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OCK AYE!! WE’RE COMING BACK NORTH OF THE BORDER!!!

With no event in Scotland since early 2019, it certainly has felt very English (with a touch of Irish) centric, but I’m delighted to announce the rebirth of COEDI, or Countdown in Edinburgh!!!

Venue:
Our venue is the New Melville Bridge Club just to the west of Edinburgh city centre. The address is 1 Pinkhill, Edinburgh, EH12 7BA. (For a look yourselves, go here) It is right next to a bus stop, which has many different services from Edinburgh city centre.

General Overview:
Presented by James Robinson (yes, I'm flying solo for the first time), using the "Lincoln" format (yes, another first for me) and playing along with big screen virtual studio graphics at the end of the day:

As with all Lincoln style events, players will be put 3 to a table, with one person hosting the other 2, and everyone flipping around, so that everyone has a go at hosting. That will happen on three occasions, then a grand final will happen in front of all the attendees.

Prices/Rates:
COEDI will take place on Saturday 15 October -- doors open at 10am for a prompt 11am start, finishing at around 5:45-6pm. The admission price is set at £10. We also hope to have the bar open like we did last time, which has some nice treats available at very reasonable costs, more on that when I have it fully confirmed.

We also intend on having a meal at COSMO Edinburgh on the Saturday night at 7:30, into on the restaurant is here: https://www.cosmo-restaurants.co.uk/res ... _edinburgh

As per usual, payments are available:
- By PayPal (https://www.paypal.me/JRTerrier7/10) (DON'T FORGET - Choose the "Family/Friends" option on payment.);
- By phone (0781 775 0544);
- By cheque (address available on request).

Confirmed Attendees (31):
Steven Grady
Adam Beach
Euan Crabb
Paul Craib
Darren Godfrey
George Armstrong
Michael Armstrong
Fiona Titcombe
Tom Carey
Matt Gould
Callum Todd
Nathan Pace
Mike Springett
Stewart Gordon
Shareen Ahmed
Natalie McCluskey
Eddie McCullagh
Sean Fletcher
Phil Hannan
Damian McEvoy
Conor Travers
Vicci Smith
Colin Peet
Jane Peet
Iain Sime
Ikenna Oguguo
Fred Whibley
Zubair Patel
Chloe Jones
Piaras Carney
Alan Young

Stick me down as a possible for now, haven't submitted my permission slip just yet

This looks like the parkrun

https://www.parkrun.org.uk/oriam/course/

Got changing facilities and toilets, but 4.5 miles from event so would probs need to taxi

Parkruns start at 9.30am in Scotland right? Could be a bit of a dash to get to the event in time but sure we can manage it.

As well as Oriam (which is way out to the west of the city), there are Edinburgh, Portobello, Holyrood Park (quite new), but all similarly a few miles from the venue.

Well, we’re now heading into the final SEVEN DAYS!!!

So, I thought I’d give a few more details about the little intricacies of next Saturday.

Firstly, we will not be serving lunch at the venue, but there is a Subway and a Sainsbury’s within 10 minutes walk of the venue.

There will be a bar open at the venue, but alcohol can’t be served until noon, as that’s Scottish rules. Also, it will be contactless only, so no cash, please.

The event will start at 11am, giving the Parkrunners extra time to sort themselves out, as they don’t start until 9:30am, I believe.

Lunch will be a 1 hour period from when the last table finishes their first round games, although if your table finishes earlier, feel free to sort yourselves out.

There will be a quiz during lunch, which I’m hoping might be a hybrid…, more on that later.

Speaking of hybrids, I’m intending on making this event the first Lincoln/Bristol hybrid event, where we’ll have a Bristol-style final phase. Again, more on that next week.

But, I’m looking forward to seeing you all next week, this should be a fantastic tournament!!

James Robinson wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 1:00 pm Speaking of hybrids, I’m intending on making this event the first Lincoln/Bristol hybrid event, where we’ll have a Bristol-style final phase. Again, more on that next week.

Wait, what?

By "Bristol-style final phase" you don't mean splitting the standings table up into divisions after a small number of games and then playing finals stages within each division, do you? My impression is that this divisioned system, common at Bristol-style events, does not enjoy widespread support for reasons extensively discussed before.

I don't know if it's my place to speak up here as I'm not attending the event - I've been to Edinburgh events before but couldn't make the date this time. However, if I were one of the 28 entrants who had paid for entry, accommodation and transport expecting something like COLIN, as the main post has described for months, and then a week before the event I read an announcement that instead it's going to have a "Bristol-style final phase" that sounds very much like that divisioned thing, I'd feel a bit cheated, like I'd fallen for a bait-and-switch.

Have I incorrectly assumed what "Bristol-style final phase" means?

He might just mean that the two people in the final play the same game as each other.

Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 2:20 pm He might just mean that the two people in the final play the same game as each other.

Joking aside, I did wonder if it was just an unusually-worded way of saying "the final between the top two will have the selections put on the big screen".

Graeme Cole wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 2:35 pm

Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 2:20 pm He might just mean that the two people in the final play the same game as each other.

Joking aside, I did wonder if it was just an unusually-worded way of saying "the final between the top two will have the selections put on the big screen".

That's very much what I'm hoping it means!

Edit - from original post

James Robinson wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:14 pm As with all Lincoln style events, players will be put 3 to a table, with one person hosting the other 2, and everyone flipping around, so that everyone has a go at hosting. That will happen on three occasions, then a grand final will happen in front of all the attendees.

Which sounds just like the events I enjoy most, and having the grand final on a big screen sounds like a good idea

Ian Volante wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 12:13 pm As well as Oriam (which is way out to the west of the city), there are Edinburgh, Portobello, Holyrood Park (quite new), but all similarly a few miles from the venue.

At least one person (Colin Peet) is intending to do Holyrood. I'm sticking with Oriam cos a) it's right by my hotel, b) I'm meeting a friend to do Holyrood the following week, and c) I need an O for my alphabet!

But guess it depends where people are staying - if you're central, Holyrood may well be easier.

I'm happy to do Oriam. Will run there from my accomodation (near venue) and make use of the changing facilities afterwards. Do you have a plan for getting to the venue from there after Fiona? Happy to share a taxi with you if buses aren't an option.

Callum Todd wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:23 pm I'm happy to do Oriam. Will run there from my accomodation (near venue) and make use of the changing facilities afterwards. Do you have a plan for getting to the venue from there after Fiona? Happy to share a taxi with you if buses aren't an option.

i'll do oriam and join whatever you guys end up doing on way abck

Sounds good - yep I think there are showers and stuff and Oriam. Dunno what the transport options are - happy to taxi, or if not I'll probably have my bike with me, but too old for backies!

Graeme Cole wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 2:05 pm

James Robinson wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 1:00 pm Speaking of hybrids, I’m intending on making this event the first Lincoln/Bristol hybrid event, where we’ll have a Bristol-style final phase. Again, more on that next week.

Have I incorrectly assumed what "Bristol-style final phase" means?

Well, I just want to have something a little bit different to finish with, especially considering I'm hosting, and I quite like a challenge.

Nothing divisional, but I think having something a bit unique to end the day would be something different.

All will be revealed soon enough...

Fiona T wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:44 pm Sounds good - yep I think there are showers and stuff and Oriam. Dunno what the transport options are - happy to taxi, or if not I'll probably have my bike with me, but too old for backies!

Following various logistical shenanigans, I'm now at a hotel a few miles from the parkrun, so will be cycling there, so will cycle back to the venue (which is between parkrun and new hotel) - but doesn't look too far to uber for you and Maus.

Can give Callum & TC a lift back from Oriam to event venue at least - 2 more potentially

Phil H wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 6:32 pm Can give Callum & TC a lift back from Oriam to event venue at least - 2 more potentially

What a star!

Fiona T wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 7:11 pm

Phil H wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 6:32 pm Can give Callum & TC a lift back from Oriam to event venue at least - 2 more potentially

What a star!

Might now end up having to renege on this - and on attending the event - because of a worsening home repair issue. Will see how things pan out.

Video of the grand final https://youtu.be/l8mt4B5G_hY - apologies - most of the final round got missed! (spoilers - it was mostly puzzled faces!)

Well, it's been a great weekend at Edinburgh, and here are the results.

Round 1:

Table 1
Shireen Ahmed 30 - 62 Piaras Carney
Piaras Carney 52 - 31 Adam Beach
Adam Beach 42 - 49 Shireen Ahmed

Table 2
Phil Hannan 20 - 49 Steven Grady
Steven Grady 48 - 65 Conor Travers
Conor Travers 69 - 28 Phil Hannan

Table 3
George Armstrong 42 - 45 Eddie McCullagh
Eddie McCullagh 70 - 47 Mike Springett
Mike Springett 26 - 79 George Armstrong

Table 4
Ikenna Oguguo 45 - 19 Colin Peet
Colin Peet 44 - 48 Vicci Smith
Vicci Smith 22 - 53 Ikenna Oguguo

Table 5
Michael Armstrong 22 - 52 Paul Craib
Paul Craib 36 - 42 Jane Peet
Jane Peet 36 - 22 Michael Armstrong

Table 6
Euan Crabb 40 - 71 Callum Todd
Callum Todd 50 - 54 Sean Fletcher
Sean Fletcher 44 - 54 Euan Crabb

Table 7
Tom Carey 72 - 32 Iain Sime
Iain Sime 28 - 52 Fred Whibley
Fred Whibley 43 - 61 Tom Carey

Table 8
Alan Young 54 - 0 Hibs Prune
Hibs Prune 0 - 65 Fiona Titcombe
Fiona Titcombe 46 - 53 Alan Young

Table 9
Stewart Gordon 58 - 47 Zubair Patel
Zubair Patel 68 - 0 Hearts Prune
Hearts Prune 0 - 57 Stewart Gordon

Table 10
Damian McEvoy 29 - 58 Darren Godfrey
Darren Godfrey 35 - 45 Matt Gould
Matt Gould 43 - 47 Damian McEvoy

Table 11
Natalie McCluskey 42 - 49 Nathan Pace
Nathan Pace 53 - 44 Chloe Jones
Chloe Jones 25 - 58 Natalie McCluskey

Round 2:

Table 1
Tom Carey 62 - 44 Eddie McCullagh
Eddie McCullagh 54 - 64* Conor Travers
Conor Travers 84* - 74 Tom Carey

Table 2
Piaras Carney 39 - 49 Alan Young
Alan Young 63 - 50 Stewart Gordon
Stewart Gordon 43 - 47 Piaras Carney

Table 3
Ikenna Oguguo 51 - 53 Jane Peet
Jane Peet 43 - 41 Nathan Pace
Nathan Pace 42 - 40 Ikenna Oguguo

Table 4
Callum Todd 79 - 34 Zubair Patel
Zubair Patel 43 - 59 George Armstrong
George Armstrong 55 - 44 Callum Todd

Table 5
Natalie McCluskey 55 - 41 Sean Fletcher
Sean Fletcher 54 - 61 Fiona Titcombe
Fiona Titcombe 58 - 18 Natalie McCluskey

Table 6
Fred Whibley 71 - 38 Darren Godfrey
Darren Godfrey 63 - 55 Steven Grady
Steven Grady 40 - 57 Fred Whibley

Table 7
Matt Gould 67 - 18 Paul Craib
Paul Craib 45 - 43 Euan Crabb
Euan Crabb 29 - 37 Matt Gould

Table 8
Damian McEvoy 49 - 23 Vicci Smith
Vicci Smith 41 - 65 Shireen Ahmed
Shireen Ahmed 45 - 47 Damian McEvoy

Table 9
Mike Springett 59 - 32 Chloe Jones
Chloe Jones 27 - 62 Adam Beach
Adam Beach 40 - 51 Mike Springett

Table 10
Iain Sime 62 - 0 Hibs Prune
Hibs Prune 0 - 34 Colin Peet
Colin Peet 35 - 42 Iain Sime

Table 11
Michael Armstrong 54 - 0 Hearts Prune
Hearts Prune 0 - 57 Phil Hannan
Phil Hannan 51 - 22 Michael Armstrong

Round 3:

Table 1
Alan Young 52 - 38 Jane Peet
Jane Peet 24 - 61 Conor Travers
Conor Travers 66 - 23 Alan Young

Table 2
George Armstrong 53 - 51 Fiona Titcombe
Fiona Titcombe 65 - 55 Tom Carey
Tom Carey 70 - 47 George Armstrong

Table 3
Piaras Carney 38 - 51 Matt Gould
Matt Gould 49 - 45 Fred Whibley
Fred Whibley 57 - 45 Piaras Carney

Table 4
Damian McEvoy 34 - 73 Callum Todd
Callum Todd 72 - 34 Nathan Pace
Nathan Pace 48 - 39 Damian McEvoy

Table 5
Stewart Gordon 59 - 66 Darren Godfrey
Darren Godfrey 57 - 91 Eddie McCullagh
Eddie McCullagh 62 - 33 Stewart Gordon

Table 6
Ikenna Oguguo 51 - 67 Mike Springett
Mike Springett 30 - 68 Shireen Ahmed
Shireen Ahmed 50 - 24 Ikenna Oguguo

Table 7
Iain Sime 47 - 54 Phil Hannan
Phil Hannan 60 - 40 Natalie McCluskey
Natalie McCluskey 67 - 45 Iain Sime

Table 8
Sean Fletcher 65 - 43 Steven Grady
Steven Grady 53 - 20 Paul Craib
Paul Craib 34 - 30 Sean Fletcher

Table 9
Colin Peet 29 - 37 Michael Armstrong
Michael Armstrong 18 - 64 Zubair Patel
Zubair Patel 52 - 27 Colin Peet

Table 10
Euan Crabb 51 - 0 Hearts Prune
Hearts Prune 0 - 71 Adam Beach
Adam Beach 55 - 43 Euan Crabb

Table 11
Chloe Jones 47 - 0 Hibs Prune
Hibs Prune 0 - 51 Vicci Smith
Vicci Smith 39 - 27 Chloe Jones

Table after Round 3:

W Pts
1 Conor Travers 6 389
2 Alan Young 5 294
3 Matt Gould 5 292
4 Tom Carey 4 394
5 Callum Todd 4 389
6 Eddie McCullagh 4 366
7 Fiona Titcombe 4 346
8 George Armstrong 4 335
9 Fred Whibley 4 325
10 Shireen Ahmed 4 307
11 Phil Hannan 4 270
12 Nathan Pace 4 267
13 Jane Peet 4 236
14 Darren Godfrey 3 317
15 Zubair Patel 3 308
16 Adam Beach 3 301
17 Piaras Carney 3 283
18 Mike Springett 3 280
19 Natalie McCluskey 3 280
20 Damian McEvoy 3 245
21 Vicci Smith 3 224
22 Paul Craib 3 205
23 Stewart Gordon 2 300
24 Sean Fletcher 2 288
25 Steven Grady 2 288
26 Ikenna Oguguo 2 264
27 Euan Crabb 2 260
28 Iain Sime 2 256
29 Michael Armstrong 2 175
30 Chloe Jones 1 202
31 Colin Peet 1 188

Then I decided to go to Bristol format for the main final. As Conor had 6/6, he went straight to the final, the matches were positional, with the exception of Alan v Matt for 2nd/3rd, as the winner of that would play Conor in the grand final.

2 Alan Young 84-74 Matt Gould 3
4 Tom Carey 95-104 Callum Todd 5
6 Eddie McCullagh 115-72 Fiona Titcombe 7
8 George Armstrong 120-85 Fred Whibley 9
10 Shireen Ahmed 69-65 Phil Hannan 11
12 Nathan Pace 67-54 Jane Peet 13
14 Darren Godfrey 73-101 Zubair Patel 15
16 Adam Beach 93-75 Piaras Carney 17
18 Mike Springett 64-82 Natalie McCluskey 19
20 Damian McEvoy 81-37 Vicci Smith 21
22 Paul Craib 65-89 Stewart Gordon 23
24 Sean Fletcher 97-107 Steven Grady 25
26 Ikenna Oguguo 89-59 Euan Crabb 27
28 Iain Sime 97-23 Michael Armstrong 29
30 Chloe Jones 31-65 Colin Peet 31

Grand Final:
Conor Travers 104-85 Alan Young

As a question for anyone that was there to help recappers, since the majority of R14 was missing does anyone know if there was any answer from either guy?

Andres Sanchez wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 5:31 am As a question for anyone that was there to help recappers, since the majority of R14 was missing does anyone know if there was any answer from either guy?

Both declared 720.
Alan made a mistake.
Conor did (4+1)*the rest

James Robinson wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:44 pm Then I decided to go to Bristol format for the main final. As Conor had 6/6, he went straight to the final, the matches were positional, with the exception of Alan v Matt for 2nd/3rd, as the winner of that would play Conor in the grand final.

What does this mean for the final finishing positions please? Need to update the FOCAL standings but not sure what people's final finishing position is based on this.

Callum Todd wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 6:12 am What does this mean for the final finishing positions please? Need to update the FOCAL standings but not sure what people's final finishing position is based on this.

In the final round, if you beat the person above you, you go above them. So Callum, Zubair, Natalie, Stewart, Steven and Colin all leapfrog their final opponents. If the higher ranked player won, then no change.

Would be interesting to see how the final table would look if it was fully sorted by wins then points. If I get bored later on...

Callum Todd wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 6:12 am

Andres Sanchez wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 5:31 am As a question for anyone that was there to help recappers, since the majority of R14 was missing does anyone know if there was any answer from either guy?

Both declared 720.
Alan made a mistake.
Conor did (4+1)*the rest

That’s Round 13…, 14R remember…

On 29 seconds, Alan did a joke guess of HALALCORE, based on the first one…

George Armstrong wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:47 am

Callum Todd wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 6:12 am What does this mean for the final finishing positions please? Need to update the FOCAL standings but not sure what people's final finishing position is based on this.

In the final round, if you beat the person above you, you go above them. So Callum, Zubair, Natalie, Stewart, Steven and Colin all leapfrog their final opponents. If the higher ranked player won, then no change.

Would be interesting to see how the final table would look if it was fully sorted by wins then points. If I get bored later on...

Okay, thanks, that's complicated! Will sort out a final standings list when I get chance.

James Robinson wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:30 am

Callum Todd wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 6:12 am

Andres Sanchez wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 5:31 am As a question for anyone that was there to help recappers, since the majority of R14 was missing does anyone know if there was any answer from either guy?

Both declared 720.
Alan made a mistake.
Conor did (4+1)*the rest

That’s Round 13…, 14R remember…

On 29 seconds, Alan did a joke guess of HALALCORE, based on the first one…

Oh yeah! Used to thinking of R14 as the last numbers round.

Callum Todd wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:59 am Okay, thanks, that's complicated! Will sort out a final standings list when I get chance.

Will save you the trouble:

1 Conor Travers
2 Alan Young
3 Matt Gould
4 Callum Todd
5 Tom Carey
6 Eddie McCullagh
7 Fiona Titcombe
8 George Armstrong
9 Fred Whibley
10 Shireen Ahmed
11 Phil Hannan
12 Nathan Pace
13 Jane Peet
14 Zubair Patel
15 Darren Godfrey
16 Adam Beach
17 Piaras Carney
18 Natalie McCluskey
19 Mike Springett
20 Damian McEvoy
21 Vicci Smith
22 Stewart Gordon
23 Paul Craib
24 Steven Grady
25 Sean Fletcher
26 Ikenna Oguguo
27 Euan Crabb
28 Iain Sime
29 Michael Armstrong
30 Colin Peet
31 Chloe Jones

I won't work out the updated points totals, coz it'll start to look a bit messy as the table is no longer strictly wins then points.

But on a positive note, I know some people were concerned by the hybrid concept, but I have to say as a nice little extra game it worked rather well.

James Robinson wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:44 pm
Then I decided to go to Bristol format for the main final. As Conor had 6/6, he went straight to the final, the matches were positional, with the exception of Alan v Matt for 2nd/3rd, as the winner of that would play Conor in the grand final.

I think it's a great idea to try squeezing in a 7th game classroom style, but why not make it count towards the overall rankings in the same way they the rest of the games did? That seems way more fair to me.

Did Conor sit out that round? And Alan Young played in all rounds including the final?

JackHurst wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 1:15 pm I think it's a great idea to try squeezing in a 7th game classroom style, but why not make it count towards the overall rankings in the same way they the rest of the games did? That seems way more fair to me.

I'm bored enough so here's how that table would look (the numbers at the end indicate positional difference from the actual final table):

1. Conor Travers 6 389 +-0
2. Alan Young 6 378 +-0
3. Callum Todd 5 494 +2
4. Eddie McCullagh 5 481 +2
5. George Armstrong 5 455 +3
6. Shireen Ahmed 5 376 +4
7. Matt Gould 5 366 -4
8. Nathan Pace 5 334 +4
9. Tom Carey 4 491 -5
10. Fiona Titcombe 4 418 -3
11. Fred Whibley 4 410 -2
12. Zubair Patel 4 409 +3
13. Adam Beach 4 394 +3
14. Natalie McCluskey 4 362 +5
15. Phil Hannan 4 335 +6
16. Damian McEvoy 4 326 +4
17. Jane Peet 4 290 +4
18. Steven Grady 3 395 +7
19. Darren Godfrey 3 390 +5
20. Stewart Gordon 3 389 +3
21. Piaras Carney 3 358 -4
22. Ikenna Oguguo 3 353 +4
22. Iain Sime 3 353 +6
24. Mike Springett 3 344 -6
25. Paul Craib 3 270 -3
26. Vicci Smith 3 261 -5
27. Sean Fletcher 2 385 -3
28. Euan Crabb 2 319 -1
29. Colin Peet 2 253 +2
30. Michael Armstrong 2 198 -1
31. Chloe Jones 1 233 -1

A couple of things to note:

Alan and Matt were the only two to win 5/6 games. This fit nicely so that they would complete the podium spots with Conor regardless of who won their game, whereas in this table, Matt would unfortunately drop down to 8th. Another thing to bear in mind is that the first 6 games were all 9Rs, whereas the final Bristol style game was a 14R. If you wanted to make the final game affect the whole table, I think it's only fair to keep it the same format as all the other games, otherwise it carries significantly greater weight as more points are available.

George Armstrong wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 1:52 pm Another thing to bear in mind is that the first 6 games were all 9Rs, whereas the final Bristol style game was a 14R. If you wanted to make the final game affect the whole table, I think it's only fair to keep it the same format as all the other games, otherwise it carries significantly greater weight as more points are available.

Fair point. Although on Saturday we had the slightly unusual circumstance of the longest game of the day having by far the least effect on your standing (zero effect for most, and just 1 place gained/lost for the rest)

Callum Todd wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:20 pm

George Armstrong wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 1:52 pm Another thing to bear in mind is that the first 6 games were all 9Rs, whereas the final Bristol style game was a 14R. If you wanted to make the final game affect the whole table, I think it's only fair to keep it the same format as all the other games, otherwise it carries significantly greater weight as more points are available.

Fair point. Although on Saturday we had the slightly unusual circumstance of the longest game of the day having by far the least effect on your standing (zero effect for most, and just 1 place gained/lost for the rest)

I already gave a head start on the table as well as the Lincoln games with Round 2 needing to be done. If you want to add the positional differences to the table, you're free to do so.

Could do if I had a wiki account...

George Armstrong wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:59 pm Could do if I had a wiki account...

Should be able to Aptomail Charlie abt it, think that's what I did.

Also there are names who aren't really linked to any page despite them being prevalent in a lot of places:

Two examples are Fred W - who ofc has helped out on Zoomdown and is in his own right an Apterite - and Vicci Smith - who's appeared at other co-events.

Is it a disrespectful move to give them both their own pages, along with anyone else to display their co-event adventures like Matt Bayfield, the Hamers, Amie Bateen, or Chris Hare?

Some people probably won't mind, some would. I'd say if they don't have their own page, best to leave it unless they say it's fine.

George Armstrong wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:35 pm Some people probably won't mind, some would. I'd say if they don't have their own page, best to leave it unless they say it's fine.

Alright then, at least for future reference if anyone ELSE wants to ask any of the ppl if they want a page then the guys are:

Fred Whibley
Vicci Smith
Michael Armstrong
Colin Peet

If you have any connections to 'em, ask nicely about it. For now I will leave that as is now.

I wouldn't say it's disrespectful to start a wiki page for someone. Contestants get them automatically anyway, and I think it makes sense to make them for at least prominent CO-eventers / Apterites etc.

Andres Sanchez wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:12 pm Alright then, at least for future reference if anyone ELSE wants to ask any of the ppl if they want a page then the guys are:

Fred Whibley
Vicci Smith
Michael Armstrong
Colin Peet

If you have any connections to 'em, ask nicely about it. For now I will leave that as is now.

Well I have a connection to one of 'em. Can you guess which?

George Armstrong wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 10:56 pm

Andres Sanchez wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:12 pm Alright then, at least for future reference if anyone ELSE wants to ask any of the ppl if they want a page then the guys are:

Fred Whibley
Vicci Smith
Michael Armstrong
Colin Peet

If you have any connections to 'em, ask nicely about it. For now I will leave that as is now.

Well I have a connection to one of 'em. Can you guess which?

Oh yeah totally...


Vicci Smith lol


srs tho I assume one's your dad?

yeah Fred's page has been deleted, so don't think it should be recreated.

With that in mind, I would say that if someone has indicated that they specifically don't want a wiki page then go along with that, but otherwise I don't think explicit permission need be sought in all cases.

It's a bit of a privacy invasion to go making wiki pages for people who have only been to events. Also what value does it add to the wiki?

Fiona T wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:02 am yeah Fred's page has been deleted, so don't think it should be recreated.

Oh he had a page up before? If he wanted it deleted then I won't bother making one if he doesn't want it.

Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:13 am With that in mind, I would say that if someone has indicated that they specifically don't want a wiki page then go along with that, but otherwise I don't think explicit permission need be sought in all cases.

Sounds reasonable enough.

JackHurst wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:46 am It's a bit of a privacy invasion to go making wiki pages for people who have only been to events. Also what value does it add to the wiki?

Ah yeah, I can see the perspective on this one. Think for now it'll be better to just not have a page linked to any of the aforementioned names to at least make it look better. Not a big fan of leaving it red like that tbh

Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 1:45 pm Did Conor sit out that round? And Alan Young played in all rounds including the final?

Yes, Conor was my Rachel for that match.

And yes, Alan was the only player to play 8 games.

Alright the Lincoln stuff is all done for this bit: https://wiki.apterous.org/COEDI_2022

I'd be willing to get any advice for recapping the Bristol section as I've not really known what to do for that bit.