too much but to take Ascension - that will never finish. There are people who will never finish it, me included. Surely then that doesn't mean the conundrum base can never change because Ascension would be affected? Won't ODE3 ones go in?
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How important is the Ascension in the scale of things?
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My mum also loves saying "the" in front of things that don't have "the" in the title, it's both annoying and cute.Gavin Chipper wrote:How important is the Ascension in the scale of things?
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Like Handel's Messiah?Matt Morrison wrote:My mum also loves saying "the" in front of things that don't have "the" in the title, it's both annoying and cute.Gavin Chipper wrote:How important is the Ascension in the scale of things?
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It became a bit of an in-joke after she kept referring to Edge magazine as The Edge.Ryan Taylor wrote:Like Handel's Messiah?Matt Morrison wrote:My mum also loves saying "the" in front of things that don't have "the" in the title, it's both annoying and cute.Gavin Chipper wrote:How important is the Ascension in the scale of things?
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A bit important. More important than a bunch of conundrums that no one wants to do, anyway.Gavin Chipper wrote:How important is the Ascension in the scale of things?
I wouldn't be averse to a "somewhat nasty" variant which did what you want.
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Third, after Easter and Christmas.Gavin Chipper wrote:How important is the Ascension in the scale of things?
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Wouldn't it just ruin the conundrums of the televised apterous Series finals? I'm sure Damo made a point about it a while back.Charlie Reams wrote:A bit important. More important than a bunch of conundrums that no one wants to do, anyway.Gavin Chipper wrote:How important is the Ascension in the scale of things?
I wouldn't be averse to a "somewhat nasty" variant which did what you want.
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Dinos Sfyris 76 - 78 Dorian Lidell
Proof that even idiots can get well and truly mainwheeled.
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The objective of apterous is to help people get better, not to prop up a television show which relies on surveillance of its best contestants to make their tasks more difficult. And anyway, we've seen with ECLAMPSIA and more recent examples that people can get sub-1 second conundrums whether they've seen a word before or not.Kai Laddiman wrote: Wouldn't it just ruin the conundrums of the televised apterous Series finals? I'm sure Damo made a point about it a while back.
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OK. For even more completeness, perhaps it could include words that have an anagram, as long as the scramble is that anagram (since this can happen on the show).Charlie Reams wrote:A bit important. More important than a bunch of conundrums that no one wants to do, anyway.Gavin Chipper wrote:How important is the Ascension in the scale of things?
I wouldn't be averse to a "somewhat nasty" variant which did what you want.
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Yep, I've been meaning to do that for a while anyway. I did a trial run with the Duel and it generated a fewer than expected number of complaints.Gavin Chipper wrote:OK. For even more completeness, perhaps it could include words that have an anagram, as long as the scramble is that anagram (since this can happen on the show).Charlie Reams wrote:A bit important. More important than a bunch of conundrums that no one wants to do, anyway.Gavin Chipper wrote:How important is the Ascension in the scale of things?
I wouldn't be averse to a "somewhat nasty" variant which did what you want.
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I don't know if this has been brought up already, and I apologize if it has been, but in the scoresheets for Goatdown, is it possible to show what the needed letter was for Metamax, or what word would be the metamax word?
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Yeh, I've thought about that too before. If you click on the number it links to the stemmer, but that only works for 9-letter metamaxes. It's a good idea.Jordan F wrote:I don't know if this has been brought up already, and I apologize if it has been, but in the scoresheets for Goatdown, is it possible to show what the needed letter was for Metamax, or what word would be the metamax word?
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Proof that even idiots can get well and truly mainwheeled.
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Proof that even idiots can get well and truly mainwheeled.
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It would be nice. When Goatdown was first implemented we had a shortage of database space and I didn't want to store all the metamaxes, but I think these days it would be feasible.Jordan F wrote:I don't know if this has been brought up already, and I apologize if it has been, but in the scoresheets for Goatdown, is it possible to show what the needed letter was for Metamax, or what word would be the metamax word?
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The Hall of Spoons needs decorating. I sent a nomination to the e-mail address listed there a couple of months ago. I appreciate there may be more pressing matters to deal with, but you did say this:
"29th August. Welcome to our new game mode: Ascension. Ever wanted to play every single conundrum? Me neither, but now you can anyway. It's under the "More stuff..." tab. And who knows, there might even be a Spoon for the first person to the top."
I acknowledge the use of the word "might" there, but if you don't give a Spoon of Awesome to Giles I'll just assume that it's because he's not Kirk and therefore not important or awesome enough in your eyes (ooh, controversial).
"29th August. Welcome to our new game mode: Ascension. Ever wanted to play every single conundrum? Me neither, but now you can anyway. It's under the "More stuff..." tab. And who knows, there might even be a Spoon for the first person to the top."
I acknowledge the use of the word "might" there, but if you don't give a Spoon of Awesome to Giles I'll just assume that it's because he's not Kirk and therefore not important or awesome enough in your eyes (ooh, controversial).
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Or even a list of letters that would have given words of the metamax length (since the one letter they give as the metamax is always the most obscure, right? It would be nice to be told if there was a really easy metamax).Charlie Reams wrote:It would be nice. When Goatdown was first implemented we had a shortage of database space and I didn't want to store all the metamaxes, but I think these days it would be feasible.Jordan F wrote:I don't know if this has been brought up already, and I apologize if it has been, but in the scoresheets for Goatdown, is it possible to show what the needed letter was for Metamax, or what word would be the metamax word?
I agree. I actually submitted one several months ago, having found a link in an old thread, but that thread was so old that it's probably been longer than that since the page was checked.Ben Wilson wrote:Can you reactive the spindlomatic? It's been ages since we've had any new DC guests and some of the dialogue is getting pretty old.
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I was thinking in Statland it would be nice if $login appeared in the lists, the way they do for the Duel? That way even if you're not in the top x for the page you can still see how you compare.
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When the word "Nugget" showed up consistently capitalized, I thought we _had_ a new bot.Ben Wilson wrote:Maybe time for a new bot?
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It's a nice idea, has been discussed somewhere above (think it was the beginning of November) although I haven't really gotten anywhere with it.Lesley Hines wrote:I was thinking in Statland it would be nice if $login appeared in the lists, the way they do for the Duel? That way even if you're not in the top x for the page you can still see how you compare.
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Hmm, maybe.Lesley Hines wrote:Maybe time for a new bot?
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Lesley Hines didn't write this.Charlie Reams wrote:Hmm, maybe.Lesley Hines wrote:Maybe time for a new bot?
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Shush Lesley.Lesley Hines wrote:Lesley Hines didn't write this.Lesley Hines wrote:Hmm, maybe.Lesley Hines wrote:Maybe time for a new bot?
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It was me that asked for that and it is still #1 on my list of Things I Really Want Both In Real Life And Online.Charlie Reams wrote:It's a nice idea, has been discussed somewhere above (think it was the beginning of November) although I haven't really gotten anywhere with it.Lesley Hines wrote:I was thinking in Statland it would be nice if $login appeared in the lists, the way they do for the Duel? That way even if you're not in the top x for the page you can still see how you compare.
Just my little thought
Hmm, maybe.Lesley Hines wrote:Maybe time for a new bot?
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Charlie Reams wrote:Lesley Hines wrote:Shush Lesley.Lesley Hines wrote:
Lesley Hines didn't write this.
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Well, when you put it like that...Nick Boldock wrote: It was me that asked for that and it is still #1 on my list of Things I Really Want Both In Real Life And Online.
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Awesome I did you know. Off to don my other alter ego.Charlie Reams wrote:Lesley Hines wrote:Shush Lesley.Lesley Hines wrote:
Lesley Hines didn't write this.
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Ooh! Ooh! Now I'm almost excited!Charlie Reams wrote:Well, when you put it like that...Nick Boldock wrote: It was me that asked for that and it is still #1 on my list of Things I Really Want Both In Real Life And Online.
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Adam Gillard wrote:The Hall of Spoons needs decorating.
Paul Howe 103 - 93 Apterous Sponge - I think this was after Charlie's challenge, but if notCharlie on apterous wrote:News: There might well be a Spoon for the next person to beat Apterous Sponge in a 15-rounder (in English).
Jim Bentley 109 - 87 Apterous Sponge - hey, it's a 15-rounder and it's in English, although possibly not quite in the spirit of the challenge.
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Any chance of Junior conundrums having difficulty ratings (as their standard counterparts do)?
I'd also play a Junior ascension if there was one but I may be the only person who would...
I'd also play a Junior ascension if there was one but I may be the only person who would...
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Unfortunately we don't have anywhere near enough data.James Hall wrote:Any chance of Junior conundrums having difficulty ratings (as their standard counterparts do)?
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I'd play a Junior Ascension for what it's worth.James Hall wrote:Any chance of Junior conundrums having difficulty ratings (as their standard counterparts do)?
I'd also play a Junior ascension if there was one but I may be the only person who would...
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I'll play lots of Junior Conundrum attacks if you want to collect some more data.Charlie Reams wrote:Unfortunately we don't have anywhere near enough data.James Hall wrote:Any chance of Junior conundrums having difficulty ratings (as their standard counterparts do)?
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It's a nice offer but at the last count we have 648,686 data for our normal conundrums and that's still not really enough.Joseph Krol wrote:I'll play lots of Junior Conundrum attacks if you want to collect some more data.
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Just calculated that it would take me 173 days and 14hrs (ish) to get through a million conundrums(assuming 15sec per conundrum).Charlie Reams wrote:It's a nice offer but at the last count we have 648,686 data for our normal conundrums and that's still not really enough.Joseph Krol wrote:I'll play lots of Junior Conundrum attacks if you want to collect some more data.