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Where Have The Greats Gone?

Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 6:16 pm
by Douglas Wilson
I've just spent a few minute browsing the apterous players list, apterous forum and also the forum for events such as COLIN and COBRIS. What struck me was how little some former greats such as Gallen, Shore, Tourneoff and Travers are involved in the Countdown community these days.

I was just wondering if anybody knew if this is down to other commitments such as family/work/studying or if they feel that they have achieved all they can in the game by appearing (and in Gallen's case winning) CoC?

My main reason for wondering as it seems a big contrast to the likes of Charlie, Junaid, Corby etc who's passion for the game seems to have if anything intensified since achieving all they can on the TV version.

Re: Where Have The Greats Gone?

Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 10:26 pm
by Kirk Bevins
Douglas Wilson wrote:I've just spent a few minute browsing the apterous players list, apterous forum and also the forum for events such as COLIN and COBRIS. What struck me was how little some former greats such as Gallen, Shore, Tourneoff and Travers are involved in the Countdown community these days.

I was just wondering if anybody knew if this is down to other commitments such as family/work/studying or if they feel that they have achieved all they can in the game by appearing (and in Gallen's case winning) CoC?

My main reason for wondering as it seems a big contrast to the likes of Charlie, Junaid, Corby etc who's passion for the game seems to have if anything intensified since achieving all they can on the TV version.
Out of the first four you list only Travers frequented these forums. I think he still has an interest in Countdown but has generally moved on. I think it would be hard for me to move on easily. Tournoff and Gallen still post but extremely rarely (and hardly ever posted so it's not as if their posting numbers have decreased) and I'm not even Shore knows this place exists.

Re: Where Have The Greats Gone?

Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 11:38 pm
by Richard Priest
Kirk Bevins wrote:I'm not even Shore knows this place exists.
Nice :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Where Have The Greats Gone?

Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 4:35 pm
by David O'Donnell
Mark has entered a couple of tourneys but I don't think he likes the online play too much; Conor is bound to be sick of Countdown by now, and; Paul is a seriously good Scrabble player and has thusly been converted by the good book.

Re: Where Have The Greats Gone?

Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 4:38 pm
by Charlie Reams
David O'Donnell wrote:Mark has entered a couple of tourneys but I don't think he likes the online play too much; Conor is bound to be sick of Countdown by now, and; Paul is a seriously good Scrabble player and has thusly been converted by the good book.
Indeed, Paul would've been playing in the World Scrabble Championship but apparently he's busy with exams. He's still Northern Ireland champ though.

Re: Where Have The Greats Gone?

Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 4:48 pm
by Kirk Bevins
Rich Priest wrote:
Kirk Bevins wrote:I'm not even Shore knows this place exists.
Nice :lol: :lol: :lol:
Haha I had to read it three or four times before I realised why you were laughing. I wish I was good with wordplay.

Re: Where Have The Greats Gone?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 12:57 pm
by Paul Gallen
I still read the forum but don't watch the programme anymore so it's difficult for me to contribute to most threads!
I watched the programme for about a month after I had finished recording the C of C and it was clear that the motivation and enjoyment for the game had gone. Watching it was becoming a chore and it was clear to me at that point, a few years ago, that my heart wasn't in it anymore. In the 10 years that I watched the programme, the motivation was to get on the programme and now that is not present anymore. I've enjoyed my time watching the show but Scrabble was something that I had been putting off for years due to the dictionary differences - now the enjoyment I got out of Countdown has been rekindled in Scrabble. Furthermore, now Collins is my main dictionary, polluting myself with Oxford words would not be a good idea!
Also, I put in a lot of work for the C of C over a continuous period of two years and I think that I exhausted what I could do. I realise that others have continued to play Countdown but it is not for me in my experience.

I am currently doing my solicitor training at the moment so I start to doubt whether I have the time to keep going with Scrabble also! Not being able to go to WSC 2009 is a disappointment but hopefully I can go another time in the future.

Paul

Re: Where Have The Greats Gone?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 2:30 pm
by Ben Wilson
Paul Gallen wrote:Furthermore, now Collins is my main dictionary, polluting myself with Oxford words would not be a good idea!
Apterous has a Collins mode you know. ;) Good to hear from you, though- will you be at the BMSC?

Re: Where Have The Greats Gone?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 7:56 pm
by Jojo Apollo
Paul Gallen wrote:I still read the forum but don't watch the programme anymore so it's difficult for me to contribute to most threads!
I watched the programme for about a month after I had finished recording the C of C and it was clear that the motivation and enjoyment for the game had gone. Watching it was becoming a chore and it was clear to me at that point, a few years ago, that my heart wasn't in it anymore. In the 10 years that I watched the programme, the motivation was to get on the programme and now that is not present anymore.

Paul
Real shame to hear that Paul. Would have liked to have seen you compete against the likes of Chris Davies and Kirk on apterous.

Seems to happen to a lot of the greats, they retire early, become disinterested etc. Maybe it becomes too intense, like a good gunfighter, everyone is out to gun you down and the enjoyment factor goes, who knows (certainly not me lol).

ps. Are the Scrabble tournaments ever televised?

Re: Where Have The Greats Gone?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 9:12 pm
by Malcolm James
Ben Wilson wrote:Seems to happen to a lot of the greats, they retire early, become disinterested etc.
I think they call it "getting a life".

Re: Where Have The Greats Gone?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 9:13 pm
by Kirk Bevins
Malcolm James wrote:
I think they call it "getting a life".
What - by playing competitive Scrabble? Hmm...

Re: Where Have The Greats Gone?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 10:46 pm
by Jon O'Neill
Kirk Bevins wrote:
Malcolm James wrote:
I think they call it "getting a life".
What - by playing competitive Scrabble? Hmm...
Hahaha, excellent.

Re: Where Have The Greats Gone?

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 12:49 am
by Craig Beevers
Jojo Apollo wrote:Are the Scrabble tournaments ever televised?
For a brief period around 15 years ago Scrabble was on the BBC. In USA one of the events was televised for a while (think it was the best-of-5 part of the nationals), including one incident when one of the finalists played LEZ and the match was halted for a while before it was decided that the move was to be retaken as the word was on the ESPN's naughty word list.

Re: Where Have The Greats Gone?

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 7:33 am
by Malcolm James
Kirk Bevins wrote:What - by playing competitive Scrabble? Hmm...
Clearly some people wouldn't know a life if it got up and hit them on the nose.

Re: Where Have The Greats Gone?

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 1:52 pm
by Ben Hunter
Craig Beevers wrote:
Jojo Apollo wrote:Are the Scrabble tournaments ever televised?
For a brief period around 15 years ago Scrabble was on the BBC. In USA one of the events was televised for a while (think it was the best-of-5 part of the nationals), including one incident when one of the finalists played LEZ and the match was halted for a while before it was decided that the move was to be retaken as the word was on the ESPN's naughty word list.
They've missed a trick there. Everyone would watch televised scrabble if naughty words kept coming up.
Malcolm James wrote:
Kirk Bevins wrote:What - by playing competitive Scrabble? Hmm...
Clearly some people wouldn't know a life if it got up and hit them on the nose.
Wow what a tyrant. If someone wants to spend their life playing scrabble let them.

Re: Where Have The Greats Gone?

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 4:56 pm
by Jojo Apollo
Craig Beevers wrote:
Jojo Apollo wrote:Are the Scrabble tournaments ever televised?
For a brief period around 15 years ago Scrabble was on the BBC. In USA one of the events was televised for a while (think it was the best-of-5 part of the nationals), including one incident when one of the finalists played LEZ and the match was halted for a while before it was decided that the move was to be retaken as the word was on the ESPN's naughty word list.
Cheers Craig. They should try televising it again, maybe a speed version like speed chess.

ps. hopefully we will see you take on the apterous Dons: Kirk and Chris Davies in the 15 rounds format, sometime in the future. Could be some classic matches. :)