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Spoilers for Tuesday 23rd March 2021 (Series 83, Preliminary 57)

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:14 pm
by Fiona T
MARTINGALE in r4

Numbers alt - (6+1)*9+25+50 = 138

More great stuff from Luke - at this rate we might see another member of the 1000 club!

Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 23 March 2021 (Series 83, Preliminary 57)

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:21 pm
by Johnny Canuck
Fiona T wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:14 pm MARTINGALE in r4
Nice 10 :mrgreen:

Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 23 March 2021 (Series 83, Preliminary 57)

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:28 pm
by Fiona T
Ignore that - wrong letters! :D

Damn - was pleased that that :)

Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 23 March 2021 (Series 83, Preliminary 57)

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:38 pm
by Tom S
Luke was excellent today- couldn't help but feel for his opponent who looked crestfallen towards the end. I think Elliott Mellor needs to be on-guard as Luke is chasing his record.

Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 23 March 2021 (Series 83, Preliminary 57)

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:27 pm
by Philip A
Never mind 1,000 club... his average is currently 138.333... which, over 8 wins, would put him in the eleven hundred club!!

Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 23 March 2021 (Series 83, Preliminary 57)

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:47 pm
by John Garcia
Fiona T wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:28 pm Ignore that - wrong letters! :D

Damn - was pleased that that :)
Weirdly I got that too. But realized there weren't 2 A's.

UNCLOSED and TRAMLINE were 2 alternative 8's. At least I think they are ok. What is the goto online dictionary for checking?

Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 23 March 2021 (Series 83, Preliminary 57)

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 6:05 pm
by Tom S
John Garcia wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:47 pm
Fiona T wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:28 pm Ignore that - wrong letters! :D

Damn - was pleased that that :)
Weirdly I got that too. But realized there weren't 2 A's.

UNCLOSED and TRAMLINE were 2 alternative 8's. At least I think they are ok. What is the goto online dictionary for checking?
lexico.com

Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 23 March 2021 (Series 83, Preliminary 57)

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 6:09 pm
by Fiona T
Philip A wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:27 pm Never mind 1,000 club... his average is currently 138.333... which, over 8 wins, would put him in the eleven hundred club!!
Yeah, if only he'd got that 10! ;)

Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 23 March 2021 (Series 83, Preliminary 57)

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 7:51 pm
by Sam Cappleman-Lynes
5 vowels in R11 was a mistake. The game is sewn up already, so there's no need for defensive picking, and only one (uncommon as far as vowels go) vowel gives a 9 whereas a staggering 10 consonants do so, most of them being extremely common letters. With these sorts of errors creeping in I fear this may be the beginning of the end for Luke.

(For those who can't tell, yes this post is insincere. Congrats on a cracking run so far, Luke.)

Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 23 March 2021 (Series 83, Preliminary 57)

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 8:25 pm
by Gavin Chipper
I don't think Luke was beaten by anyone on screen during the show, so it looked like it could be a max, but I've just been to the wiki, and it's not a max game.

Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 23 March 2021 (Series 83, Preliminary 57)

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 8:25 pm
by L'oisleatch McGraw
Sam Cappleman-Lynes wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 7:51 pm 5 vowels in R11 was a mistake.
Yes! I wondered about that too.
Luke seemed to hesitate before his final vowel pick, as though he were fishing... I expected him to go consonant. Afterwards when I checked the SEDATION stems, I was surprised to see that a final vowel gives a 20% chance of a 9 whereas a consonant would have given closer to 50% (assuming all consonant picks are equally likely, which they of course are not... so that percentage becomes greater than 50%).

And the next consonant out was a 'B' :?

Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 23 March 2021 (Series 83, Preliminary 57)

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 8:31 pm
by L'oisleatch McGraw
More interesting goaty stuff from RD 13...

The selection was VTLOEIAN before Luke plumbed for a final consonant.
Consonant gives around a 5% chance of a 9, vowel would give 40%ish.
(again the %s do not take letters distribution into account... if they did, both %s would be a bit higher.)

Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 23 March 2021 (Series 83, Preliminary 57)

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 8:40 pm
by Rhys Benjamin
Gavin Chipper wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 8:25 pm I don't think Luke was beaten by anyone on screen during the show, so it looked like it could be a max, but I've just been to the wiki, and it's not a max game.
A lesser-spotted Jos game.

Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 23 March 2021 (Series 83, Preliminary 57)

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 9:25 pm
by Gavin Chipper
Rhys Benjamin wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 8:40 pm
Gavin Chipper wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 8:25 pm I don't think Luke was beaten by anyone on screen during the show, so it looked like it could be a max, but I've just been to the wiki, and it's not a max game.
A lesser-spotted Jos game.
Nice.

Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 23 March 2021 (Series 83, Preliminary 57)

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:24 pm
by L'oisleatch McGraw
Does JOS mean "just on screen" or something?

Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 23 March 2021 (Series 83, Preliminary 57)

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:45 pm
by Rhys Benjamin
It's a bad pun coined by Gevin based on the Verstappens. But I guess that works as well.

https://wiki.apterous.org/Jos

Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 23 March 2021 (Series 83, Preliminary 57)

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:06 pm
by Gavin Chipper
Rhys Benjamin wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:45 pm It's a bad pun coined by Gevin based on the Verstappens. But I guess that works as well.

https://wiki.apterous.org/Jos
This was the original post by the way. And from the wiki article:
A Jos game ... is a game that did not beat Dictionary Corner, but equally could have been beaten.
Should that say "that was not beaten by Dictionary Corner"?

Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 23 March 2021 (Series 83, Preliminary 57)

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:29 pm
by Rhys Benjamin
It should.