Spoilers for Thursday 19th November 2009

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:15 pm

Charlie Khoo v Annie Durham (aka Anniehall)
Let Battle commence.

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:29 pm

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:32 pm

HORSIEST

Liam Tiernan · Post by **Liam Tiernan** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:32 pm

HOARIEST as an equaller rd 2

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:35 pm

SONNETED

Liam Tiernan · Post by **Liam Tiernan** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:37 pm

Alt 1st numbers: (9+3)X(75+4)=948

Julie Russell · Post by **Julie Russell** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:47 pm

NOMINEES

Lesley Hines · Post by **Lesley Hines** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:47 pm

round 7 NOMINEES

AnnieHall · Post by **AnnieHall** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:50 pm

When I put all the words in a word solver after, I found LIMONENES for a 9 (Which Susie doesn't see) for round 7.

Peter Mabey · Post by **Peter Mabey** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:55 pm

Alt 2nd numbers: (3x25+2x7)x(4+5)=801

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:55 pm

AnnieHall wrote:When I put all the words in a word solver after, I found LIMONENES for a 9 (Which Susie doesn't see) for round 7.

LIMONENE does not take an S in the dictionary Countdown uses

Liam Tiernan · Post by **Liam Tiernan** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:01 pm

BODHRANS is actually pronounced as boughrawns (sorry that's about as close as I can get).

Liam Tiernan · Post by **Liam Tiernan** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:06 pm

alt final numbers( (50+5)*9 )-1=494

Ben Hunter · Post by **Ben Hunter** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:12 pm

who won, I just missed it

AnnieHall · Post by **AnnieHall** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:12 pm

I thought LIMONENES was in the Countdown dictionary? Unfortunately, I haven't got the one from my goodie bag in my house at the moment to check.

I let my nerves get the better of me, it all went downhill after I misread the "T" for a "C".
I never realised how nerve-wracking it is on there.

Karen Pearson · Post by **Karen Pearson** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:15 pm

I have also visited the chicken and chips greasy spoon that Richard Whiteley liked (as mentioned by Amanda Lamb today). It's in Sao Bras and I think it's called something like Luis Do Frango (Luis of the chicken). Because Richard had mentioned it on A Place In The Sun, when we were there, I insisted we visit it. We couldn't find it listed anywhere and ended up walking pretty much every street in Sao Bras till we found it.

To be honest, it wasn't that great but it was really cheap. I think we paid about £8 for two of us to have 2 courses plus drinks.

AnnieHall · Post by **AnnieHall** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:20 pm

Just googled LIMONENES- would it have been allowed or not, do you think?

"D-limonenes are not a new discovery; they were first used as cleaning agents nearly 30 years ago. Chlorinated solvents, however, have been the most widely-used cleaning chemicals for the past 25 years because they were inexpensive, effective and their use was unrestricted. "

Lesley Hines · Post by **Lesley Hines** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:28 pm

Marc Meakin wrote:
AnnieHall wrote:When I put all the words in a word solver after, I found LIMONENES for a 9 (Which Susie doesn't see) for round 7.
LIMONENE does not take an S in the dictionary Countdown uses

It's a shame as it's chiral, so it does have two different, mirror-imaged, forms (laevo- and dextro-, obviously), but it doesn't say anything about that in the definition so I doubt very much it would have been allowed.

Hurrah nominees stands then!

Helen James · Post by **Helen James** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:58 pm

Watching on Channel 4 + 1. PETTILY for round 9

James Robinson · Post by **James Robinson** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:30 pm

Alternative to 3rd numbers:

50 x 9 = 450, 7 + 1 = 8, 8 x 5 = 40, 450 + 40 + 4 = 494

Jon Corby · Post by **Jon Corby** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:32 pm

Ann(i)e, who was that fit little blonde sat next to your son?

AnnieHall · Post by **AnnieHall** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:11 pm

Nobody we know, sorry!

Gavin Chipper · Post by **Gavin Chipper** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:14 pm

I always think it's slightly poor form if someone gives a wrong answer that's nearly right and the presenter says something like "Ooh I'm afraid we can't allow that" (like what happened with the coundrum). Bob Wholenose used to always do that on Blockbusters.

Gavin Chipper · Post by **Gavin Chipper** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:15 pm

Ben Hunter wrote:who won, I just missed it

The chap.

Richard Priest · Post by **Richard Priest** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:48 pm

I was a bit surprised that when Anne declared a 'risky' word and Charlie a 'safe' one of the same length, Jeff went to Charlie for his word first when normally it's the 'risky' one that's asked for first (presumably to give Susie more time to check it).

Liam Tiernan · Post by **Liam Tiernan** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:24 am

Gavin Chipper wrote:I always think it's slightly poor form if someone gives a wrong answer that's nearly right and the presenter says something like "Ooh I'm afraid we can't allow that" (like what happened with the coundrum). Bob Wholenose used to always do that on Blockbusters.

But can you imagine the uproar there would have been if he had allowed it. What if it was crucial?

Jon Corby · Post by **Jon Corby** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:44 am

Liam Tiernan wrote:
Gavin Chipper wrote:I always think it's slightly poor form if someone gives a wrong answer that's nearly right and the presenter says something like "Ooh I'm afraid we can't allow that" (like what happened with the coundrum). Bob Wholenose used to always do that on Blockbusters.
But can you imagine the uproar there would have been if he had allowed it. What if it was crucial?

Yeah I wondered about that too. Some people just can't say certain words. I had a mate who used to say "progidy" instead of "prodigy", and no matter how many times I made him say it slowly or syllable by syllable, he just couldn't get the hang of it. We don't speak anymore.

So I did wonder if he actually did have the the answer but just can't say it? Maybe if it was important, filming could stop and he could write it down (while not looking at the letters) or something to prove that he did actually solve it?

Ian Fitzpatrick · Post by **Ian Fitzpatrick** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:13 am

The fact that entymology is a word but not THE word would sway it for me.

Jon Corby · Post by **Jon Corby** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:41 am

Ian Fitzpatrick wrote:The fact that entymology is a word but not THE word would sway it for me.

Ah, okay. I thought he more sort of stumbled and ended up saying something that sounded more like EM- than EN-. I didn't think he was clearly saying ENTYMOLOGY. But I did only watch it once.

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:03 pm

Jon Corby wrote:
Ian Fitzpatrick wrote:The fact that entymology is a word but not THE word would sway it for me.
Ah, okay. I thought he more sort of stumbled and ended up saying something that sounded more like EM- than EN-. I didn't think he was clearly saying ENTYMOLOGY. But I did only watch it once.

The fact that ENTYMOLOGY contains 10 letters would have swayed it for me.

Phil Reynolds · Post by **Phil Reynolds** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:10 pm

Ian Fitzpatrick wrote:The fact that entymology is a word

It isn't, but what he said was ENTOMOLOGY which is.

Anyway, I thought Gevin's point was that by hesitating and saying, "Ooh, no, I don't think we can allow that," (instead of just "No") Jeff was dropping a major hint that the correct answer was something very similar. In this instance it didn't matter because Anne didn't pick up on it, but in the general case it might have (literally) given the game away.

Phil Reynolds · Post by **Phil Reynolds** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:14 pm

Jon Corby wrote:Some people just can't say certain words. I had a mate who used to say "progidy" instead of "prodigy", and no matter how many times I made him say it slowly or syllable by syllable, he just couldn't get the hang of it.

Likewise some people always say "anenomes" instead of "anemones", as Amanda Lamb did yesterday.

Jon Corby · Post by **Jon Corby** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:22 pm

Marc Meakin wrote:
Jon Corby wrote:
Ian Fitzpatrick wrote:The fact that entymology is a word but not THE word would sway it for me.
Ah, okay. I thought he more sort of stumbled and ended up saying something that sounded more like EM- than EN-. I didn't think he was clearly saying ENTYMOLOGY. But I did only watch it once.
The fact that ENTYMOLOGY contains 10 letters would have swayed it for me.

I occasionally guess 10 letter answers to conundrums on apterous, there's nothing wrong with that!

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:32 pm

Phil Reynolds wrote:
Jon Corby wrote:Some people just can't say certain words. I had a mate who used to say "progidy" instead of "prodigy", and no matter how many times I made him say it slowly or syllable by syllable, he just couldn't get the hang of it.
Likewise some people always say "anenomes" instead of "anemones", as Amanda Lamb did yesterday.

My sister-in-law always said "stiff ticket" for certificate. Haven't seen her for a while since she moved to "have a swift whiff"

Michael Wallace · Post by **Michael Wallace** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:41 pm

Phil Reynolds wrote:
Jon Corby wrote:Some people just can't say certain words. I had a mate who used to say "progidy" instead of "prodigy", and no matter how many times I made him say it slowly or syllable by syllable, he just couldn't get the hang of it.
Likewise some people always say "anenomes" instead of "anemones", as Amanda Lamb did yesterday.

There was an 'article' about commonly mispronounced words in a newspaper a while back. Aha, I've found it. Some pretty staggering stuff.

The top 10 for people who cba to follow the link:

1. Phenomenon (fi-nom-uh-non)
2. Anaesthetist (uh-nes-thi-tist)
3. Remuneration (ri-myoo - nuh-reyshun)
4. Statistics (stuh-tis-tiks)
5. Ethnicity (eth-nis-i-tee)
6. Philosophical (fil-uh-sof-i-kuhl)
7. Provocatively (pruh-vok-uh-tiv)
8. Anonymous (uh-non-uh-muhs)
9. Thesaurus (thi-sawr-uhs)
10. Aluminium (al-yuh-min-ee-uhm)

As surprising as (almost) all of them are, I think it's 'statistics' that really makes it for me. What sort of mistakes do people make when saying that?

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:48 pm

I cannot believe how many people mispronounce "Ask".

Lesley Hines · Post by **Lesley Hines** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:02 pm

Michael Wallace wrote: 7. Provocatively (pruh-vok-uh-tiv)

As surprising as (almost) all of them are, I think it's 'statistics' that really makes it for me. What sort of mistakes do people make when saying that?

(Pruh-vok-uh-tiv-lee)?

Sta-sti-stics. Muppets

Michael Wallace · Post by **Michael Wallace** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:09 pm

Lesley Hines wrote:(Pruh-vok-uh-tiv-lee)?

Haha, well spotted (I hope it is obvious, but I just copy pastaed that list from the article, so it is indeed them cocking things up, awesomesauce).

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:17 pm

Michael Wallace wrote: 1. Phenomenon (fi-nom-uh-non)
2. Anaesthetist (uh-nes-thi-tist)
3. Remuneration (ri-myoo - nuh-reyshun)
4. Statistics (stuh-tis-tiks)
5. Ethnicity (eth-nis-i-tee)
6. Philosophical (fil-uh-sof-i-kuhl)
7. Provocatively (pruh-vok-uh-tiv)
8. Anonymous (uh-non-uh-muhs)
9. Thesaurus (thi-sawr-uhs)
10. Aluminium (al-yuh-min-ee-uhm)

"Nucular" and "perscription" are surely more common than these.

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:02 pm

And restaurateur with the added n

Phil Reynolds · Post by **Phil Reynolds** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:05 pm

The article is about words that people stumble over because they can be difficult to get your tongue round, and I'd certainly include statistics in this, since as a child I couldn't say it at all; even now, I can say it in isolation but sometimes trip over it in a sentence (I could never do Jon Briggs' job on Weakest Link, as I can't say "According to the statistics..." to save my life).

Words like prodigy and anemone, though, are surely rather different. These are words that aren't particularly tongue-twisting, but which huge numbers of people still get wrong for some reason. Charlie's nuclear ("noo-kew-lar") belongs to this category, as does my aforementioned mischievous ("miss-cheev-ous" or "miss-cheevy-ous") and possibly the most widespread of all - "perk you later" for percolator.

Gavin Chipper · Post by **Gavin Chipper** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:49 am

Phil Reynolds wrote:Anyway, I thought Gevin's point was that by hesitating and saying, "Ooh, no, I don't think we can allow that," (instead of just "No") Jeff was dropping a major hint that the correct answer was something very similar. In this instance it didn't matter because Anne didn't pick up on it, but in the general case it might have (literally) given the game away.

Yes - you thought correctly.

Sue Sanders · Post by **Sue Sanders** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:09 am

I've recently been on a couple of holidays where I'm accompanying blind people. The thing I always want to explain to people asking why I do it, is that it's very companionable. It's exactly the word I want to use, but it's always just a car crash in the middle of my sentence!

Brian Moore · Post by **Brian Moore** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:51 am

Charlie Reams wrote:
Michael Wallace wrote: 1. Phenomenon (fi-nom-uh-non)
2. Anaesthetist (uh-nes-thi-tist)
3. Remuneration (ri-myoo - nuh-reyshun)
4. Statistics (stuh-tis-tiks)
5. Ethnicity (eth-nis-i-tee)
6. Philosophical (fil-uh-sof-i-kuhl)
7. Provocatively (pruh-vok-uh-tiv)
8. Anonymous (uh-non-uh-muhs)
9. Thesaurus (thi-sawr-uhs)
10. Aluminium (al-yuh-min-ee-uhm)
"Nucular" and "perscription" are surely more common than these.

And "perogative". Always a good one for tripping up people who think they can spell.

Jon O'Neill · Post by **Jon O'Neill** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:41 pm

I've been an assistant statistician for two and a half years, and I still can't say it.

Gavin Chipper · Post by **Gavin Chipper** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:13 pm

Forget those long words; a lot of people I know can't say "new". (They say "noo".)

Davy Affleck · Post by **Davy Affleck** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:46 pm

Gavin Chipper wrote:Forget those long words; a lot of people I know can't say "new". (They say "noo".)

"noo" means now up here.

Many people who live in the Motherwell & Wishaw area say "pacifically" when they wean "specifically". It doesn't annoy me but I usually have a quiet chuckle to myself when it happens

Brian Moore · Post by **Brian Moore** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:48 pm

Gavin Chipper wrote:Forget those long words; a lot of people I know can't say "new". (They say "noo".)

Are you sure they're not saying gnu?

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:41 pm

Michael Wallace wrote:There was an 'article' about commonly mispronounced words in a newspaper a while back.

specially/especially, and temporarily/temporally