Apterous Summer Open

Mark Harrison · Post by **Mark Harrison** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:48 pm

peter lee wrote:Hi I would like to enter the U1200 and the open if possible. Thanks Peter Lee

What he said. Except for the 'Peter Lee' part.

Paul Erdunast · Post by **Paul Erdunast** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 5:25 pm

Please also enter me into the 1200 category

Simon Myers · Post by **Simon Myers** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:03 pm

I'd like to enter the U1200 and Open categories please.

Kevin Davis · Post by **Kevin Davis** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:32 pm

I would be in...but you maniacs have scheduled this tourney to begin on the day I go to Cuba.

Gack!

Innis Carson · Post by **Innis Carson** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:17 pm

I'd like to enter if I can, I might not be around much in the first week or so but I'll do my best.

Phil Collinge · Post by **Phil Collinge** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:39 am

Put me in U1000 please.

James Leroux · Post by **James Leroux** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:38 pm

I'd like to enter the U800 division, please.

Marcus Hares · Post by **Marcus Hares** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:37 am

I would also like to take part - my rating has just gone over 1200 but could quite easily dip below again between now and the start of the tournament so please put me in the appropriate category/categories when you have finalised your line-ups.

Thank you,
Marcus

Martin_May · Post by **Martin_May** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 5:23 pm

Hmmmmm sounds like fun. Count me in the Open bit if you please!!

D Eadie · Post by **D Eadie** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:55 am

Would like to take part, but its Fathers Day on Sunday so can't make 12 noon games - can only play in the evening after 7pm really. Not bothered what group, maybe the retard section?

Andrew Feist · Post by **Andrew Feist** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:01 am

D Eadie wrote:Would like to take part, but its Fathers Day on Sunday so can't make 12 noon games - can only play in the evening after 7pm really. Not bothered what group, maybe the retard section?

You've got a whole week to play your match, so as long as your opponent has read this then we're fine.

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:06 am

If it's not too late, I'll go for the open as well Andrew. I thought at first the open was just for players too good to take part in any of the "under-xxx" tourneys, but seems to be for everyone, so, yeah, please.

Phil Collinge · Post by **Phil Collinge** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:00 am

Phil Collinge wrote:Put me in U1000 please.

Please could you also put me in U1200.

Henry Meier · Post by **Henry Meier** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:42 pm

Go on then, I'll have a bash at the Open too please

James Doohan · Post by **James Doohan** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:19 pm

Simon Myers wrote:I'd like to enter the U1200 and Open categories please.

Same please

Liam Tiernan · Post by **Liam Tiernan** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:28 pm

Liam Tiernan wrote:You can add my name to the list for the u1000.

You'd better put me in for the u1200 too since I'm currently hovering near the 1000 mark.

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:46 pm

If it is not too late I would like to enter the open division

It will probaby be the only way the likes of Charlie and Kirk will play me, plus since burning the soup today I need a wooden spoon

JayMurphy · Post by **JayMurphy** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:47 am

Count me in (+ g) for the U1200 (although not too sure how well I'll do since I hover around the 1000 mark). Can I have a shot at the Open too please?

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:54 am

marc meakin wrote:It will probaby be the only way the likes of Charlie and Kirk will play me

Have you ever challenged me?

Andrew Feist · Post by **Andrew Feist** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:46 am

Andrew Feist · Post by **Andrew Feist** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:48 am

Fun fact: If we kicked off with the field as it is right now, round 1 would feature Kirk Bevins vs Neil Zussman.

Howard Somerset · Post by **Howard Somerset** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:58 am

Andrew Feist wrote: ...
The field for the U800:
Adam Dexter|724
Maxine Silkstone|722
Ian Dent|665
James Leroux|662
Steve Rogers|461

...
The U1000 currently has 8 and the U800 currently has 5 (+ maybe Howard Somerset). If the U1000 stays at 8, we'll split that up into two pools of four and do RR+crossover (so the top two from each pool will play their counterparts on the other side). If the U800 gets to 8 it will do the same; if it's at six, then it's straight round robin (and that way Howard can make up his games as necessary).
...

I'm very happy with this arrangement, so long as the others in the U800 competition are too. Though it might be better to play some of my games in advance rather than in arrears. I'll await the final details, and if it does work like this, I'll then make arrangements with the other players.

Many thanks.

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:31 am

I've posted an advert for this on the Apterous news page. Dunno why I didn't think of that before.

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:50 am

Charlie Reams wrote:
marc meakin wrote:It will probaby be the only way the likes of Charlie and Kirk will play me
Have you ever challenged me?

Yes several times,although I admit that I am a bit impatient, and sometimes retract challenges when someone else is available
I also am unsure of etiquette when challenging people
Should I ask first, in the chat area rather than just challenge in the usual way

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:33 pm

marc meakin wrote: I also am unsure of etiquette when challenging people
Should I ask first, in the chat area rather than just challenge in the usual way

I would just challenge away, that's what the system is there for. If I decline or ignore a challenge it normally means I'm logged in but working on the site, but generally I try to point this out in the chat window.

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:07 pm

Charlie Reams wrote:
marc meakin wrote: I also am unsure of etiquette when challenging people
Should I ask first, in the chat area rather than just challenge in the usual way
I would just challenge away, that's what the system is there for. If I decline or ignore a challenge it normally means I'm logged in but working on the site, but generally I try to point this out in the chat window.

That seems fair, thanks

Barry Evans · Post by **Barry Evans** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:13 pm

U1200 for me please!

J.Levison · Post by **J.Levison** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:30 pm

I'm already in the u1000, but would like a bash at the open event to if possible please?

Oliver Garner · Post by **Oliver Garner** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:55 pm

If it is a 32-man knock-out, can there be a plate/bowl/shield/whatever is after those for the people who don't win their first/second/third etc matches and have matches to decide any position.

tomrowell · Post by **tomrowell** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:02 pm

Can i be put in the open section as well??

Andrew Feist · Post by **Andrew Feist** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:23 pm

To clarify, you will play five games in every section you've registered for. With two extra people in the open, this means that we will be using accelerated pairings, so Neil and/or Kirk can breathe a sigh of relief.

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:58 pm

Andrew Feist wrote:To clarify, you will play five games in every section you've registered for. With two extra people in the open, this means that we will be using accelerated pairings, so Neil and/or Kirk can breathe a sigh of relief.

Just out of interest, how are you generating the Swiss pairings?

Andrew Feist · Post by **Andrew Feist** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:26 pm

It will be using standard Swiss pairings (accelerated in the open). I've got, somewhere, my USCF TD card so I'm supposed to be able to pair a full-sized tournament in ten minutes using just two twigs, a piece of pocket lint, a hairpin, some index cards, and a pen. I was reminded recently about tsh, so I'll look at that again (when I first looked at it, it was very good at tournaments that had way too many rounds like Scrabble tends to do -- 40 players in a 25-round "Swiss" -- and completely atrocious at normal tournaments).

Edit: Looked at it again, and I've got Swiss working. No idea what I'd done wrong the first time. I'll see if it will handle accelerated pairings.

Edit edit: No, tsh is pretty broken when it comes to Swiss, but it's broken in a completely predictable way (it reseeds players every round based on their margin of victories in the tournament, as opposed to, you know, their rating). I'll probably send a note to Mr. Chew, but I'll just do this one on cards. I like cards.

Phil Collinge · Post by **Phil Collinge** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:51 pm

Please can you enter Supee Juachan in the U800

(I've forgotten her damn password)

Julie Russell · Post by **Julie Russell** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:37 am

Can I enter for u1000 and the open event please?

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:10 am

Ben Ziek is having some account troubles but would like to be in the Open and the U800 tourneys please.

Gregor Morgan · Post by **Gregor Morgan** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:46 am

Count me in for the U800 please. Cheers.

jason turner · Post by **jason turner** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:48 pm

if not too late, could i be entered for the U1000 tourny please

thanks a bundle

ja

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:42 pm

Another on-behalf-of entry: Andy Kravis for the Open and U1200.

Ross Allatt · Post by **Ross Allatt** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:33 pm

Yeah, I'd like to take part. Not entirely sure about all the comps. Can I enter both the Open and the U1200?

Oh, I might be too late. Sorry - don't go into the forum much, nor it seems do I pay any attention to notices on the site

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:15 pm

Ross Allatt wrote:Yeah, I'd like to take part. Not entirely sure about all the comps. Can I enter both the Open and the U1200?

Oh, I might be too late. Sorry - don't go into the forum much, nor it seems do I pay any attention to notices on the site

Don't worry, I think today is the final today for entries, not yesterday as the site says - Charlie himself has made a couple of entries on behalf of other people today.

Richard Priest · Post by **Richard Priest** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:34 pm

Put me in for the open event please.

Andrew Feist · Post by **Andrew Feist** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:49 pm

Ross Allatt wrote:Yeah, I'd like to take part. Not entirely sure about all the comps. Can I enter both the Open and the U1200?

Oh, I might be too late. Sorry - don't go into the forum much, nor it seems do I pay any attention to notices on the site

Yeah you're fine; anybody who registers today is in.

Currently we're at 39 in the open, 25 in U1200, 10 in U1000, and 9 in U800.

Jeff Clayton · Post by **Jeff Clayton** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:32 pm

I'll have a go at the U1200 please.

Jeff

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:29 pm

Lesley Hines also please. Presumably just the Open, since I haven't heard otherwise.

Andrew Feist · Post by **Andrew Feist** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:04 am

Alright, at the moment we've got 40 in the open, 26 in the U1200, 10 in the U1000, and 8 in the U800 (without Howard) (sorry Howard). That means extras who try to register late (i.e., today) I can only take in pairs, except in the open, where I would need another four to take anybody in.

Andrew Feist · Post by **Andrew Feist** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:27 am

Oh and as it's a common question, here's the Wikipedia description of a Swiss system tournament (also including description of accelerated pairings). The Open will use accelerated Swiss, the U1200 will use just plain Swiss, and the U1000 and U800 will use pool play + crossover (unless they get to 12 over the course of today).

Lesley Hines · Post by **Lesley Hines** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:16 am

Charlie Reams wrote:Lesley Hines also please. Presumably just the Open, since I haven't heard otherwise.

I'd rather go in the the U1200 if I've got a choice but I realise I'm being an utter pain in the arse now so I'm quite happy to go where you put me

Thanks very much - pleased to be taking part!

Howard Somerset · Post by **Howard Somerset** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:40 am

Andrew Feist wrote:Alright, at the moment we've got 40 in the open, 26 in the U1200, 10 in the U1000, and 8 in the U800 (without Howard) (sorry Howard).

No worries. Hope the tournament goes well. And hope that the next one takes place at a time when I can compete.

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:19 am

Just got a U1000 application from Peter Crawley, so hopefully we can find the other half of a pair for him.

Andrew Feist · Post by **Andrew Feist** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 3:38 pm

Charlie Reams wrote:Just got a U1000 application from Peter Crawley, so hopefully we can find the other half of a pair for him.

I'm not in any of the sections yet, so if we don't find anyone I can probably fill in the gap (I'd prefer 12 to 10 anyway). If we can find someone for the open (or another someone in U1200) we can move Lesley around.

EDIT: Given Mr Crawley's rating, I'm thinking he's ineligible for U1000. I've put him in U1200 for now and done all the necessary rejigging.

Niall Seymour · Post by **Niall Seymour** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 4:25 pm

I'm happy to get involved in the open as well, but only if it makes the organisation easier; don't let my entry make it harder.

Andrew Feist · Post by **Andrew Feist** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 4:38 pm

Alright, I've taken myself out of the U1000 to get back down to 10, Peter and Lesley are in U1200 making that 28, and Niall in the open brings us back up to 40 there.

Marcus Hares · Post by **Marcus Hares** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 6:23 pm

I'd like to be put in the Open category as well as the U1200 if it's not too late... thank you

Andrew Feist · Post by **Andrew Feist** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:30 pm

Marcus Hares wrote:I'd like to be put in the Open category as well as the U1200 if it's not too late... thank you

Unfortunately we'd need quite a few more to get you in the open.

Registration is now closed, while I spend the next few hours crying about my performance in the google puzzle championships. First round matchups in 3.5 hours.

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:41 pm

Andrew Feist wrote:
Marcus Hares wrote:I'd like to be put in the Open category as well as the U1200 if it's not too late... thank you
Unfortunately we'd need quite a few more to get you in the open.

Registration is now closed, while I spend the next few hours crying about my performance in the google puzzle championships. First round matchups in 3.5 hours.

Excitement!! Let me know if you want me to link anything from apterous.

Ben Wilson · Post by **Ben Wilson** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:43 pm

Andrew Feist wrote:Alright, at the moment we've got 40 in the open, 26 in the U1200, 10 in the U1000, and 8 in the U800 (without Howard) (sorry Howard).

Awesome work Andrew. Can't wait for the start of the tournament!

Andrew Feist · Post by **Andrew Feist** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:36 pm

Charlie Reams wrote: Excitement!! Let me know if you want me to link anything from apterous.

I was planning a forum topic for each week's worth of games (each to last a week, etc.). Those may well have a link to somewhere where I'll post an HTML standings table, given what we've learned about tables in the league thread. (I suppose I can send you the HTML too, if you want to host it. You may have to do some massaging, or I should pay more attention to your CSS.)

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:34 pm

Thanks again for doing all this Andrew. Nice when people contribute to the community so soon after appearing on Da Seen. Had to stop myself following that up with "unlike that piece of shit xxx xxx" hehe

I'm fucking excited. The thought of this has been keeping me going through one of my most boring Saturday nights in recent memory - just half an hour more to wait. For some reason I feel like it's going to be far more exhilarating to lose in a tournament than lose under normal conditions!