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I thought it might be a nice idea to put a couple of your own games here that you thought merited a mention - whether a classic or just a fun game. All my games were great (thanks mainly to my opponents) but I realise how important getting conundrums instantly are against the pros of this world. I managed to lose 3 games all on crucial conundrums this year which was slightly disappointing for me. Anyway, here goes with my top game:

KIRK BEVINS vs MARK TOURNOFF

C1: KIRK BEVINS
C2: MARK TOURNOFF
DC: JONO

1) S S R U I E T F J
2) D A X I A R N A L
3) B V S O A O T R E
4) 100, 50, 75, 25, 5, 2 TARGET 550
5) T L Q A O A Z O R
6) S S P A A E R T I
7) D H G A F O E M D
8) 1, 7, 2, 2, 4, 1 TARGET 453
9) COCOAHILL (conundrum)


ROUND 1: S S R U I E T F J
C1: SIFTERS (7)
C2: SURFEITS (8)

0-8 (MAX 8)

ROUND 2: D A X I A R N A L
C1: LANIARD (7)
C2: ARANID (X)

7-8 (MAX 15)

ROUND 3: B V S O A O T R E
C1: BOASTER (7)
C2: BOATERS (7)

14-15 (MAX 22)

ROUND 4: 100, 50, 75, 25, 5, 2 TARGET 550
C1: (100X5)+50
C2: (100X5)+50

24-25 (MAX 32)

ROUND 5: T L Q A O A Z O R
C1: AORTA (5)
C2: AORTAL (X)

29-25 (MAX 37)

ROUND 6: S S P A A E R T I
C1: PARASITES (9)
C2: PARASITES (9)
DC: ASPIRATES (9)

47-43 (MAX 55)

ROUND 7: D H G A F O E M D
C1: HOMAGE (6)
C2: HOMAGE (6)
DC: GODHEAD (7)

53-49 (MAX 62)

ROUND 8: 1, 7, 2, 2, 4, 1 TARGET 453
C1: 252
C2: 252

53-49 (MAX 62)

ROUND 9: COCOAHILL (conundrum)
C2 buzzed on 1 second to say, correctly, ALCOHOLIC.

53-59 (MAX 72)

And so there it was - I had been defeated by Mark Tournoff for my third time despite, yet again, it being very close and for the second time him coming from behind to beat me on the conundrum. Between us all, all the maximums were obtained but I just hoped the 6 small in round 8 proved nicer as I might have been able to secure victory before the conundrum. Nevertheless an entertaining game.

Kirk

I think I mentioned this to you, but there's the rather nice SATRAPIES in round 6.

You did indeed. Well spotted. Fancy posting some of your games, Conor so we can play against you?

Sorry, I don't have my sheets. (They'd be useless anyway, I don't write down the selection or my opponent's offering.)

Conor wrote:Sorry, I don't have my sheets. (They'd be useless anyway, I don't write down the selection or my opponent's offering.)

Same here. I think my game with Conor though, might fall under 2 possible achievements (CT: 69 v JB: 15):

1) Conor got a winning margin of 54 points - not sure if this is the highest.
2) I got a low score of 15 (finally getting off the mark after round 7 ) - not sure if this is the lowest.

I'm gonna dissect my games later so I might put up a couple if they are worthwhile.

Sorted!

I don't have the order the letters came out in, so these are my best guesses.

Jono vs. Joe Bolas
Round 2, Game 1.
Hosted by Conor Travers

ROUND ONE - A E I O D H K T Y


Jono: IODATE (6)
Joe: TODAY (5)
DC: KAYOED, OKAYED (6)
6-0

ROUND TWO - A E E I O D S S V


Jono: DEVISES (7)
Joe: ADVISES (7)
DC: ADIOSES, ADVISES, DISEASE, SEASIDE (7)
13-7

ROUND THREE - A A E I U P R S T


Jono: SEPTARIA (8)
Joe: PARASITE (8)
DC: ASPIRATE
21-15

ROUND FOUR - 25 50 75 100 4 7 TARGET 897


Jono: 7 * 100 + 4 * 50 - 75 / 25 = 987 (10)
Joe: -
31-15

ROUND FIVE - A E I I U L M P S


Jono: IMPLIES (7)
Joe: IMPALES (7)
DC: IMPULSE, MILIEUS (7)
38-22

ROUND SIX - E E I U L N N R V


Jono: UNNERVE (7)
Joe: neurile (x)
DC: ENLIVEN, NERVINE (7)
45-22

ROUND SEVEN - A E I O D N R W X


Jono: EXORDIA (7)
Joe: ORDAIN (6)
DC: ANEROID, DIOXANE, DOWNIER (7)
52-22

ROUND EIGHT - 25 50 75 100 9 5 TARGET 207


Jono: (50 * 100 + 75) / 25 + 9 - 5 = 207 (10)
Joe: -
62-22

CONUNDRUM - J O N O S R U D E


Jono: SOJOURNED (2s.)
Joe: -
72-22


My best performance of the day.. well, ever, in a competitive match, joint with the previous game against Jim Bentley where I also missed nothing. In fact, I went 23 maxes in a row, without really playing that well, but consistently. I then lost against Conor.

Some things never change.

I'm glad you decided to post your game against Mark T in the opening post of this thread, Kirk, rather than your game against me. I wouldn't have wanted other people here to have known that I only came up with a three-letter word in the first round I played. Nor that it took four rounds before I got my first points of the day. So, thanks Kirk.

Jono, Joe's words were TODAY, NEURILE^ and ORDAIN.

Ginger Jono wrote:My best performance of the day.. well, ever, in a competitive match, joint with the previous game against Jim Bentley where I also missed nothing. In fact, I went 23 maxes in a row, without really playing that well, but consistently. I then lost against Conor.

I must admit, that wasn't my bast game . I do feel sorry that I wasn't able to give you (or Conor) a closer-called game.

Joseph Bolas wrote:

Conor wrote:Sorry, I don't have my sheets. (They'd be useless anyway, I don't write down the selection or my opponent's offering.)

Same here. I think my game with Conor though, might fall under 2 possible achievements (CT: 69 v JB: 15):

1) Conor got a winning margin of 54 points - not sure if this is the highest.
2) I got a low score of 15 (finally getting off the mark after round 7 ) - not sure if this is the lowest.

I had a winning margin of 57 against Dinos when I beat him 69-12. Sorry mate!

Kirk

Howard Somerset wrote:I'm glad you decided to post your game against Mark T in the opening post of this thread, Kirk, rather than your game against me. I wouldn't have wanted other people here to have known that I only came up with a three-letter word in the first round I played. Nor that it took four rounds before I got my first points of the day. So, thanks Kirk.

Oh, the irony! By the way, the round where you got your 3, there were only two 4s available; the word I got and an obscure 4!

ROUND EIGHT - 25 50 75 100 9 5 TARGET 207


Jono: (50 * 100 + 75) / 25 + 9 - 5 = 207 (10)
Joe: -
62-22

Of course (25-100/50)x9 would be too easy!

Interestingly, I saw that sheet on the table as I was walking round and did it Jono's way. It just jumps out at you - and I'm not being sarcastic for a change!

Here's another of my games at COLIN - against the lovely Christine Armstrong.

C1: CHRISTINE ARMSTRONG
C2: KIRK BEVINS
DC: HOWARD SOMERSET


ROUND 1: H D S R A O E U V
ROUND 2: P J R E O A L R N
ROUND 3: F R F N I E A G A
ROUND 4: 2, 7, 1, 4, 8, 6 TARGET 768
ROUND 5: R S T O E A R N Q
ROUND 6: V D N E A A D W E
ROUND 7: G T R E I O G S S
ROUND 8: 8, 1, 6, 7, 4, 2 TARGET 452
ROUND 9: BOGSALMON (conundrum)


ROUND 1: H D S R A O E U V
C1: DEVOURS (7)
C2: SAVOURED (8)

0-8

ROUND 2: P J R E O A L R N
C1: PAROLE (6)
C2: PAROLE (6)

6-14

ROUND 3: F R F N I E A G A
C1: FEARING (7)
C2: FEARING (7)

13-21

ROUND 4: 2, 7, 1, 4, 8, 6 TARGET 768
C1: 769
C2: (6+2)x8 = 64. 7+4+1=12. 64x12 = 768.

13-31

ROUND 5: R S T O E A R N Q
C1: ROASTER (7)
C2: SANTERO (7)

20-38

ROUND 6: V D N E A A D W E
C1: WEAVED (6)
C2: VENDED (6)
DC: DAVENED (7)

26-44

ROUND 7: G T R E I O G S S
C1: SOGGIEST (8)
C2: STRIGOSE (8)

34-52

ROUND 8: 8, 1, 6, 7, 4, 2 TARGET 452
C1: 451
C2: 8x7=56. 6+2=8. 56x8 = 448. 448+4 = 452.

34-62

ROUND 9: BOGSALMON
Nobody buzzes. The answer is BOOMSLANG.

Final score: 34-62.

Another enjoyable game with a lovely opponent and DC guest. Keep the games coming in if you have them - they're great to view and practise against!

Kirk

Agree with Kirk - if there are any more games to post I would like to see how I would do. It's good to test yourself against some of the best that have played the game.

We'd have needed a second conundrum to us split us on your game against Christine.

Kirk Bevins wrote:Interestingly, I saw that sheet on the table as I was walking round and did it Jono's way. It just jumps out at you - and I'm not being sarcastic for a change!

It didn't for me .

I think if there was a 2 in the selection (instead of the 5) so the sum was (25 - 2) x 9, then I might've got it, because I remember posting about why 2 contestants didn't see the sum (75 + 1) x 9 = 684 on a numbers game (21/01/08).

dinos_the_chemist wrote:ROUND EIGHT - 25 50 75 100 9 5 TARGET 207


Jono: (50 * 100 + 75) / 25 + 9 - 5 = 207 (10)
Joe: -
62-22

Of course (25-100/50)x9 would be too easy!

I think all the four large stuff must get to you in strange ways; in our game, Jono genuinely didn't see the obvious way on this one, but still got it right:

100 75 50 25 9 10 TARGET 137

I did 100 + 50 - 10 - (75/25). Jono's solution was...less obvious. Anyone care to guess?

jimbentley wrote:

dinos_the_chemist wrote:ROUND EIGHT - 25 50 75 100 9 5 TARGET 207


Jono: (50 * 100 + 75) / 25 + 9 - 5 = 207 (10)
Joe: -
62-22

Of course (25-100/50)x9 would be too easy!

I think all the four large stuff must get to you in strange ways; in our game, Jono genuinely didn't see the obvious way on this one, but still got it right:

100 75 50 25 9 10 TARGET 137

I did 100 + 50 - 10 - (75/25). Jono's solution was...less obvious. Anyone care to guess?

Going by my game, Jono went up to 5075 so I am probably guessing he started of by saying something like 75 x 100 = 7500.

I guess he used another standard 4 large property:
(50x75)-100 = 3650. 3650/25 = 146. 146-9=137.

Kirk

And you'd be right! I never looked much at the tricksy things you can do with four large, but when Jono explained the principle behind it, it seemed so obvious. I must have a proper look at Jerry's page sometime...

jimbentley wrote:And you'd be right! I never looked much at the tricksy things you can do with four large, but when Jono explained the principle behind it, it seemed so obvious. I must have a proper look at Jerry's page sometime...

Is this the link: http://www.jerryh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ ... umbers.htm

Is there any other sites that might come in handy for learning the techniques with 4 large?

It is the link, yes. I believe MG wrote some stuff on 4 from the top but Jerry's page is the definitive one.

Alternatively, you can pay £5 for Stuart Earl's e-book, which unceremoniously copies this and other pages from around the internet.

Miaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaooooooooooooooooowww!

Yes, this would be the e-book in relation to which a certain Mr D. Eadie accused Stuart of "charlatan-like profiteering", I believe? I shall make no judgement on the matter...

Julian wrote:Yes, this would be the e-book in relation to which a certain Mr D. Eadie accused Stuart of "charlatan-like profiteering", I believe? I shall make no judgement on the matter...

I did buy it as I thought it might help but by that stage I had already decided to apply to go on the show and had sought advice from those on the mailing list. A lot of the stuff that Stuart's book covers was covered, and in more detail, from chatting online with other Countdowners and visiting Jerry Humphries' website. My 'miaow' comment was a little tongue in cheek since I believe Jono has a valid point. However, since Stuart plans to use the money for charitable purposes I see it as a bit of a stretch to accuse him of profiteering.

PS I know you aren't accusing him, Julian

He's using the proceeds for charitable purposes is he? Didn't know that. Not sure that Damian did either. Hmmm well, that changes things slightly although, as with you David, I do still think Jono (and Damian) has a point...

If by charitable you mean religious charity, a religion-based charity or the RSPB, then I still don't give a shit. Otherwise, I retract my abuse.

I am fairly sure it was for a house-building project in an African country but I cannot remember the specifics so I don't think it matters that there is a religious dimension: it's not as if the money is filling the coffers of Stuart's Church.

How many people would buy the book if they knew the same information is available for free?

Charlie Reams wrote:How many people would buy the book if they knew the same information is available for free?

To be scrupulously fair, I suppose you could say that about a lot of books now that we're in the internet age... it just depends on how much time you're prepared to spend looking for said information... still, Stuart's promoting of his book does seem to have touched a nerve with a lot of people

Just to get this thread back on track, I'm happy to share the six games I had at COLIN - which was excellently run and thoroughly enjoyable throughout as per usual. I don't have every offering of my opponents to hand, but I have downloaded the brilliant Countmax to check max scores. Will type up the first two and see how bored I am after that!

C1: DAN VANNIASINGHAM
C2: MARK TOURNOFF
DC: SCOTT KENYON

1) S N O W U S O H K
2) C M I E B A L D P
3) R S I T O N A L E
4) 2, 8, 4, 10, 1, 100 TARGET 210
5) T E L E Q A L U N
6) T X I P E C A T D
7) W A Z A R I S A E
8) 2, 10, 10, 7, 8, 75 TARGET 927
9) NECKADMIN (conundrum)


ROUND 1: S N O W U S O H K
C1: SHONKS (6)
C2: SWOONS (6)
OT: UNHOOKS (7)

6-6 (MAX 7)

ROUND 2: C M I E B A L D P
C1: CLAMPED (7)
C2: DECIMAL (7)

13-13 (MAX 14)

ROUND 3: R S I T O N A L E
C1: RELATIONS/TENSORIAL/ORIENTALS (18)
C2: RELATIONS/TENSORIAL/ORIENTALS (18)

31-31 (MAX 32)

ROUND 4: 2, 8, 4, 10, 1, 100 TARGET 210
C1: 2 x 100 + 10 (10)
C2: 2 x 100 + 10 (10)

41-41 (MAX 42)

ROUND 5: T E L E Q A L U N
C1: EQUATE (6)
C2: EQUATE (6)

47-47 (MAX 48)

ROUND 6: T X I P E C A T D
C1: DICTATE (7)
C2: PITTED

54-47 (MAX 55)

ROUND 7: W A Z A R I S A E
C1: raizes
C2: zaires
OT: WAZIRS (6)

54-47 (MAX 61)

ROUND 8: 2, 10, 10, 7, 8, 75 TARGET 927
C1: 928 : (75 + 10 + 8) x 10 - 2
C2: 925
OT: 927: ((2 x 8) + 75) x 10 + 10 + 7 (just seen that)

61-47 (MAX 71)

ROUND 9: NECKADMIN (conundrum)
C2 buzzed on 2 seconds to say, correctly, NICKNAMED.

61-57 (MAX 81)

A surprising start, I was very fortunate to catch Mark T cold - and having read half of 'Crucial' so far I doubt he'd prepared for COLIN in the same manner! Only UNHOOKS and WAZIRS(?) missed on the letters though, and with DICTATE they were all darrens. Round 7 was interesting : Mark declared 6 and I got my tactics badly wrong in doing the same - but it didn't prove costly. Zaires is capitalised unfortunately.

After that start, the last thing I wanted was a defeat to Scott "EXITLESS/DONKING" Kenyon...


C1: SCOTT KENYON
C2: DAN VANNIASINGHAM
DC: MARK TOURNOFF

1) D T M O A E R T I
2) S D E W E C O V G
3) S R Z I A A U C T
4) 10, 2, 10, 8, 7, 5 TARGET 830
5) N S O L U Q I L E
6) T W L A I A H N O
7) N L A S I T A E E
8) 9, 4, 7, 9, 5, 75 TARGET 740
9) KORKPOWER (conundrum)


ROUND 1: D T M O A E R T I
C1: MOATED (6)
C2: MOATED (6)
OT: MEDITATOR (18)

6-6 (MAX 18)

ROUND 2: S D E W E C O V G
C1: DOVES
C2: WEDGES (6)
OT: WODGES, SWEDGE & GEODES all for 6

6-12 (MAX 24)

ROUND 3: S R Z I A A U C T
C1: RUSTIC (6)
C2: RUSTIC (6)
OT: CARITAS & CZARIST for 7

12-18 (MAX 31)

ROUND 4: 10, 2, 10, 8, 7, 5 TARGET 830
C1: (8 x 10 + 5 - 2) x 10 (10)
C2: (8 x 10 + 5 - 2) x 10 (10)

22-28 (MAX 41)

ROUND 5: N S O L U Q I L E
C1: QUILLS (6)
C2: QUILLS (6)
OT: ELUSION & QUINOLS for 7

28-34 (MAX 48)

ROUND 6: T W L A I A H N O
C1: HALATION (8)
C2: TAIL
OT: TANIWHA the only 7, behind the darren

36-34 (MAX 56)

ROUND 7: N L A S I T A E E
C1: ENTAILS (7)
C2: ENTAILS (7)
DC: ALIENATES (18)
OT: ALIENATE & ELASTANE the only 8's

43-41 (MAX 74)

ROUND 8: 9, 4, 7, 9, 5, 75 TARGET 740
C1: 739 : ((75 + 7) x 9) + 5 - 4
C2: 739 : ((75 + 7) x 9) + 5 - 4
OT: 740: ((75 + 9) x 9) - 7 - 5 - 4

50-48 (MAX 84)

ROUND 9: KORKPOWER (conundrum)
C2 buzzed on 28 seconds to guess, correctly, POKERWORK.

50-58 (MAX 94)

Oh dear! A fortunate win with a pitiful 3 maxes. I had moderati in the opener but failed to rearrange it for MEDIATOR(or even see a 7?!), and wasn't close to ALIENATES. The game swung hugely on HALATION - which Scott openly admitted to having made up as it "sounds like a word", and "you can have INhalation, so why not halation?" - perfectly logical, except it's to do with the blurring of illuminated images. Having got stuck repeatedly on -KEEPER (which isn't there) on the conundrum, and having broken it down into WORK and POKER, I had a desperate guess at POKERWORK over WORKPOKER - which proved a smart move. Poor Scott - he finally succeeds with a made-up word, only to lose to a conundrum which sums up his job (I'm unsure if that's the actual meaning).

Bed calls - four more to follow.

Games 3 and 4, and a table of myself, Kirk and Dinos...

C1: KIRK BEVINS
C2: DAN VANNIASINGHAM
DC: DINOS SFYRIS

1) D R N E I U L E D
2) L G E C E C A N Z
3) S N M O O I P I S
4) 1, 2, 4, 8, 4, 100 TARGET 719
5) M D E N A D I T T
6) S S G O A E R W R
7) J R E T E V U S R
8) 7, 9, 6, 5, 2, 75 TARGET 285
9) KIRKSNASH (conundrum)


ROUND 1: D R N E I U L E D
C1: ? possibly inruled
C2: nerdled
DC: UNDERLIE (8)
OT: REDLINED & UNRIDDLE for 8

0-0 (MAX 8)

ROUND 2: L G E C E C A N Z
C1: CANCEL (6)
C2: GLANCE (6)
OT: CENACLE (7)

6-6 (MAX 15)

ROUND 3: S N M O O I P I S
C1: POISONS
C2: OMISSION (8)

6-14 (MAX 23)

ROUND 4: 1, 2, 4, 8, 4, 100 TARGET 719
C1: 719: (100 - 4 - 4 - 2) x 8 - 1 (10)
C2: 719: (100 - 4 - 4 - 2) x 8 - 1 (10)

16-24 (MAX 33)

ROUND 5: M D E N A D I T T
C1: MEDIANT (7)
C2: MEDIANT (7)
DC: ADMITTED (8)
OT: Only TAINTED for 7 also above a 6

23-31 (MAX 41)

ROUND 6: S S G O A E R W R
C1: GROSSER (7)
C2: GROSSER (7)
OT: GROWERS, REGROWS & SOARERS (7)

30-38 (MAX 48)

ROUND 7: J R E T E V U S R
C1: REVERTS (7)
C2: REVERTS (7)
OT: URETERS & VESTURE (7)

37-45 (MAX 55)

ROUND 8: 7, 9, 6, 5, 2, 75 TARGET 285
C1: 285 : (9 - 5) x 75 - 7 - 6 - 2 (10)
C2: 285 : (9 - 5) x 75 - 7 - 6 - 2 (10)

47-55 (MAX 65)

ROUND 9: KIRKSNASH (conundrum)
C2 buzzed on around 14 seconds to say, correctly, SHARKSKIN.

47-65 (MAX 75)

My third career game against Kirk, the third time I'd held a single-figure lead going into the conundrum, but the first time I'd won. Kirk was less than a second behind me on the conundrum as well - so it couldn't have been closer. Underlie and admitted were disappointing misses for both sides - and I've never heard of cenacle.

A chance to make it 4 from 4 immediately followed:


C1: DAN VANNIASINGHAM
C2: DINOS SFYRIS
DC: KIRK BEVINS

1) Q K E B E H U P V
2) S O L U T I R U F
3) S T O P E S U N T
4) 100, 75, 25, 3, 1, 9 TARGET 291
5) R A N A B I F I L
6) C T I R A L O F E
7) T O W E M I T S A
8) 25, 6, 5, 3, 8, 1 TARGET 723
9) JEDIDINOS (conundrum)


ROUND 1: Q K E B E H U P V
C1: PUKE (4)
C2: PUKE (4)
OT: PUBE... (4)

4-4 (MAX 4)

ROUND 2: S O L U T I R U F
C1: FRUITS (6)
C2: FRUITS (6)
OT: FLORUITS (8)

10-10 (MAX 12)

ROUND 3: S T O P E S U N T
C1: OUTSPENT (8)
C2: possibly SPOUTS
OT: OUTSTEPS (8)

18-10 (MAX 20)

ROUND 4: 100, 75, 25, 3, 1, 9 TARGET 291
C1: 291: 3 x 100 - 9... (10)
C2: 291: 3 x 100 - 9... (10)

28-20 (MAX 30)

ROUND 5: R A N A B I F I L
C1: FARINA (6)
C2: FARINA (6)
OT: BIFILAR & FILARIA (7)

34-26 (MAX 37)

ROUND 6: C T I R A L O F E
C1: FACTOR (6)
C2: FACTOR (6)
OT: FORTALICE (18), and around 20 7+...

40-32 (MAX 55)

ROUND 7: T O W E M I T S A
C1: TOASTIE (7)
C2: no idea
OT: OATIEST, STOMATE, anagrams of ATOMISE etc (7)

47-32 (MAX 62)

ROUND 8: 25, 6, 5, 3, 8, 1 TARGET 723
C1: 723 : (25 x 5 - 3) x 6) - 8 - 1 (10)
C2: 723 : 25 x 5 x 6 - (3 x (8 + 1)) (10)

57-42 (MAX 72)

ROUND 9: JEDIDINOS (conundrum)
C2 buzzed on 6 seconds to guess something a bit wrong.
C1 buzzed on 7 seconds to guess, correctly, DISJOINED.

67-42 (MAX 82)

Not the best game from either player once more. Round 6 was particularly terrible - both players had spotted a final A gave FACTORIAL, but were thrown by the E to the point where even DesO would've outscored us.

Two inevitable defeats to come...

The annoying thing with the above game was that we both wanted an N for UNDERLINE and then when it didn't come out, I had forgotten all about UNDERLIE. Grr. Never mind.

Cheers for posting Dan, I enjoyed playing along.

Dan Vanniasingham wrote:Games 3 and 4, and a table of myself, Kirk and Dinos...


ROUND 1: D R N E I U L E D
C1: ? possibly inruled
C2: nerdled
DC: UNDERLIE (8)
OT: REDLINED & UNRIDDLE for 8

0-0 (MAX 8)

Nerdled? Were you possibly thinking of nurdled, the tiddlywinking term for a wink which has landed so close to the pot that it can't be potted? http://www.tiddlywinks.org/lexicon/lexicon_k_to_o.html

Mikey Lear wrote:

Dan Vanniasingham wrote:Games 3 and 4, and a table of myself, Kirk and Dinos...


ROUND 1: D R N E I U L E D
C1: ? possibly inruled
C2: nerdled
DC: UNDERLIE (8)
OT: REDLINED & UNRIDDLE for 8

0-0 (MAX 8)

Nerdled? Were you possibly thinking of nurdled, the tiddlywinking term for a wink which has landed so close to the pot that it can't be potted? http://www.tiddlywinks.org/lexicon/lexicon_k_to_o.html

I think it's also a cricketing term, when the batsman tries to accumulate a score with small shots worth only one or two runs each.

Ginger Jono wrote:Cheers for posting Dan, I enjoyed playing along.

Yes likewise. And it's good to see that some of you were beatable at least! Those performances from Kirk and Jono towards the top of this thread are a bit scary-good...

Thankyou for posting my DC game and game against DanVan(Cig) rather than the one where you totally arse-raped me (Unless you plan to do it next!) In case anyone wondered the conundrum solution I offered was JOINDISED!

...I know

unless I plan to arse-rape you next? You're safe mate, I'm not that way inclined. No, I don't like to post games where I win by loads - it's no fun for the other player. Tighter games are where it's at although on the day I wasn't saying that!

EDIT: I've just reread your message - it was Dan Van who posted those games and not me!

Dinos, do you remember what words/number solutions you got in our game? I have come across the scores and it was a close-call game that was decided on a crucial conundrum, that might be worth posting here?

Joseph Bolas wrote:Dinos, do you remember what words/number solutions you got in our game? I have come across the scores and it was a close-call game that was decided on a crucial conundrum, that might be worth posting here?

Not off hand. I remember getting DACOITS where you got VIADUCTS but thats about it. If you emailed me the letter selections I could probably remember.

Kirk Bevins wrote:unless I plan to arse-rape you next? You're safe mate, I'm not that way inclined. No, I don't like to post games where I win by loads - it's no fun for the other player. Tighter games are where it's at although on the day I wasn't saying that!

EDIT: I've just reread your message - it was Dan Van who posted those games and not me!

Whoops that was a bad choice of words! I assumed it was you that posted as you did some earlier. My bad.

Well it took a while, but here are the two defeats that put me back in my place. Firstly though, in response to previous comments:

Kirk - Pretty sure I saw UNDERLIE, but in a moment of stupidity decided it wasn't a word. There was a point soon after where I thought "Hang on, I don't have a 7...".

Mike & Ben - The "nerdled" I was risking was in the cricket sense - although I couldn't remember that at the time, I was confident I hadn't made it up. Bit surprised it wasn't in, but then there's still no respotted...

Julian: I trust you are not considering me as a "beatable" player!

Dinos: I do have the notes from the "raping" Kirk gave you, and am happy to type it up if requested.

Conor/Chris Wills: I have the notes from your game too, but I won't write-up anything not involving me without permission.


Anyway, here goes:

Games 5 and 6, and a "Champions" table of Conor, Chris Wills and some loser back in 2000...

C1: DAN VANNIASINGHAM
C2: CHRIS WILLS
DC: CONOR TRAVERS

1) P L E F A G A T S
2) S R T I E A S N I
3) T C E R E T O D M
4) 75, 3, 9, 2, 5, 4 TARGET 230
5) L B H A A U T S L
6) W T I V I S E R E
7) D V Y A A O B N G
8) 50, 10, 5, 6, 6, 7 TARGET 791
9) OWNSECRET (conundrum)


ROUND 1: P L E F A G A T S
C1: PASTEL
C2: PALATES (7)
OT: It's the darren

0-7 (MAX 7)

ROUND 2: S R T I E A S N I
C1: intertias
C2: RAINIEST (8)
DC: SANITISER (18)

0-15 (MAX 25)

ROUND 3: T C E R E T O D M
C1: REMOTE (6)
C2: REMOTE (6)
DC: DETECTOR (8)
OT: ECTODERM (8), only TETRODE for 7

6-21 (MAX 33)

ROUND 4: 75, 3, 9, 2, 5, 4 TARGET 230
C1: 230: 3 x 75 + 5 (10)
C2: 230: 3 x 75 + 5 (10)

16-31 (MAX 43)

ROUND 5: L B H A A U T S L
C1: tablaus
C2: BASALT (6)
OT: BLASTULA (8), BALLAST (7)
16-37 (MAX 51)

ROUND 6: W T I V I S E R E
C1: WIRIEST (7)
C2: WIRIEST (7)
DC: VERITIES (8) (may have been Chris spotting this after the time)
OT: No other 8's

23-44 (MAX 59)

ROUND 7: D V Y A A O B N G
C1: VAGABOND (8)
C2: VAGABOND (8)
OT: No 7's, only BANDOG for 6!

31-52 (MAX 67)

ROUND 8: 50, 10, 5, 6, 6, 7 TARGET 791
C1: 792 :
C2: 791 : (50 - 6 + 5) x (10 + 6) + 7 (10)

31-62 (MAX 77)

ROUND 9: OWNSECRET (conundrum)
C1 buzzed on around 28 seconds to say, correctly, SWEETCORN

41-62 (MAX 87)

Well, when you play an all-time great, the last thing you want is a poor start. The conundrum made the score seem remotely respectable, but the gulf in talent was clear. That said, Chris missed a few words himself - so it could've been even worse.

Still, the COLIN 08 title could yet be won with 5 victories, so I got my defeat to Conor out of the way:


C1: CONOR TRAVERS
C2: DAN VANNIASINGHAM
DC: CHRIS WILLS

1) S G S E I A X S Z
2) R H A N E C O M D
3) T T K E E A V Y B
4) 75, 5, 2, 9, 1, 4 TARGET 126
5) N W E R I V A R S
6) C J Q I A O F G O
7) P T E S U L E P E
8) 100, 75, 50, 25, 8, 4 TARGET 739
9) GIVENSORE (conundrum)


ROUND 1: S G S E I A X S Z
C1: GASSES (6)
C2: GASSES (6)
OT: ASSIZES (7), and ASSIZE are it above 5

6-6 (MAX 7)

ROUND 2: R H A N E C O M D
C1: ROMANCED (8)
C2: ANCHORED (8)

14-14 (MAX 15)

ROUND 3: T T K E E A V Y B
C1: BETAKE (6)
C2: teake

14-20 (MAX 21)

ROUND 4: 75, 5, 2, 9, 1, 4 TARGET 126
C1: 126: (9 x 5) + 75 + 4 + 2 (10)
C2: 126: (9 x 5) + 75 + 4 + 2 (10)

24-30 (MAX 31)

ROUND 5: N W E R I V A R S
C1: RAVINES (7)
C2: ARRIVES (7)
OT: WAIVERS, WARRENS and WARNERS (7)

31-37 (MAX 38)

ROUND 6: C J Q I A O F G O
C1: GOOF (4)
C2: GOOF (4)
OT: CIAO (4) amongst others

35-41 (MAX 42)

ROUND 7: P T E S U L E P E
C1: STEEPLE (7)
C2: STEEPLE (7)
OT: SEPTUPLE (8) PEEPULS (7) above 6

42-48 (MAX 50)

ROUND 8: 100, 75, 50, 25, 8, 4 TARGET 739
C1: 738 : (8 x 100) - 50 - (75/25 x 4) (7)
C2: 738 : (8 x 100) - 50 - (75/25 x 4) (7)
OT: (((100 - 8) x 50 x 4) + 75) / 25 (10) is the only solution apparently

49-55 (MAX 60)

ROUND 9: GIVENSORE (conundrum)
C1 buzzed on 1 second to guess, correctly, SOVEREIGN.

49-65 (MAX 70)

Some flat letters rounds kept me in touch through to a crucial conundrum, but short of a Hansford there was only ever going to be one winner. Those "stunning" performances just about got me 5th place though - woohoo!

Nice games

Dan Vanniasingham wrote:Dinos: I do have the notes from the "raping" Kirk gave you, and am happy to type it up if requested.

By all means, rape away.

C1: DINOS SFYRIS
C2: JOSEPH BOLAS
DC: NICK WAINWRIGHT

R1. T S C V O U A I D
R2. H R U T A N I Y A
R3. E E W L S A S S S
R4. 8, 1, 5, 4, 3, 10, Target: 764
R5. P Q D U I I I N B
R6. I G L A O G S N U
R7. O I N R R R T O O
R8. 100, 75, 50, 25, 9, 1, Target: 730
R9. T O F U C A F E S (conundrum)





R1. T S C V O U A I D
C1: DACOITS (7)
C2: VIADUCTS (8)
OT: OVIDUCTS (8)
00 - 08 (Max: 08)

R2. H R U T A N I Y A
C1: TIARA (5)
C2: HAIRY (5)
OT: RHATANY (7), UNITARY (7),
05 - 13 (Max: 15)

R3. E E W L S A S S S
C1: WEASELS (7)
C2: WEASELS (7)
12 - 20 (Max: 22)

R4. 8, 1, 5, 4, 3, 10, Target: 764
C1: Nowhere
C2: Nowhere
OT: ((((10 x 3) + 8) x 5) + 1) x 4 (10)
OT: ((((8 x 3) - 5) x 10) + 1) x 4 (10)
12 - 20 (Max: 32)

R5. P Q D U I I I N B
C1: BINDI (5)
C2: QUID (4)
17 - 20 (Max: 37)

R6. I G L A O G S N U
C1: LOSING (6)
C2: LOSING (6)
OT: GAOLING (7), GOSLING (7), LOGGIAS (7), LOUSING (7),
23 - 26 (Max: 44)

R7. O I N R R R T O O
C1: ROTOR (5)
C2: ROTOR (5)
OT: INTRO (5), NITRO (5),
28 - 31 (Max: 49)

R8. 100, 75, 50, 25, 9, 1, Target: 730
C1: 730 - (75 - (100 / 50)) x (9 + 1) (10)
C2:
38 - 31 (Max: 59)

R9. T O F U C A F E S (conundrum)
C1 buzzed after less than 1 second, to say SUFFOCATE and is correct.
48 - 31 (Max: 69)

This was my closest called game of the day. After spotting VIADUCTS, I was able to keep my lead right up until the second numbers game, where I picked 4 large (even though throughout the day I had been crap at 4 large ) and lost the lead, therefore going to a crucial conundrum. The conundrum was close called as we both smacked down at the same time but it was decided that Dinos was first and got SUFFOCATE for the win.