Re: Politics in General
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 5:44 pm
Oh but I've just thought - what about genuine asylum seekers that can't find legal routes?
A group for contestants and lovers of the Channel 4 game show 'Countdown'.
http://www.c4countdown.co.uk/
I thought of this post when I saw this article about a shopkeeper restraining someone and the subsequent protests.Mark James wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2023 1:18 pmWhat's insane is not understanding that the actual objective of the story is to make people read the headline and think the looney left, political correctness brigade have gone too far again when in reality it's one fucking student that could have been easily ignored. It's irresponsible "journalism" and sharing the story is just adding to the nonsense culture war bullshit discourse.
Where is the article about me wanting to ban chemistry being taught because I sucked at it?
He's confirmed he's kicking the petrol/diesel car ban down the road from 2030 to 2035. He's acting like the ban would be quite an extreme thing, but it's only for new cars, so petrol and diesel cars would still exist for several years after 2030 anyway, and could still be sold second hand. He's trying to get the car driver vote at the next general election, but not everyone who drives a car is like Jeremy Clarkson.Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:02 am Quelle Surprise
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66857551
It’ll cancel out and they’ll idolise herMark James wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 11:50 am Now that womb transplants are a thing I can't wait until a trans woman has an abortion. Just to see the reaction from the right.
Still after the Clarkson vote, going after 20 mph zones.Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 11:57 amHe's confirmed he's kicking the petrol/diesel car ban down the road from 2030 to 2035. He's acting like the ban would be quite an extreme thing, but it's only for new cars, so petrol and diesel cars would still exist for several years after 2030 anyway, and could still be sold second hand. He's trying to get the car driver vote at the next general election, but not everyone who drives a car is like Jeremy Clarkson.Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:02 am Quelle Surprise
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66857551
They will have to , to by for their 50 year old kidsGavin Chipper wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 2:36 pm I'm looking forward to the day when 80-year-olds get IDed for buying cigarettes.
I work in retail and we have been told not to apprehend Shoplifters but send cctv to the police.Mark James wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 2:10 pm https://metro.co.uk/2023/10/04/people-w ... -19600987/
Minister says people who see shoplifting should perform citizens arrests. Now, while this absolutely will not decrease shoplifting, it will increase people getting the shit kicked out of them, so swings and roundabouts really. Another Tory policy win.
I once got stopped by a plain clothes policeman but he was in uniform, It was his day offGavin Chipper wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 2:35 pm Speaking of citizen's arrests, if you believe that a policeman is falsely arresting you or otherwise acting illegally, presumably you could place them under citizen's arrest.
Unless you are black. Then they just shoot.Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 5:56 pmI work in retail and we have been told not to apprehend Shoplifters but send cctv to the police.Mark James wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 2:10 pm https://metro.co.uk/2023/10/04/people-w ... -19600987/
Minister says people who see shoplifting should perform citizens arrests. Now, while this absolutely will not decrease shoplifting, it will increase people getting the shit kicked out of them, so swings and roundabouts really. Another Tory policy win.
The big differences between USA and the UK.
The cops there say "stop or I'll shoot" in the UK it's " stop or I will say stop again"
Hamas beheading babies.Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 9:13 am When you have two terrorist organisations going at each other full guns blazing, it's never going to end well.
Isis have used 4 year olds to detonate explosives. Let's not pretend they have valuesMarc Meakin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:22 amHamas beheading babies.Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 9:13 am When you have two terrorist organisations going at each other full guns blazing, it's never going to end well.
Even ISIS had standards
If we are talking about semantics 4 year olds are older than babies.Mark James wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:44 pmIsis have used 4 year olds to detonate explosives. Let's not pretend they have valuesMarc Meakin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:22 amHamas beheading babies.Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 9:13 am When you have two terrorist organisations going at each other full guns blazing, it's never going to end well.
Even ISIS had standards
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9186359/
https://twitter.com/Beltrew/status/1712023042560291083
There's no evidence of the "40 babies beheaded" according to the journalist who first reported on decapitations.
When Israel bombs buildings with babies in it, what do you think happens to their heads?
Of course, it was mission accomplished from the irresponsible media, using the 40 babies headlines to generate the kind of response from idiots that Marc has displayed here. Cop on.
Are you Owen Jones publicist?Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:28 pm Israel committing war crimes becomes far easier for them to do when they think they have the support of the "international community". So when the Tories and Keir Starmer endorse what they are doing, it's not just harmless words coming out of their mouths. It's a disgrace.
It's worth watching some of Owen Jones's videos on the subject.
No, but I think he's said some sensible stuff on the matter. But the leader of the SNP, Humza Yousaf, has condemned Israel is this too, and Novara media have made some videos on it.
It isn't worth a read. It doesn't convey what happened in the discussion at all, and it's just gutter journalism.
I'm sure Rachel Riley has had plenty to say but I don't do twatterGavin Chipper wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:48 pmNo, but I think he's said some sensible stuff on the matter. But the leader of the SNP, Humza Yousaf, has condemned Israel is this too, and Novara media have made some videos on it.
Im not surprised Hamza Yousaf has come out in support.
Maybe Corbin tooIt isn't worth a read. It doesn't convey what happened in the discussion at all, and it's just gutter journalism.
It was Israel wasn't it.Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:18 pm I've seen some propaganda media adverts on Youtube alongside ads for insurance and Sainsburys advocating killing what is the world coming to.
Note I've avoided saying who
Ironically it was a Rachel Riley video I was watching when it came upMark James wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:51 pmIt was Israel wasn't it.Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:18 pm I've seen some propaganda media adverts on Youtube alongside ads for insurance and Sainsburys advocating killing what is the world coming to.
Note I've avoided saying who
I dont like the cut of his jib.
He's not defending Hamas in any way at all, as far as I can see. He's trying to make the point that collective punishment of innocent civilians is against international law, and it's sickening how both Israelis and Palestinians are being murdered en masse. It shouldn't be controversial to be opposed to innocent civilian massacre.Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 10:33 pmI dont like the cut of his jib.
Like Piers Morgan whose politics are probably diametrically opposite of his, he strikes me as an arrogant, self serving, prick.
About the only thing I agree with him on is that Kier Stamer will win the next election.
The biggest surprise is that a member of the gay community is defending Hamas who are not exactly sympathetic to homosexuality
Committing War crimes and being terrorists is not the same thingMark James wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 10:50 am https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years ... our-faces/
The current state of Israel is a terrorist organisation as much as Hamas is.
They are committing war crimes. It is not antisemitic to point this out.
Left wing labour would have been elected if it had not been sabotaged by further right elements in its own party.
The whole situation is horrific. The Hamas attacks were brutally violent and truly horrific and completely unjustifiable, but the after effect on the people of Gaza is likely to be far wider reaching. Hamas don't care about them and are happy to use them in whatever way they can to further their aims. There was a young woman on the news https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-mid ... t-67101434 - her story is harrowing, but the contrast between the care she has in a well-equipped hospital, and the position that injured Gazaens are in is stark. Blockading Gaza to deprive the population of the basic essentials for life is inhumane - these are human lives who largely have no say or control over where they live. I'm pretty ignorant about the history of it all, but it does seem like there has been a massive imbalance of power for a long time - those are exactly the conditions that foster an explosion in extremist ideologies.Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 11:09 amCommitting War crimes and being terrorists is not the same thingMark James wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 10:50 am https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years ... our-faces/
The current state of Israel is a terrorist organisation as much as Hamas is.
They are committing war crimes. It is not antisemitic to point this out.
Left wing labour would have been elected if it had not been sabotaged by further right elements in its own party.
After the blitz great Britain flattened several cities in retaliation, that wasn't terrorism that was retaliation.
Luckily Great Britain has been much more tolerant in recent years after all they didn't flatten Dublin after the Terrorism committed by the IRA on British soil..
I do feel sorry for Palestinians they were displaced because the State of Israel was created by the Western governments not only after the Holocaust but because having a western sympathetic nation in the middle East was favourable politically.
I think you're missing the point here. It's not just that historically more Palestinians have died than Israelis. It's that right now, Israel's actions matter and it is a very pressing concern that should be discussed by politicians and on political programmes.Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 10:39 am My Beef with Owen Jones is he was having a discussion with an MP who was visibly upset as she had only recently visit the Kibbutz that was ritually slaughtered with unspeakable terror.
Jones was giving counter opinions far too soon after the event.
It was too soon and not really the platform to have this discussion at that time.
What the British Empire did to Ireland and most of the world was terrorism. If that's the road you want to go down then the IRA were just retaliating against an invading force of colonialist scumbags.Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 11:09 amCommitting War crimes and being terrorists is not the same thingMark James wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 10:50 am https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years ... our-faces/
The current state of Israel is a terrorist organisation as much as Hamas is.
They are committing war crimes. It is not antisemitic to point this out.
Left wing labour would have been elected if it had not been sabotaged by further right elements in its own party.
After the blitz great Britain flattened several cities in retaliation, that wasn't terrorism that was retaliation.
Luckily Great Britain has been much more tolerant in recent years after all they didn't flatten Dublin after the Terrorism committed by the IRA on British soil..
Yeah targeting innocent women children and horses.Mark James wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:08 pmWhat the British Empire did to Ireland and most of the world was terrorism. If that's the road you want to go down then the IRA were just retaliating against an invading force of colonialist scumbags.Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 11:09 amCommitting War crimes and being terrorists is not the same thingMark James wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 10:50 am https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years ... our-faces/
The current state of Israel is a terrorist organisation as much as Hamas is.
They are committing war crimes. It is not antisemitic to point this out.
Left wing labour would have been elected if it had not been sabotaged by further right elements in its own party.
After the blitz great Britain flattened several cities in retaliation, that wasn't terrorism that was retaliation.
Luckily Great Britain has been much more tolerant in recent years after all they didn't flatten Dublin after the Terrorism committed by the IRA on British soil..
I see Owen Jones has addressed the dichotomy of defending a nation that has banned homosexualityMarc Meakin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 10:33 pmI dont like the cut of his jib.
Like Piers Morgan whose politics are probably diametrically opposite of his, he strikes me as an arrogant, self serving, prick.
About the only thing I agree with him on is that Kier Stamer will win the next election.
The biggest surprise is that a member of the gay community is defending Hamas who are not exactly sympathetic to homosexuality
I didnt know Tony Blair was thereGavin Chipper wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:52 pm Rishi Sunak has visited Israel and is cosying up to the war criminal.
Israel have always used defending it's borders as justification for there actions.Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 9:34 pm Yeah so basically Israel have taken this terrorist attack as a green light to indiscriminately bomb Palestinian civilians, and the Tories, Starmer etc. are just saying "Israel has an absolute right to defend itself". What they are doing has nothing to do with defence. It's outrageous.
Plus if the Netanyahu regime can use the excuse of everything Hamas has done to justify killing civilians, Hamas could justify their terrorist attack on the basis of the Netanyahu regime and everything it has done. But, to be clear, neither are justified.
No mention of the slimeball David Cameron returning to front line politics.Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 2:12 pm With James Cleverly replacing Suella Braverman as home secretary, it's more evidence that the Tories avoid white home secretaries to avoid accusations of racism when they spout the bile that they spout.
I was kind of speechless on the David Cameron thing. But I hear they've ordered in a supply of dead pigs.Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 5:00 pmNo mention of the slimeball David Cameron returning to front line politics.Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 2:12 pm With James Cleverly replacing Suella Braverman as home secretary, it's more evidence that the Tories avoid white home secretaries to avoid accusations of racism when they spout the bile that they spout.
Mind you being the 4th worst Tory Prime minister of the last 10 years is some accolade
I mean I'm no fan of the guy but compared to some of the alternatives he seems relatively sane. And let's face it, who here can honestly say they haven't stuck their dick somewhere they shouldn't have?Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:35 pm OK, so back to David Cameron. Rishi Sunak has literally just taken some guy off the street to be his foreign secretary. He is not an MP and was not in the House of Lords. It could have been you. It could have been me. It could have been Brian Cox (either of them). But it just happened to be David Cameron who won the tie-break of most dead pigs he's put his penis in.
I think the difference is, even the Countdowners who are most starved of action generally don't turn to different species.Fiona T wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:52 pmI mean I'm no fan of the guy but compared to some of the alternatives he seems relatively sane. And let's face it, who here can honestly say they haven't stuck their dick somewhere they shouldn't have?Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:35 pm OK, so back to David Cameron. Rishi Sunak has literally just taken some guy off the street to be his foreign secretary. He is not an MP and was not in the House of Lords. It could have been you. It could have been me. It could have been Brian Cox (either of them). But it just happened to be David Cameron who won the tie-break of most dead pigs he's put his penis in.
The pig I can forgive but getting into bed with with the fib dems no.Fiona T wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:52 pmI mean I'm no fan of the guy but compared to some of the alternatives he seems relatively sane. And let's face it, who here can honestly say they haven't stuck their dick somewhere they shouldn't have?Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:35 pm OK, so back to David Cameron. Rishi Sunak has literally just taken some guy off the street to be his foreign secretary. He is not an MP and was not in the House of Lords. It could have been you. It could have been me. It could have been Brian Cox (either of them). But it just happened to be David Cameron who won the tie-break of most dead pigs he's put his penis in.
As far as I'm aware, Brown hadn't even considered the possibility of a coalition, and effectively dismissed the possibility without consideration. Utterly stupid. The Lib Dems I think got blinded by the lure of power, and paid dearly for it, as did we all.Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 9:59 pm True, Clegg really sold his soul and his principles.
He should have picked Gordon Brown