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Not just a word (it's a sentence)

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 3:59 pm
by Charlie Reams
I'm sure this has been run before, but times they are a-changin'.

Re: Not just a word (it's a sentence)

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:23 pm
by Gavin Chipper
You could be under-age and in a relationship or engaged.

Re: Not just a word (it's a sentence)

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:45 pm
by Charlie Reams
Gavin Chipper wrote:You could be under-age and in a relationship or engaged.
You could have something useful to say instead of being a less charming echo of James Robinson.

Re: Not just a word (it's a sentence)

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:12 pm
by Jon Corby
I'm married in all but law - living together, joint mortgage, three kids, all that shizzle. I don't want to click "married" but "in a relationship" doesn't really cut it, considering some other twit will tick that because they've spoken to someone on MSN twice.

Re: Not just a word (it's a sentence)

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:13 pm
by James Doohan
Jon Corby wrote:I'm married in all but law - living together, joint mortgage, three kids, all that shizzle. I don't want to click "married" but "in a relationship" doesn't really cut it, considering some other twit will tick that because they've spoken to someone on MSN twice.
Does that not mean you are in civil partnership then? I know it does here in Ireland

Re: Not just a word (it's a sentence)

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:16 pm
by Jon Corby
james doohan wrote:
Jon Corby wrote:I'm married in all but law - living together, joint mortgage, three kids, all that shizzle. I don't want to click "married" but "in a relationship" doesn't really cut it, considering some other twit will tick that because they've spoken to someone on MSN twice.
Does that not mean you are in civil partnership then? I know it does here in Ireland
Oh I dunno - I took that to mean the gay marriage equivalent.

Re: Not just a word (it's a sentence)

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:24 pm
by James Doohan
Jon Corby wrote:
james doohan wrote:
Jon Corby wrote:I'm married in all but law - living together, joint mortgage, three kids, all that shizzle. I don't want to click "married" but "in a relationship" doesn't really cut it, considering some other twit will tick that because they've spoken to someone on MSN twice.
Does that not mean you are in civil partnership then? I know it does here in Ireland
Oh I dunno - I took that to mean the gay marriage equivalent.
As I understand you are already in a civil partnership whether you had a formal ceremony or not, as the legal implications are (Flying Spaghetti Monster forbid) that if you and your partner split up, in the eyes of the law your partner is entitled to half of your assets due to the lengthy and domestic situation of your relationship.
Hope thats not as clear as mud, but thats how I understand a civil partnership, formal or not!

Legal minefield though

Re: Not just a word (it's a sentence)

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:28 pm
by Charlie Reams
james doohan wrote: As I understand you are already in a civil partnership whether you had a formal ceremony or not, as the legal implications are (Flying Spaghetti Monster forbid) that if you and your partner split up, in the eyes of the law your partner is entitled to half of your assets due to the lengthy and domestic situation of your relationship.
I know such legislation was mooted in this country a couple of years ago, but I dunno if it ever passed. If in doubt, click "Other".

Re: Not just a word (it's a sentence)

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:55 pm
by David Williams
james doohan wrote:As I understand you are already in a civil partnership whether you had a formal ceremony or not, as the legal implications are (Flying Spaghetti Monster forbid) that if you and your partner split up, in the eyes of the law your partner is entitled to half of your assets due to the lengthy and domestic situation of your relationship.
Hope thats not as clear as mud, but thats how I understand a civil partnership, formal or not!

Legal minefield though
Based on no legal background whatever, I thought the exact opposite. If there's no marriage certificate, there's no legal implications. The woman takes the kids (probably), financial arrangements are made for their support, and all assets and liabilities go to whoever's name is on the documentation. There always seem to be moves afoot to change this, but nothing ever happens.

Re: Not just a word (it's a sentence)

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:13 pm
by Charlie Reams
David Williams wrote:
james doohan wrote:As I understand you are already in a civil partnership whether you had a formal ceremony or not, as the legal implications are (Flying Spaghetti Monster forbid) that if you and your partner split up, in the eyes of the law your partner is entitled to half of your assets due to the lengthy and domestic situation of your relationship.
Hope thats not as clear as mud, but thats how I understand a civil partnership, formal or not!

Legal minefield though
Based on no legal background whatever, I thought the exact opposite. If there's no marriage certificate, there's no legal implications. The woman takes the kids (probably), financial arrangements are made for their support, and all assets and liabilities go to whoever's name is on the documentation. There always seem to be moves afoot to change this, but nothing ever happens.
Yeah, I checked with my legal assistant (sadly not in the employ of Apterous Towers) and the law has never been passed in this country.

Re: Not just a word (it's a sentence)

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 3:23 pm
by Ben Wilson
Charlie Reams wrote:
james doohan wrote: As I understand you are already in a civil partnership whether you had a formal ceremony or not, as the legal implications are (Flying Spaghetti Monster forbid) that if you and your partner split up, in the eyes of the law your partner is entitled to half of your assets due to the lengthy and domestic situation of your relationship.
I know such legislation was mooted in this country a couple of years ago, but I dunno if it ever passed. If in doubt, click "Other".
The technical term used by the DWP (and virtually everyone else) fwiw is 'Common Law'. Civil Partnerships do indeed only refer to the gay.

Re: Not just a word (it's a sentence)

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:46 pm
by Ian Volante
Ben Wilson wrote:
Charlie Reams wrote:
james doohan wrote: As I understand you are already in a civil partnership whether you had a formal ceremony or not, as the legal implications are (Flying Spaghetti Monster forbid) that if you and your partner split up, in the eyes of the law your partner is entitled to half of your assets due to the lengthy and domestic situation of your relationship.
I know such legislation was mooted in this country a couple of years ago, but I dunno if it ever passed. If in doubt, click "Other".
The technical term used by the DWP (and virtually everyone else) fwiw is 'Common Law'. Civil Partnerships do indeed only refer to the gay.
I fall into this category too. On opinion polls, it's usually classed as "living with partner" or "living as married". Definitely a BIG step up from being in a relationship. Can't leave my toenails lying around without getting a row.

Re: Not just a word (it's a sentence)

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:04 pm
by Julie T
I appear to be the only one so far to have ticked 'divorced' so far.
Jon Corby wrote:I'm married in all but law - living together, joint mortgage, three kids, all that shizzle. I don't want to click "married" but "in a relationship" doesn't really cut it, considering some other twit will tick that because they've spoken to someone on MSN twice.
Charlie Reams wrote:
David Williams wrote:
james doohan wrote:As I understand you are already in a civil partnership whether you had a formal ceremony or not, as the legal implications are (Flying Spaghetti Monster forbid) that if you and your partner split up, in the eyes of the law your partner is entitled to half of your assets due to the lengthy and domestic situation of your relationship.
Hope thats not as clear as mud, but thats how I understand a civil partnership, formal or not!

Legal minefield though
Based on no legal background whatever, I thought the exact opposite. If there's no marriage certificate, there's no legal implications. The woman takes the kids (probably), financial arrangements are made for their support, and all assets and liabilities go to whoever's name is on the documentation. There always seem to be moves afoot to change this, but nothing ever happens.
Yeah, I checked with my legal assistant (sadly not in the employ of Apterous Towers) and the law has never been passed in this country.
That's how I understand it too. I don't mean to sound morbid and interfering, Jon (but I'll say it anyway!), if I were you, I'd make an honest woman of your beloved, or at least get a good solicitor to draw up a will to make sure she's not left high and dry if the worst happens, or indeed the other way round if you were left on your own.

Re: Not just a word (it's a sentence)

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:11 pm
by Helen Andrews
Single right now, had one 'serious' relationship but that eventually fell through. I think I'm in an 'independent woman' phase right now...

Re: Not just a word (it's a sentence)

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:59 pm
by David Williams
Julie T wrote:That's how I understand it too. I don't mean to sound morbid and interfering, Jon (but I'll say it anyway!), if I were you, I'd make an honest woman of your beloved, or at least get a good solicitor to draw up a will to make sure she's not left high and dry if the worst happens, or indeed the other way round if you were left on your own.
Yes, with no will the kids get everything. That would change the balance of power in the Corby household.

Re: Not just a word (it's a sentence)

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:19 am
by Phil Reynolds
james doohan wrote:
Jon Corby wrote:I'm married in all but law - living together, joint mortgage, three kids, all that shizzle. I don't want to click "married" but "in a relationship" doesn't really cut it, considering some other twit will tick that because they've spoken to someone on MSN twice.
Does that not mean you are in civil partnership then? I know it does here in Ireland
No. The term 'civil partnership' in the UK applies specifically and solely to same-sex couples.

See http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Governmentc ... G_10026937 for some official info. The following quote is possibly relevant:
There are over four million couples living together in England and Wales in cohabitation. Although cohabitants are now given legal protection in several areas, they and their families have significantly fewer rights and responsibilities than people who are married or who have formed a civil partnership.

Most people think that, after they've been living with their partner for a couple of years, they become 'common law husband and wife' with the same rights as married couples. This is not the case. In fact, couples who live together have hardly any of the same rights as married couples or civil partners.

There is no such thing as ‘common law marriage’.

Re: Not just a word (it's a sentence)

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 5:59 pm
by Matthew Green
So I'm married to a woman but I get lumped in with the gayers? Not fair.

Re: Not just a word (it's a sentence)

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:57 pm
by Martin Smith
So less than half of Countdown fans can find a girlfriend/boyfriend? That's a bit worrying. Maybe we're all too choosy.

Re: Not just a word (it's a sentence)

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:28 pm
by Michael Wallace
Martin Smith wrote:So less than half of Countdown fans can find a girlfriend/boyfriend? That's a bit worrying. Maybe we're all too choosy.
Yeah, that must be it.

Re: Not just a word (it's a sentence)

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:21 pm
by Dinos Sfyris
I'd like to know who else GANDISEEG

Re: Not just a word (it's a sentence)

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:27 pm
by Matthew Green
The fact that 50% of people on a Countdown forum are in or have been in any sort of relationship with another human being greatly surprises me.

Re: Not just a word (it's a sentence)

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:41 pm
by Jeff Clayton
Some might not relish the sudden prospect of a squirming baby.

Re: Not just a word (it's a sentence)

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:55 pm
by Charlie Reams
Jeff Clayton wrote:Some might not relish the sudden prospect of a squirming baby.
Especially not on their lap. Makes it very hard to type, you know.

Re: Not just a word (it's a sentence)

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:55 pm
by Jeff Clayton
Really? Does that mean you've had some sort of relationship with another human?

Re: Not just a word (it's a sentence)

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:32 am
by Andrew Feist
Matthew Green wrote:The fact that 50% of people on a Countdown forum are in or have been in any sort of relationship with another human being greatly surprises me.
We were young and didn't know any better. But now we have seen the errors of our ways, and it won't happen again, sir.

Re: Not just a word (it's a sentence)

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:00 am
by Rosemary Roberts
Matthew Green wrote:The fact that 50% of people on a Countdown forum are in or have been in any sort of relationship with another human being greatly surprises me.
There are over a thousand registered members, so it's more like 2% that admit to a relationship. And most of the rest aren't saying. Do you feel more at home with that?