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Best conundrum

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:20 pm
by Charlie Reams
I think the most recent CoC had some of the nicest conundrums I've ever seen, including SEAPYTHON, FCRAVIOLA and (much as it pains me to admit) ELITEBOUT. The most recent finals also had some gems like NINECARAT and BADLYBEAT. Just wondering what other awesome ones you've seen (on the show or otherwise). Also I wonder how many people who watch even appreciate the craft that goes into making really nice ones like that.

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:29 pm
by James Robinson
Charlie Reams wrote:I think the most recent CoC had some of the nicest conundrums I've ever seen, including SEAPYTHON, FCRAVIOLA and (much as it pains me to admit) ELITEBOUT. The most recent finals also had some gems like NINECARAT and BADLYBEAT. Just wondering what other awesome ones you've seen (on the show or otherwise). Also I wonder how many people who watch even appreciate the craft that goes into making really nice ones like that.
I quite liked the one on my special against Lucy Guile.

As we were both from West Yorkshire, the conundrum was appropriately LEEDSTURF.

The people who sort these conundrums out must definitely take some serious thought into the process.

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:47 pm
by David O'Donnell
PEPSICOLA was probably my favourite of all time but I did like LETISSIER too.

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:50 pm
by Charlie Reams
A couple of other nice ones I've seen (can't remember where): SOURCHIVE, SETSQUARE, TOMCRUISE (think that was a series final).

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:06 pm
by James Robinson
I quite liked that one from I think it was last year where the jumbled-up word was GERANIUMS, which led to the contestant buzzing in to say GERANIUMS, although that would have been a bit too simple :!: :lol:

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:38 pm
by Kirk Bevins
I like anything where the scramble makes sense and is relevant, like the AMSPECIAL one in my semi final. ERACLOSES was a nice scramble but the answer is quite simple.

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:56 pm
by Michael Wallace
Kirk Bevins wrote:I like anything where the scramble makes sense and is relevant, like the AMSPECIAL one
I don't really understand how that's 'relevant', elucidate?

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:02 pm
by Chris Philpot
The grand finals over the years have held some absolutely cracking conundrums. MUMLEDFOX is fairly simple but a lovely image, whilst TEEUPLATE and RANDYBUSH are harder and again both connote great imagery. HITPARADE is an excellent scramble, albeit with a not so nice solution, whereas AGOALDOWN from Series 32 is absolutely scrumptious in every way.

Actually, a real couple of favourites of mine come from the Countdown calendar: the first from 2009, MMIXIDEAS, and later in the year the superb BELFASTUK. The latter had me going for hours!

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:03 pm
by Kirk Bevins
Michael Wallace wrote:
I don't really understand how that's 'relevant', elucidate?
Damian posted in another thread that he put that in the finals as it would refer to the contestants.

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:48 pm
by Phil Reynolds
Chris Philpot wrote:The grand finals over the years have held some absolutely cracking conundrums. MUMLEDFOX is fairly simple but a lovely image, whilst TEEUPLATE and RANDYBUSH are harder and again both connote great imagery. HITPARADE is an excellent scramble, albeit with a not so nice solution, whereas AGOALDOWN from Series 32 is absolutely scrumptious in every way.

Actually, a real couple of favourites of mine come from the Countdown calendar: the first from 2009, MMIXIDEAS, and later in the year the superb BELFASTUK. The latter had me going for hours!
I think the one in your avatar would probably come pretty near the top of any list I might compile.

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:02 pm
by Charlie Reams
Actually the real shuffle for that one (BIGPRONKS) is pretty damn clever in itself.

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:55 pm
by David O'Donnell
Charlie Reams wrote:A couple of other nice ones I've seen (can't remember where): SOURCHIVE, SETSQUARE, TOMCRUISE (think that was a series final).
SOURCHIVE was my scramble (so cheers) but don't think it's been on the show. Incidentally, neither Tom Hargreaves nor Julian Fell solved it but it made Craig's list. There was also a furore about it caused by Gevin, who is not unlike a cunt aside from being useless.

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:22 am
by David O'Donnell
Michael Wallace wrote:
Kirk Bevins wrote:I like anything where the scramble makes sense and is relevant, like the AMSPECIAL one
I don't really understand how that's 'relevant', elucidate?
I think Kirk is making immodest reference to his being special and he certainly is ...

... special school ...... special Olympics ... special yellow bus ... all spring to mind.

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:38 am
by Phil Reynolds
Phil Reynolds wrote:
Chris Philpot wrote:The grand finals over the years have held some absolutely cracking conundrums. MUMLEDFOX is fairly simple but a lovely image, whilst TEEUPLATE and RANDYBUSH are harder and again both connote great imagery. HITPARADE is an excellent scramble, albeit with a not so nice solution, whereas AGOALDOWN from Series 32 is absolutely scrumptious in every way.

Actually, a real couple of favourites of mine come from the Countdown calendar: the first from 2009, MMIXIDEAS, and later in the year the superb BELFASTUK. The latter had me going for hours!
I think the one in your avatar would probably come pretty near the top of any list I might compile.
I posted the above, shut down the computer, made a sandwich and headed upstairs to watch Psychoville - and realised as I did so that it would have been much funnier had I said, "The one in your avatar appears to be unbeatable". But hey, I can't be witty all the time.

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:22 am
by David O'Donnell
Phil Reynolds wrote: I posted the above, shut down the computer, made a sandwich and headed upstairs to watch Psychoville - and realised as I did so that it would have been much funnier had I said, "The one in your avatar appears to be unbeatable". But hey, I can't be witty any of the time.
I have taken the liberty of amending this for you, it was obviously typed in a hurry.

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:29 am
by Junaid Mubeen
I have to say I liked LEGALSIRS, as it was tough but fair. Not a word I use often or would even know to be valid, but certainly deducible. I'd much rather be beaten by this than, say, ELITEBOUT which I'd never heard of.

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:42 am
by Phil Reynolds
Junaid Mubeen wrote:I'd much rather be beaten by this than, say, ELITEBOUT which I'd never heard of.
Possibly you'd heard of it but forgotten it.

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:40 pm
by Kai Laddiman
Strange, I've been thinking about this recently before this thread.

I came up with some rather nice scrambles:

INTRIGUED (booooring)
CREATEDUS
RESTILGOE

Er, I've forgotten the rest.

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:17 pm
by Charlie Reams
Kai Laddiman wrote:Strange, I've been thinking about this recently before this thread.

I came up with some rather nice scrambles:

INTRIGUED (booooring)
CREATEDUS
RESTILGOE

Er, I've forgotten the rest.
You told me about COMEAGAIN when we were in Unit One (yes, I was in a bar with a kid, and yes I was grooming him), which is awesome, although I don't know if that was one of your own.

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:29 pm
by David O'Donnell
Junaid Mubeen wrote:I have to say I liked LEGALSIRS
I set this in a MSN online game (Corby versus Travers) with the scramble RILESSLAG.

Was thinking we should have a competition to see who can come up with the best original scramble - winner gets a Mars bar or some such.

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:08 pm
by Kai Laddiman
Charlie Reams wrote:
Kai Laddiman wrote:Strange, I've been thinking about this recently before this thread.

I came up with some rather nice scrambles:

INTRIGUED (booooring)
CREATEDUS
RESTILGOE

Er, I've forgotten the rest.
You told me about COMEAGAIN when we were in Unit One (yes, I was in a bar with a kid, and yes I was grooming him), which is awesome, although I don't know if that was one of your own.
Oh yeh, that was one of them, and yes I did make it up :D

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:08 pm
by Chris Philpot
Charlie Reams wrote:Actually the real shuffle for that one (BIGPRONKS) is pretty damn clever in itself.
I'll admit that I had to look up the definition of "pronk" but, having done so, it's absolutely fantastic. Ditto COMEAGAIN, actually. Of those which I have devised myself, I definitely discovered SETSQUARE at some point but am not sure if I ever set it as a conundrum back in the pre-Apterous MSN Countdown days. Another of my devising is SURETHING which is like Kai's in its immediate recognisability as a common phrase, but it lacks the lovely neither common prefixed nor common suffixed solution.

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:24 pm
by Gavin Chipper
Is it an unwritten rule that when people talk about conundrums they don't mention the solution?

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:28 pm
by Gavin Chipper
David O'Donnell wrote:SOURCHIVE was my scramble (so cheers) but don't think it's been on the show. Incidentally, neither Tom Hargreaves nor Julian Fell solved it but it made Craig's list. There was also a furore about it caused by Gevin, who is not unlike a cunt aside from being useless.
I don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Edit - I think I'm with you now. I think it's all made up and you were just being a twat. I know I'm at least half right.

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:33 pm
by Charlie Reams
Gavin Chipper wrote:Is it an unwritten rule that when people talk about conundrums they don't mention the solution?
Not any more.

FWIW it was me that devised SETSQUARE, although I remember Crispy posting that he solved it on 0.5 seconds. I'm sure I'm not the first, though.

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:46 pm
by Paul Howe
Of the ones I've created, NOPULSEDR, RUDEFARTS, COMBINERY and FANTHEISM are probably my favourites. Bit lacklustre compared to some of the above though.
Gavin Chipper wrote:
David O'Donnell wrote:SOURCHIVE was my scramble (so cheers) but don't think it's been on the show. Incidentally, neither Tom Hargreaves nor Julian Fell solved it but it made Craig's list. There was also a furore about it caused by Gevin, who is not unlike a cunt aside from being useless.
I don't have a clue what you're talking about.
It was me who failed to spot that and not Julian. And Gavin, your own personalised conundrum!








DREARYGAV

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:13 pm
by Gavin Chipper
Paul Howe wrote:DREARYGAV
SCOURPAUL

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:21 pm
by Matt Morrison
CHOKINVAG

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:25 pm
by Matt Morrison
^ scratch that...

UPTHEARSE

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:49 pm
by Chris Philpot
Matt Morrison wrote:UPTHEARSE
That is fabulous - I can only offer THIGHWANK in riposte.

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:56 pm
by Paul Howe
Matt Morrison wrote:^ scratch that...

UPTHEARSE
Supoib :mrgreen:
Gavin Chipper wrote:
SCOURPAUL
Touche. :geek: That the best you can manage in 30 minutes?

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:05 am
by Dinos Sfyris
I found EMMASCLIT last night

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:49 am
by Kirk Bevins
Dinos Sfyris wrote:I found EMMASCLIT last night
The first, and only, time.

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:03 am
by Dinos Sfyris
At least I don't have KIRKMANGE :P

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:29 am
by David O'Donnell
Kirk Bevins wrote:
Dinos Sfyris wrote:I found EMMASCLIT last night
The first, and only, time.
Sorry Dinos, mate, this made me LOL!

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:09 am
by Matt Morrison
some more I found (not all for words currently used as conundrums though):

BIGFATLEA

OIBOOBIES

ROSEYSLUT

DIRTYSACK

PENISTTUG

SMUTTYNOA (oops, stupid me... this one is a plural)

YETIBALLS

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:24 am
by Phil Reynolds
Matt Morrison wrote:some more I found (not all for words currently used as conundrums though)
:?: Surely a conundrum can be any valid nine-letter word - the only current exception I'm aware of is that -S plurals aren't used?

I was quite proud of my proposal of LEEDSLAST for the final conundrum of Series 60, though of course Damian's suggestion of LEEDSBOOT was even better.

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:49 am
by Matt Morrison
Phil Reynolds wrote:
Matt Morrison wrote:some more I found (not all for words currently used as conundrums though)
Surely a conundrum can be any valid nine-letter word - the only current exception I'm aware of is that -S plurals aren't used?
The whole list of nine letter words was hand-filtered by Charlie (and Sid, I think), cutting out about half of the total words as they were too tough to use as conundrums.

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:05 pm
by Gavin Chipper
Matt Morrison wrote:
Phil Reynolds wrote:
Matt Morrison wrote:some more I found (not all for words currently used as conundrums though)
Surely a conundrum can be any valid nine-letter word - the only current exception I'm aware of is that -S plurals aren't used?
The whole list of nine letter words was hand-filtered by Charlie (and Sid, I think), cutting out about half of the total words as they were too tough to use as conundrums.
It's not all about Apterous! There is also a programme known as "Countdown". ;)

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:37 pm
by James Robinson
Speaking of conundrums, has anyone seen this slightly weird Countdown related story from East Anglia :?:

http://www.edp24.co.uk/content/edp24/ne ... 3A31%3A080

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:54 pm
by Phil Reynolds
Matt Morrison wrote:
Phil Reynolds wrote:Surely a conundrum can be any valid nine-letter word - the only current exception I'm aware of is that -S plurals aren't used?
The whole list of nine letter words was hand-filtered by Charlie (and Sid, I think), cutting out about half of the total words as they were too tough to use as conundrums.
Image

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:34 pm
by Matthew Green
AIDSCUNTS

CHILDRAPE

WANKSTAIN

ARSEBLEED

FUCKGEESE

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:37 pm
by Charlie Reams
Phil Reynolds wrote:
Matt Morrison wrote:some more I found (not all for words currently used as conundrums though)
:?: Surely a conundrum can be any valid nine-letter word - the only current exception I'm aware of is that -S plurals aren't used?
And doubles, like CRAFTIEST/TRIFECTAS.

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:42 pm
by Matt Morrison
Phil Reynolds wrote:
Matt Morrison wrote:
Phil Reynolds wrote:Surely a conundrum can be any valid nine-letter word - the only current exception I'm aware of is that -S plurals aren't used?
The whole list of nine letter words was hand-filtered by Charlie (and Sid, I think), cutting out about half of the total words as they were too tough to use as conundrums.
Image
Image

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:02 pm
by Phil Reynolds
Charlie Reams wrote:
Phil Reynolds wrote:Surely a conundrum can be any valid nine-letter word - the only current exception I'm aware of is that -S plurals aren't used?
And doubles, like CRAFTIEST/TRIFECTAS.
Oh yeah, I was aware of (but had temporarily forgotten) that. Your example is an interesting one though. I'd assumed that a word like CRAFTIEST would be valid as a conundrum because its only anagram is a plural, which is invalid according to the other rule. (Also, of course, TRIFECTAS could be used as the scramble, like the notorious GERANIUMS incident.)

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:06 pm
by Charlie Reams
Phil Reynolds wrote:
Charlie Reams wrote:
Phil Reynolds wrote:Surely a conundrum can be any valid nine-letter word - the only current exception I'm aware of is that -S plurals aren't used?
And doubles, like CRAFTIEST/TRIFECTAS.
Oh yeah, I was aware of (but had temporarily forgotten) that. Your example is an interesting one though. I'd assumed that a word like CRAFTIEST would be valid as a conundrum because its only anagram is a plural, which is invalid according to the other rule. (Also, of course, TRIFECTAS could be used as the scramble, like the notorious GERANIUMS incident.)
The plurals rule isn't really a rule, Damian just doesn't like setting them.

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:43 pm
by Liam Tiernan
Matthew Green wrote:AIDSCUNTS

CHILDRAPE

WANKSTAIN

ARSEBLEED

FUCKGEESE
Matthew, seriously, get some help.

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:42 pm
by Chris Philpot
Matthew Green wrote:AIDSCUNTS

CHILDRAPE

WANKSTAIN

ARSEBLEED

FUCKGEESE
According to Lexplorer, none of these have valid solutions.

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:51 pm
by Dinos Sfyris
DEBIFLACK

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:30 pm
by Chris Philpot
I'm quite fond of SEEOURGIG, which I've just made up.

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:40 pm
by Phil Reynolds
Charlie Reams wrote:The plurals rule isn't really a rule
So we might see DINOSARSE one of these days?

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 5:37 pm
by Kai Laddiman
ALITEGAIN

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 5:41 pm
by Kai Laddiman
There's this guy at Callum's school called Kai Perry, and AKAIPERRY would be great for if he went on (which he wouldn't).

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 5:47 pm
by Kai Laddiman
Phil Reynolds wrote:
Charlie Reams wrote:The plurals rule isn't really a rule
So we might see DINOSARSE one of these days?
Or even CHEERSKAI

(Sorry for all of these, just playing with Zyzzyva)

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 5:56 pm
by Kai Laddiman
KAIMETERS
SCROTEKAI
KAISQUEER
KAISTENSE
LISTENKAI
KAISMENUS
KAISURONE
KAISSTORE

And a plural (but I had to include it for the comedy value):

KAISSHITE

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:34 pm
by Kai Laddiman
TIMETRIAL

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:17 pm
by Eoin Monaghan
Kai Laddiman wrote:TIMETRIAL
LITERATIM

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:03 pm
by Chris Philpot
How about a nice Countdown themed one?

MYTEAPOTS

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:52 pm
by Kai Laddiman
Nominations for best?

Re: Best conundrum

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:55 pm
by Kai Laddiman
INDATCUBE
BREADCUBE
OANDCUBES
SNORTCUBE