Co:Liv III - Saturday 15 February 2025

[Andy Platt]

DATE: Saturday 15 February 2025

LOCATION: Cross Keys pub, 13 Earle Street, L3 9NS.
It's the same place as both last year and back in 2019.
The room can fit 36, maybe 39 or 42 at a push.

FORMAT: Edinburgh/Lincoln style, six 9-rounder games played in tables of three.
The top two ranked players after six games will play the final.

SCHEDULE:
- Doors open at 12 for a 12:20 draw and 12:30 start to the first round of games
- Aiming for 13:30 for buffet lunch which will be included in your entry price
- Then 14:30 for the second round of games
- 15:40 for the third round of games
- Aiming for 16:50 for the final and 17:15 for prizes and wrap-up
- Plans afterwards to be confirmed but I have a few ideas in mind.

PRIZES AVAILABLE:
- Trophies for first, second and third place finishes
- Fun prizes for most conundrums, best word, and rudest word.

PayPal - £12 to https://paypal.me/CoLiv2019/12GBP (the year is correct - it won't let me update the link!)

Facebook event created now and there are 26 fully paid entrants so far as of 12 February plus a couple of reserves.

If anyone needs directions, hotel advice, etc., then let me know. The nearest train station is Moorfields. James Street is quite close as well.

Woop woop get hype.

[David Harrison]

Hope to be able to make it again. Will send money when I’m sure!

[Tracey Anne Mills]

DATE: Saturday 15 February 2025

LOCATION: Cross Keys pub, 13 Earle Street, L3 9NS.
It's the same place as both last year and back in 2019.
The room can fit 36, maybe 39 or 42 at a push.

FORMAT: Edinburgh/Lincoln style, six 9-rounder games played in tables of three.
The top two ranked players after six games will play the final.

SCHEDULE:
- Doors open at 12 for a 12:20 draw and 12:30 start to the first round of games
- Aiming for 13:30 for buffet lunch which will be included in your entry price
- Then 14:30 for the second round of games
- 15:40 for the third round of games
- Aiming for 16:50 for the final and 17:15 for prizes and wrap-up
- Plans afterwards to be confirmed but I have a few ideas in mind.

PRIZES AVAILABLE:
- Trophies for first, second and third place finishes
- Fun prizes for most conundrums, best word, and rudest word.

PayPal - £12 to https://paypal.me/CoLiv2019/12GBP (the year is correct - it won't let me update the link!)

Facebook event created now and there are 15 fully paid entrants so far as of 21 January.

If anyone needs directions, hotel advice, etc., then let me know. The nearest train station is Moorfields. James Street is quite close as well.

Woop woop get hype.

Draw Anthony Endsor a map

[Andy Platt]

Is anyone thinking about coming but holding back for any reason? Cheers

[JackHurst]

Is anyone thinking about coming but holding back for any reason? Cheers

Just did a 3 tourney weekeneder @ CoLin and I am still recovering. Also it's the day after valentines day and I didn't want to bugger off to the other end of the country to leave my partner alone.

[Andy Platt]

Is anyone thinking about coming but holding back for any reason? Cheers

Just did a 3 tourney weekeneder @ CoLin and I am still recovering. Also it's the day after valentines day and I didn't want to bugger off to the other end of the country to leave my partner alone.

Fair play -- I think I will try for summer next year, if there is room.

[Adam S Latchford]

Is anyone thinking about coming but holding back for any reason? Cheers

Just did a 3 tourney weekeneder @ CoLin and I am still recovering. Also it's the day after valentines day and I didn't want to bugger off to the other end of the country to leave my partner alone.

could have brought her, nothing says romantic like some sweet sweet consonants

[Andy Platt]

Standings
Players are ranked by number of wins then total points scored.

Played Wins Points
1 Dylan Taylor 6 6 405
2 Tim Hebbes 6 5 365
3 Matt O'Connor 6 5 351
4 Thomas Carey 6 5 338
5 Adam Latchford 6 4 363
6 Stephen Read 6 4 344
7 Coral Heath 6 4 321
8 Adrian Fletcher 6 4 314
9 George Armstrong 6 3 382
10 Jason Cullen 6 3 365
11 Dan Byrom 6 3 361
12 Phil Stanton 6 3 323
13 Matthew Rutherford 6 3 310
14 Darren Godfrey 6 3 301
15 Lju Lazarevic 6 3 284
16 Steven Grady 6 3 270
17 Matty Artell 6 3 241
18 Kevin Nelson 6 2 303
19 Sean Fletcher 6 2 283
20 Euan Crabb 6 2 275
21 Jane Peet 6 2 272
22 Jeremy Phillips 6 2 259
23 Annie Gallagher 6 2 236
24 Alan Jones 6 2 232
25 Jay Roberts 6 2 186
26 Colin Peet 6 1 157
27 Joe Henry 6 0 198

Results
Round 1
Table 1
Jane Peet 56 - 58 Stephen Read
Stephen Read 46 - 44 Adam Latchford
Adam Latchford 54 - 37 Jane Peet
Table 2
Colin Peet 31 - 61 Kevin Nelson
Kevin Nelson 59 - 55 Phil Stanton
Phil Stanton 51 - 19 Colin Peet
Table 3
Matthew Rutherford 44 - 72 Dan Byrom
Dan Byrom 59 - 31 Annie Gallagher
Annie Gallagher 40 - 60 Matthew Rutherford
Table 4
Dylan Taylor 61 - 43 Adrian Fletcher
Adrian Fletcher 37 - 47 Thomas Carey
Thomas Carey 33 - 66 Dylan Taylor
Table 5
Euan Crabb 27 - 56 Matty Artell
Matty Artell 43 - 49 Lju Lazarevic
Lju Lazarevic 63 - 46 Euan Crabb
Table 6
Darren Godfrey 32 - 61 Alan Jones
Alan Jones 48 - 66 Sean Fletcher
Sean Fletcher 44 - 61 Darren Godfrey
Table 7
Jeremy Phillips 41 - 44 Jay Roberts
Jay Roberts 13 - 62 Coral Heath
Coral Heath 55 - 41 Jeremy Phillips
Table 8
George Armstrong 75 - 51 Jason Cullen
Jason Cullen 62 - 72 Tim Hebbes
Tim Hebbes 72 - 65 George Armstrong
Table 9
Joe Henry 33 - 49 Steven Grady
Steven Grady 35 - 58 Matt O'Connor
Matt O'Connor 52 - 36 Joe Henry

Round 2
Table 1
Dan Byrom 57 - 72 Dylan Taylor
Dylan Taylor 74 - 47 Tim Hebbes
Tim Hebbes 57 - 54 Dan Byrom
Table 2
Coral Heath 47 - 41 Lju Lazarevic
Lju Lazarevic 53 - 49 Kevin Nelson
Kevin Nelson 37 - 64 Coral Heath
Table 3
Stephen Read 73 - 62 Sean Fletcher
Sean Fletcher 32 - 70 Matt O'Connor
Matt O'Connor 67 - 57 Stephen Read
Table 4
Alan Jones 16 - 53 Phil Stanton
Phil Stanton 37 - 61 George Armstrong
George Armstrong 70 - 38 Alan Jones
Table 5
Matty Artell 17 - 73 Adam Latchford
Adam Latchford 53 - 59 Matthew Rutherford
Matthew Rutherford 47 - 51 Matty Artell
Table 6
Steven Grady 34 - 58 Thomas Carey
Thomas Carey 65 - 56 Darren Godfrey
Darren Godfrey 57 - 50 Steven Grady
Table 7
Jason Cullen 62 - 29 Jane Peet
Jane Peet 63 - 31 Jay Roberts
Jay Roberts 36 - 60 Jason Cullen
Table 8
Adrian Fletcher 57 - 54 Euan Crabb
Euan Crabb 59 - 33 Jeremy Phillips
Jeremy Phillips 43 - 58 Adrian Fletcher
Table 9
Joe Henry 37 - 42 Colin Peet
Colin Peet 24 - 42 Annie Gallagher
Annie Gallagher 58 - 28 Joe Henry

Round 3
Table 1
Matt O'Connor 66 - 63 Coral Heath
Coral Heath 30 - 66 Dylan Taylor
Dylan Taylor 66 - 38 Matt O'Connor
Table 2
Stephen Read 64 - 36 Lju Lazarevic
Lju Lazarevic 42 - 67 Tim Hebbes
Tim Hebbes 50 - 46 Stephen Read
Table 3
Thomas Carey 63 - 56 Dan Byrom
Dan Byrom 63 - 47 George Armstrong
George Armstrong 64 - 72 Thomas Carey
Table 4
Adam Latchford 78 - 50 Kevin Nelson
Kevin Nelson 47 - 69 Jason Cullen
Jason Cullen 61 - 71* Adam Latchford
Table 5
Annie Gallagher 41 - 49 Matty Artell
Matty Artell 25 - 62 Adrian Fletcher
Adrian Fletcher 57 - 24 Annie Gallagher
Table 6
Darren Godfrey 40 - 57 Phil Stanton
Phil Stanton 70 - 72 Matthew Rutherford
Matthew Rutherford 28 - 55 Darren Godfrey
Table 7
Euan Crabb 41 - 47 Jane Peet
Jane Peet 40 - 50 Sean Fletcher
Sean Fletcher 29 - 48 Euan Crabb
Table 8
Jay Roberts 30 - 24 Colin Peet
Colin Peet 17 - 60 Steven Grady
Steven Grady 42 - 32 Jay Roberts
Table 9
Jeremy Phillips 51 - 42 Joe Henry
Joe Henry 22 - 37 Alan Jones
Alan Jones 32 - 50 Jeremy Phillips

[Andy Platt]

Best fishing = Adrian Fletcher won a copy of the Angling Times by picking for 'filigree'.
Best word = Darren Godfrey won a puzzle book for spotting the nine 'aromatics'.
Conundrums = Dan Byrom won a puzzle book for spotting five out of six conundrums.
Rudest word = Stephen Read won a mug with the letters UNT on it for 'shitlist'.

[Fiona T]

Be good to include the final in the results

[Gavin Chipper]

Be good to include the final in the results

This always used to be a problem. I thought there had been some Atropine update so it automatically came out in the dump. Who won is probably the main thing.

[Fiona T]

Final -

Dylan Taylor 74 - 40 Tim Hebbes

Congrats Dylan

[Graeme Cole]

Be good to include the final in the results

This always used to be a problem. I thought there had been some Atropine update so it automatically came out in the dump. Who won is probably the main thing.

Atropine has always included the final in the exported text/html/whatever results, for as long as I can remember.

However, entering the final into Atropine in the first place is very often not bothered with. From the organiser's point of view, at the end of the event it's less important to create a whole new round for the final and enter that result, than to enter the other results. And when it's time to export the results as text and paste them into C4C, it's easy to forget that the final isn't there.

Not sure how we can mitigate that other than a warning on the results export page reminding the user "Was there a final? If so, you haven't entered the result."

[Fiona T]

Be good to include the final in the results

This always used to be a problem. I thought there had been some Atropine update so it automatically came out in the dump. Who won is probably the main thing.

Atropine has always included the final in the exported text/html/whatever results, for as long as I can remember.

However, entering the final into Atropine in the first place is very often not bothered with. From the organiser's point of view, at the end of the event it's less important to create a whole new round for the final and enter that result, than to enter the other results. And when it's time to export the results as text and paste them into C4C, it's easy to forget that the final isn't there.

Not sure how we can mitigate that other than a warning on the results export page reminding the user "Was there a final? If so, you haven't entered the result."

The final was entered into atropine (I saw it on the event page), so no idea what happened there. Andy?

[Graeme Cole]

This always used to be a problem. I thought there had been some Atropine update so it automatically came out in the dump. Who won is probably the main thing.

Atropine has always included the final in the exported text/html/whatever results, for as long as I can remember.

However, entering the final into Atropine in the first place is very often not bothered with. From the organiser's point of view, at the end of the event it's less important to create a whole new round for the final and enter that result, than to enter the other results. And when it's time to export the results as text and paste them into C4C, it's easy to forget that the final isn't there.

Not sure how we can mitigate that other than a warning on the results export page reminding the user "Was there a final? If so, you haven't entered the result."

The final was entered into atropine (I saw it on the event page), so no idea what happened there. Andy?

You're right, it was, at 17:44.

In that case, I'm not sure why it hasn't shown up in the output pasted above. Even if you select "show positions before final" that option only affects the displayed standings table. It still includes the final in the exported results.

[Gavin Chipper]

Be good to include the final in the results

This always used to be a problem. I thought there had been some Atropine update so it automatically came out in the dump. Who won is probably the main thing.

Atropine has always included the final in the exported text/html/whatever results, for as long as I can remember.

However, entering the final into Atropine in the first place is very often not bothered with. From the organiser's point of view, at the end of the event it's less important to create a whole new round for the final and enter that result, than to enter the other results. And when it's time to export the results as text and paste them into C4C, it's easy to forget that the final isn't there.

Not sure how we can mitigate that other than a warning on the results export page reminding the user "Was there a final? If so, you haven't entered the result."

It's possible I imagined the update thing. But you could have that warning thing anyway. I also think the winner of the event should get top billing. Instead of having to scroll down to the bottom, it should say right at the top "John won the event" and if there was a final "beating Cuthbert in the final 98-73". I've never found the results dump satisfactory for this reason.

[Andy Platt]

[George Armstrong]

Blog post now on the FOCAL website, words by Maus - https://focalcountdown.com/2025/02/22/h ... -to-coliv/