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Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:10 pm
by Ben Hunter
Kirk has already smashed numerous Countdown records this week: most maxes in a game (15/15), highest ever challenger score (127) and most shirt buttons left undone (lots). Can he smash the big 146 today?

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:14 pm
by Michael Wallace
Ben Hunter wrote:and most shirt buttons left undone (lots).
I'm glad it wasn't just me who noticed that.

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:33 pm
by Paul Howe
I think he wants us to call him Kirkules.

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:24 pm
by Ben Hunter
"Next up on channel 4, the Kirkulator takes on a TV quiz master, in Countdown."

I like how they even mention him in the idents. I've a feeling this is going to be an awesome game.

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:28 pm
by tomrowell
i already want him to smash the old man to bits

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:29 pm
by tomrowell
come on kirk thats an easy 9

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:30 pm
by Ben Hunter
The old man looks awesome, leave him be.

Nice letters, you could tell straight away there was a nine in there.

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:31 pm
by Ben Wilson
alas looks like the 36-0 after 2 rounds is off. :(

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:32 pm
by Ben Hunter
BEHOVE, excellent spot by the challenger.

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:34 pm
by Ben Wilson
No DILDOS for Kirk then.

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:35 pm
by Ben Hunter
Kirk strikes back with DALASIS! What a game...

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:35 pm
by tomrowell
is that the first letters game he has been beaten in?

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:36 pm
by Matt Morrison
Ben Hunter wrote:The old man looks awesome, leave him be.
Nice letters, you could tell straight away there was a nine in there.
My thoughts entirely. I went for PREDATION myself, but with utter trepidation compared to Kirk's confidence. Ha!
Kirk's sending a lot of gazes and nods the audience's way, I'm guessing Charlie saw Kirk's first five games at least?

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:38 pm
by Ben Hunter
tomrowell wrote:is that the first letters game he has been beaten in?
Yep. Think the old guy heard you...

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:44 pm
by tomrowell
yes, i will take full responsibility for kirk being beaten there. i will make sure im nicer to the challenger tomorrow

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:45 pm
by Ben Hunter
Another nine is on! Will Kirk get it...

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:46 pm
by Ben Hunter
Ten! This game rules.

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:46 pm
by tomrowell
he is on for a massive score now :D

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:47 pm
by Ben Hunter
Oh God, another nine on the cards. Please get it...

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:48 pm
by tomrowell
and another!

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:48 pm
by Matt Morrison
this has to be the record. insane.

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:49 pm
by Ben Hunter
Matt Morrison wrote:this has to be the record. insane.
Four nines is the record, but this is still fucking top drawer.

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:50 pm
by tomrowell
has anyone ever got a century before the 2nd break?

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:51 pm
by Matt Morrison
Ben Hunter wrote:
Matt Morrison wrote:this has to be the record. insane.
Four nines is the record, but this is still fucking top drawer.
Yeah, realised that. Was thinking of the 146! Though certainly equalling four nines isn't out of the question by a long way either.

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:52 pm
by Matt Morrison
Did the 4 nines record and the 146 come hand-in-hand?

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:52 pm
by Ben Hunter
Matt: yep.
tomrowell wrote:has anyone ever got a century before the 2nd break?
Checked Julian Fell's 146, and he had 94 before the break. Kirk has every chance of getting the record here.

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:53 pm
by Matt Coates
damn, that behove has cost Kirk the highest score, he needs at least another 9 to break the record

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:53 pm
by Ben Hunter
Shitty numbers, hope Kirk can get it.

EDIT: oh, it was easier than I thought, lol.

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:54 pm
by tomrowell
well he should be getting that record then

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:55 pm
by Ben Wilson
tomrowell wrote:has anyone ever got a century before the 2nd break?
No. Chalk another record to the Bevatron.

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:56 pm
by Paul Howe
Needs the letters to play ball, he'll need another 9 on the letters to beat it or 8-8-8 to equal. C'mon Kirky!

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:00 pm
by Ben Hunter
First 8, coming up.

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:02 pm
by Matt Morrison
these look tough, can't see better than OPACITY myself.

EDIT: feared as much. Here's hoping for a 9 next round...

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:05 pm
by tomrowell
what did i tell you about him! picking 4 big ones to spoil his score!

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:06 pm
by Ben Hunter
Wonder why quizmaster stung him with 4 large? Tom, you were right!

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:07 pm
by tomrowell
its a good job he wasn't on for the record..........

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:09 pm
by Paul Howe
He's bottled it :twisted: :roll:

Seriously though that was quality stuff, and I'm pleased for Peter to get the conundrum once the record was gone as he seems like a top bloke.

It was quite agonising in the AIRDATES round as it looked as if the 9 would be there, but slowly deflated as I couldn't spot it and was praying for Kirk to see something I'd missed.

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:16 pm
by Howard Somerset
Well done once again, Kirk. Didn't quite make the 147, but you're easily on target for the 925. What's more, your opponent today was the image of one of my old schoolteachers. If I hadn't calculated that he'd now be well over 100, I'd have been convinced it'd been him.

Great play, Kirk. I look forward to what's still in store for us.

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:16 pm
by Jojo Apollo
Very well played Kirk, shame about not getting the record score. But tomorrow is another day as they say.

ps. I get the feeling you want to lay one on Dr Phil at some point for trying to wind you up :lol: ;)

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:20 pm
by AnnieHall
What a brilliant player Kirk is!
I feel sorry for his opponents!
Pleased to say I did get the conundrum straight away!

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:22 pm
by Julie T
tomrowell wrote:what did i tell you about him! picking 4 big ones to spoil his score!
Exactly what I thought. Arsehole! :(
Still, Kirk didn't get the conundrum, so the nos round didn't make huge difference.

130 total, and yet another record broken of over a century before the second break. Awesome, Kirky! :D :D

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:32 pm
by JackHurst
What a shame that he missed the conumdrum, still would have been the second highest of all time if my sources are right.

There were at least 17 extra points that he could have picked up throughout the show, still an outstanding performance.

It was also nice to see him mentioning apterous, i wonder if they will let him refer to it by its name tomorrow.

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:32 pm
by Allan Harmer
Awesome once again Kirk.

It's great to watch a master a work!

Let's hopefully see a few more records go on the way.

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:42 pm
by Phil Reynolds
Michael Wallace wrote:
Ben Hunter wrote:and most shirt buttons left undone (lots).
I'm glad it wasn't just me who noticed that.
No, it wasn't just you. :|

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:47 pm
by Matt Coates
Kirk needs to average 111 in his next 4 games to beat the 924 record

and he has already averaged 120 in the first 4 games.

c'mon Kirky

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:55 pm
by Phil Reynolds
How would you use UNCREATES?

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:00 pm
by Matt Morrison
Phil Reynolds wrote:How would you use UNCREATES?
Although I didn't spot it, I did know the word, and as far as I know it means to force something out of existence, to undo its creation, i.e. annihilate, make extinct.

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:08 pm
by Phil Reynolds
Matt Morrison wrote:
Phil Reynolds wrote:How would you use UNCREATES?
Although I didn't spot it, I did know the word, and as far as I know it means to force something out of existence, to undo its creation, i.e. annihilate, make extinct.
Hmm. Sounds dodgy to me - to destroy something isn't usually the reverse of the act of creating it. That's like having "unbirth" as a synonym for death. I'm not doubting that it's in the dictionary, just unconvinced that it deserves a place there (especially when a word in common use like "courters" is excluded).

In the round where Kirk got AIRDATES, I was expecting Peter to spot DISASTER which (from his perspective) would have been fairly apt.

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:11 pm
by Matt Morrison
Phil Reynolds wrote:
Matt Morrison wrote:
Phil Reynolds wrote:How would you use UNCREATES?
Although I didn't spot it, I did know the word, and as far as I know it means to force something out of existence, to undo its creation, i.e. annihilate, make extinct.
Hmm. Sounds dodgy to me - to destroy something isn't usually the reverse of the act of creating it. That's like having "unbirth" as a synonym for death. I'm not doubting that it's in the dictionary, just unconvinced that it deserves a place there (especially when a word in common use like "courters" is excluded).
Totally with you, I agree (and even Kirk mentioned) that it's a horribly constructed word.
I think it's less to destroy, more to obliterate to extinction. You could uncreate a species by wiping it out, but I don't think you could uncreate your neighbour's shed.
I also went for COURTERS yesterday. Bloody dictionaries, eh?

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:17 pm
by Charlie Reams
Phil Reynolds wrote:That's like having "unbirth" as a synonym for death. I'm not doubting that it's in the dictionary, just unconvinced that it deserves a place there (especially when a word in common use like "courters" is excluded).
At first glance I would agree with you, but really this illustrates why dictionaries used to be really shit before the advent of statistical linguistics. Every one of us has a distorted view of which words are common because we've read such a tiny fraction of all the text that's out there to read (and in any case are inately weak at estimating relative probabilities.) To illustrate this is in a totally rigorous way, I'll point out that COURTER returns 268K Google hits, whereas UNCREATE has 307K, with comparable results for the various inflections. So I think they got this one right.

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:27 pm
by Phil Reynolds
Charlie Reams wrote:COURTER returns 268K Google hits, whereas UNCREATE has 307K, with comparable results for the various inflections.
Yeah, well, you can prove anything with facts can't you?

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:27 pm
by Martin Gardner
What an unbelievable game. I think it's a bit shitty to go for four large when your opponent is on for a massive score like that. I'm also really surprised he didn't get the conundrum. At first I thought it was LUNDERING until I realised I only needed to move one letter to make it right.

Incredible drama, maybe Kirk will get another shot at the record, but he'll be lucky to have a game with a max that big again.

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:37 pm
by Ben Hunter
Phil Reynolds wrote:
Charlie Reams wrote:COURTER returns 268K Google hits, whereas UNCREATE has 307K, with comparable results for the various inflections.
Yeah, well, you can prove anything with facts can't you?
I'm not interested in facts, I find they tend to cloud my judgement.

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:38 pm
by Martin Gardner
Rachel Riley on today's show wrote:Dunno about fighting, but I'm definitely fit.
IAWTP

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:43 pm
by Jimmy Gough
Julie T wrote:
tomrowell wrote:what did i tell you about him! picking 4 big ones to spoil his score!
Exactly what I thought. Arsehole! :(
Yeah, I mean how dare he choose what numbers to pick to try and reduce his defecit? Wanker.

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:45 pm
by Julie T
Jimmy Gough wrote:
Julie T wrote:
tomrowell wrote:what did i tell you about him! picking 4 big ones to spoil his score!
Exactly what I thought. Arsehole! :(
Yeah, I mean how dare he choose what numbers to pick to try and reduce his defecit? Wanker.
But the only thing that matters is our Kirky! ;)

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:48 pm
by Martin Gardner
Jimmy Gough wrote:
Julie T wrote:
tomrowell wrote:what did i tell you about him! picking 4 big ones to spoil his score!
Exactly what I thought. Arsehole! :(
Yeah, I mean how dare he choose what numbers to pick to try and reduce his defecit? Wanker.
No I'd choose one or two large there. If he's 19 behind then obviously he's gotta try and win, but he's nearly 100 behind! The only immediate example I can think of, is in professional baseball if a pitcher's got a perfect game going in the late innings, you don't try and bunt for a hit, you try and get a clean hit. I remember there was a little bit of controversy a few years ago when a player bunted for a hit and made it, but the score was onl 2-0 and clearly you've got to try and win in that situation. But if it's 12-0 I think you've got to give the guy a fighting chance.

I suspect this is not a very useful example, given the popularity of the sport in this country. Jason, if you're reading this, what are the Mariners like this year?

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:54 pm
by Michael Wallace
I think people may forget that to most contestants, the idea of records and massive scores and whatever don't really cross their mind. I was in the "oh my god what a bastard" camp until CF started looking at me funny - now I've thought about it I think it's a fairly reasonable thing to do.

Great game Kirk - when that R popped out in the first round I was already excited (well, I was excited just before it popped out too - it is entirely possible I went a bit Deal or No Deal and started shouting "R! R! R!").

Man, I am *so* cool.

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:05 pm
by Paul Howe
Jeez, leave Peter alone. He's allowed to pick what he wants, and I thought he played the game in a great spirit considering the clobbering he was taking.

Re: Spoilers for Thu 05/03/2009

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:07 pm
by Phil Reynolds
Four games in, and we've already had women wanting to have Kirk's babies, men drooling over glimpses of his naked chest and Charlie seduced by his sexy wink. Is Kirk setting yet another record - the most sexually stimulating contestant ever?

Incidentally, this reminds me: Kirk accused me in aptochat a couple of weeks ago of saying on this board that I (a) fancy Charlie but (b) don't fancy him. I have absolutely no recollection of saying any such thing and can find no evidence for having done so, though I'm happy to be proved wrong. In any case, I would like to say here and now, for the record, that at least one of those statements is untrue.