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Longest word with no anagrams

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 5:08 pm
by Adam Dexter
My challenge is, to find the longest word that has no anagrams (excluding 1/2 letter anagrams)

For example:

Duck, 3 letters, has 1 anagram using any letters.

CUD

My highest is 6 letters.. any beaters?

Re: Longest word with no anagrams

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 5:17 pm
by Phil Reynolds
Adam Dexter wrote:Duck, 3 letters, has 1 anagram using any letters.

CUD
Sorry, don't get this at all. DUCK has 4 letters, not 3. And CUD isn't an anagram of DUCK.

Do you mean find the longest word from which no other words of three letters or more can be made?

Re: Longest word with no anagrams

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 5:23 pm
by Adam Dexter
Phil Reynolds wrote:
Adam Dexter wrote:Duck, 3 letters, has 1 anagram using any letters.

CUD
Sorry, don't get this at all. DUCK has 4 letters, not 3. And CUD isn't an anagram of DUCK.

Do you mean find the longest word from which no other words of three letters or more can be made?
Yes I do. I knew my phrasing was confusing, which was why I included the example. However, this hasn't seemed to work. Although you do now understand, so maybe it did! :D

Re: Longest word with no anagrams

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 5:29 pm
by David Roe
GRRRL for 5, maybe? Or is GRR in there?

Re: Longest word with no anagrams

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 5:49 pm
by Adam Dexter
David Roe wrote:GRRRL for 5, maybe? Or is GRR in there?
Well you can pluralise that! Erm GRR is not in the OED (well not mine anyway, but mine is a concise one). Hmmm.... I was thinking of a non-pluralised word anyway :P

Re: Longest word with no anagrams

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 5:57 pm
by Kai Laddiman
Oooh, RELATIONS doesn't have any I don't think.

Re: Longest word with no anagrams

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:02 pm
by Martin Gardner
If you mean absolutely no sub-words, I think the Scrabble solution to this is SYZYGY. In French it's XYLOL. This one is a bit better, although it's one letter shorter you can play without a blank. So on the first move, if you have WXYLOLQ the best play is XYLOL for 66 - not only that, it's the only word possible, they only other plays are to play it in the four other possible positions (or nine if you count horizontal and vertical separately).

Re: Longest word with no anagrams

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:23 pm
by Adam Dexter
Martin Gardner wrote:If you mean absolutely no sub-words, I think the Scrabble solution to this is SYZYGY. In French it's XYLOL. This one is a bit better, although it's one letter shorter you can play without a blank. So on the first move, if you have WXYLOLQ the best play is XYLOL for 66 - not only that, it's the only word possible, they only other plays are to play it in the four other possible positions (or nine if you count horizontal and vertical separately).
Congrats. SYZYGY was my word. That took approx 54 mins from OP. Too easy methinks.

Re: Longest word with no anagrams

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:23 pm
by Adam Dexter
Kai Laddiman wrote:Oooh, RELATIONS doesn't have any I don't think.
I hope you are joking.. ORIENTALS for a perfect solve. ;)

Re: Longest word with no anagrams

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:33 pm
by Phil Reynolds
CYCLIC.

Re: Longest word with no anagrams

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:43 pm
by Neil Zussman
Phil Reynolds wrote:CYCLIC.
Icy.

The best I could come up with was QUICK. (Unless ICK is a word). I thought of MUUMUU as well, but umm, I don't think that's allowed. I think I'm right in saying that, as well as being longer, Syzygy is also better than Quick in that it doesn't contain any 2-letter sub-word anagrams either. Quick is the longest countdown-valid word though :D (so far, anyway).

Re: Longest word with no anagrams

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:45 pm
by Phil Reynolds
Neil Zussman wrote:
Phil Reynolds wrote:CYCLIC.
Icy.
Well done Zussman - I was wondering which of you'd spot that one first. :|

Re: Longest word with no anagrams

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:47 pm
by Neil Zussman
Phil Reynolds wrote:
Neil Zussman wrote:
Phil Reynolds wrote:CYCLIC.
Icy.
Well done Zussman - I was wondering which of you'd spot that one first. :|
Have you cloned me without me knowing? :(

Re: Longest word with no anagrams

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:06 pm
by Phil Reynolds
VOODOO.

Re: Longest word with no anagrams

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:10 pm
by Simon Myers
David Roe wrote:GRRRL for 5, maybe? Or is GRR in there?
GRRRL is in (no GRR), but there's also GRRL.
Neil Zussman wrote:
Phil Reynolds wrote:CYCLIC.
Icy.

The best I could come up with was QUICK. (Unless ICK is a word). I thought of MUUMUU as well, but umm, I don't think that's allowed. I think I'm right in saying that, as well as being longer, Syzygy is also better than Quick in that it doesn't contain any 2-letter sub-word anagrams either. Quick is the longest countdown-valid word though :D (so far, anyway).
QUICK - ICK is Countdown-valid.
SYZYGY is valid in Countdown (though currently the letters distribution renders it impossible to come out).
MUUMUU has sub-words MUM, UHM.

Re: Longest word with no anagrams

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:05 pm
by Martin Gardner
Yeah if you exclude two letter words you can get longer than six, IMO. I'm too tired to be bothered now.

Re: Longest word with no anagrams

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:18 pm
by Ben Hunter
Adam Dexter wrote:
Kai Laddiman wrote:Oooh, RELATIONS doesn't have any I don't think.
I hope you are joking.. ORIENTALS for a perfect solve. ;)
You got out-humoured by a 12 year old 8-)

Re: Longest word with no anagrams

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:24 pm
by Adam Dexter
Ben Hunter wrote:
Adam Dexter wrote:
Kai Laddiman wrote:Oooh, RELATIONS doesn't have any I don't think.
I hope you are joking.. ORIENTALS for a perfect solve. ;)
You got out-humoured by a 12 year old 8-)
Oh well... Just realised the double negative in his post... therefore meaning that he does think it does... so why post that on this thread? Oh well... I'll just go and hang myself.

Re: Longest word with no anagrams

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:35 am
by Ben Hunter
Adam Dexter wrote:Oh well... Just realised the double negative in his post... therefore meaning that he does think it does...
The double negative doesn't have much to do with it, it's more the fact that everyone who plays Countdown knows that RELATIONS = ORIENTALS = TENSORIAL.
so why post that on this thread?
To cheer people up.
Oh well... I'll just go and hang myself.
Cheer up.

Re: Longest word with no anagrams

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:58 am
by Adam Dexter
Ben Hunter wrote: The double negative doesn't have much to do with it, it's more the fact that everyone who plays Countdown knows that RELATIONS = ORIENTALS = TENSORIAL.
Oh... I didn't know that it's an anagram of TENSORIAL... :'(

Now I feel like a cretin.

Re: Longest word with no anagrams

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:42 am
by Phil Reynolds
Adam Dexter wrote:Now I feel like a cretin.
You're in luck - there's quite a few here for you to choose from.

Re: Longest word with no anagrams

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:36 pm
by Michael Wallace
Ben Hunter wrote:
Oh well... I'll just go and hang myself.
Cheer up.
Don't you mean 'chin up' (to get his head into the noose)?

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