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Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 8:37 pm I've never seen anyone being timed out for delaying their declaration length before. I remember once previously (years ago) someone was agonising over it and said something like "Can't the other geezer declare first?" and the host (probably Whiteley) was like "Nah, mate - this is how it's done". The delay time would have been longer than today but he wasn't booted from the round. It seemed very harsh to me.

Edit - Just looking now. Colin says "Peter" at 11:11 to 11:12. Peter starts going "Er..." at 11:14 (so about 2 seconds delay). Colin says "Need a number" at 11:15. Peter starts saying "I'll risk" at 11:15 also (overlapping a bit with Colin), delays a bit and is timed out at 11:17. The delay that gets him timed out is less than a second. I think it was unnecessarily harsh personally.

Fiona T wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:40 am

Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 8:37 pm I've never seen anyone being timed out for delaying their declaration length before. I remember once previously (years ago) someone was agonising over it and said something like "Can't the other geezer declare first?" and the host (probably Whiteley) was like "Nah, mate - this is how it's done". The delay time would have been longer than today but he wasn't booted from the round. It seemed very harsh to me.

Edit - Just looking now. Colin says "Peter" at 11:11 to 11:12. Peter starts going "Er..." at 11:14 (so about 2 seconds delay). Colin says "Need a number" at 11:15. Peter starts saying "I'll risk" at 11:15 also (overlapping a bit with Colin), delays a bit and is timed out at 11:17. The delay that gets him timed out is less than a second. I think it was unnecessarily harsh personally.

I agree - didn't seem like an undue delay and I was really surprised he wasn't allowed to declare. I suppose the small comfort is that he was going to declare his dodgy 9, so didn't affect scores.

David Williams wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 1:52 pm

Fiona T wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:40 am

Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 8:37 pm I've never seen anyone being timed out for delaying their declaration length before. I remember once previously (years ago) someone was agonising over it and said something like "Can't the other geezer declare first?" and the host (probably Whiteley) was like "Nah, mate - this is how it's done". The delay time would have been longer than today but he wasn't booted from the round. It seemed very harsh to me.

Edit - Just looking now. Colin says "Peter" at 11:11 to 11:12. Peter starts going "Er..." at 11:14 (so about 2 seconds delay). Colin says "Need a number" at 11:15. Peter starts saying "I'll risk" at 11:15 also (overlapping a bit with Colin), delays a bit and is timed out at 11:17. The delay that gets him timed out is less than a second. I think it was unnecessarily harsh personally.

I agree - didn't seem like an undue delay and I was really surprised he wasn't allowed to declare. I suppose the small comfort is that he was going to declare his dodgy 9, so didn't affect scores.

I've always been on the other side of this question. People who ponder and then go "Hmm, I'll go for a risky seven". You don't get thinking time in addition to your 30 seconds. For all we know you didn't have anything. No hesitation at any time as far as I'm concerned.

Incidentally, when C2 needed a seven and had the unlikely ROACHED, why on earth didn't he risk it?

Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 3:54 pm

David Williams wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 1:52 pm

Fiona T wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:40 am

I agree - didn't seem like an undue delay and I was really surprised he wasn't allowed to declare. I suppose the small comfort is that he was going to declare his dodgy 9, so didn't affect scores.

I've always been on the other side of this question. People who ponder and then go "Hmm, I'll go for a risky seven". You don't get thinking time in addition to your 30 seconds. For all we know you didn't have anything. No hesitation at any time as far as I'm concerned.

Incidentally, when C2 needed a seven and had the unlikely ROACHED, why on earth didn't he risk it?

I'd say the 30 seconds is to find words, not to decide on your declaration. After all, the person declaring second can base their decision on the length of the first declaration, and that clearly isn't decided within the 30 seconds. But primarily, I'd say the problem is that there's no precedent for it, and as far as I know, no reason to suspect he would be timed out (unless new instructions have been given). Agonising over declarations has always been a thing.

But yeah, should have gone for ROACHED.

Countdown Team wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 8:42 pm Happily stand by the decision to time him out.
Once the clock is over, it's over - and he stretched things a little too far.
I wasn't Colin's decision, he's told by the producer.