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The Left Wing Press

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:14 pm
by Paul Worsley
I cannot believe that after near treasonous behaviour by Jeremy Corbyn, the best headline the Guardian and the Mirror can come up with is about the Duchess of Sussex's fashion line for unemployed women, and Simon Cowell's botox.
I used to laugh about North Korea and Russia suppressing news stories, but aren't we just as bad?

Re: The Left Wing Press

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:15 am
by Martin Long
Paul Worsley wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:14 pm I cannot believe that after near treasonous behaviour by Jeremy Corbyn, the best headline the Guardian and the Mirror can come up with is about the Duchess of Sussex's fashion line for unemployed women, and Simon Cowell's botox.
I used to laugh about North Korea and Russia suppressing news stories, but aren't we just as bad?

I see what you done here. :mrgreen:

I'll bite. Treasonous behaviour by Jeremy Corbyn?

Re: The Left Wing Press

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:25 am
by Marc Meakin
Yeah and the BBC remoaners too

Re: The Left Wing Press

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:43 pm
by JimBentley
Paul Worsley wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:14 pm I cannot believe that after near treasonous behaviour by Jeremy Corbyn, the best headline the Guardian and the Mirror can come up with is about the Duchess of Sussex's fashion line for unemployed women, and Simon Cowell's botox.
I used to laugh about North Korea and Russia suppressing news stories, but aren't we just as bad?
What near-treasonous behaviour was that, Paul? Explain with examples please.

And anyway, the Guardian is not left-wing, it is very much centrist. They probably hate Corbyn as much as you do!

Re: The Left Wing Press

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:09 pm
by Martin Long
JimBentley wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:43 pm
Paul Worsley wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:14 pm I cannot believe that after near treasonous behaviour by Jeremy Corbyn, the best headline the Guardian and the Mirror can come up with is about the Duchess of Sussex's fashion line for unemployed women, and Simon Cowell's botox.
I used to laugh about North Korea and Russia suppressing news stories, but aren't we just as bad?
What near-treasonous behaviour was that, Paul? Explain with examples please.

And anyway, the Guardian is not left-wing, it is very much centrist. They probably hate Corbyn as much as you do!
I'd describe The Guardian as left wing and liberal (although admittedly, I don't read any of the mainstream newspapers, mainly rely on BBC website for my news) and Wikipedia pretty much agrees with that description.

Re: The Left Wing Press

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:56 pm
by JimBentley
Martin Long wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:09 pm
JimBentley wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:43 pmAnd anyway, the Guardian is not left-wing, it is very much centrist. They probably hate Corbyn as much as you do!
I'd describe The Guardian as left wing and liberal (although admittedly, I don't read any of the mainstream newspapers, mainly rely on BBC website for my news) and Wikipedia pretty much agrees with that description.
The Guardian is only left-wing on identity politics issues (I don't necessarily think that such things are party political, but they're generally associated with the left because they're so despised by the right) but on politics, it couldn't be more centrist. They generally advocate a vote for the Liberal Democrats. Some of the writers may have leaned towards Labour in the past, but since Jeremy Corbyn became leader, they all yearn for a return to the Blair times (i.e. adopting the centre-right ground, rather than espousing any kind of borderline-socialist policies).

Re: The Left Wing Press

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:14 pm
by Fiona T
Amusing acrostic (top and bottom) in yesterday's crossword solution if you haven't seen it :)

https://www.theguardian.com/crosswords/cryptic/27924

Re: The Left Wing Press

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:52 am
by Paul Worsley
JimBentley wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:43 pm What near-treasonous behaviour was that, Paul? Explain with examples please.

And anyway, the Guardian is not left-wing, it is very much centrist. They probably hate Corbyn as much as you do!
I was being sarcastic in response to another thread.

Basically, I believe the current political paralysis cannot be pinned on one individual or party, No-one gets out with their reputation unscathed.

Secondly, I think too much is made of the idea that the press has a right wing (or left wing) bias, I think people will gravitate towards a newspaper that reflects their viewpoint

Lastly, there are very few people that I hate. I might disagree with Jeremy Corbyn, but I wouldn't put him in the same category as Adolf Hitler or Midge Ure.

Re: The Left Wing Press

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 3:02 pm
by Mark James
Paul Worsley wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:52 am
JimBentley wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:43 pm What near-treasonous behaviour was that, Paul? Explain with examples please.

And anyway, the Guardian is not left-wing, it is very much centrist. They probably hate Corbyn as much as you do!
I was being sarcastic in response to another thread.

Basically, I believe the current political paralysis cannot be pinned on one individual or party, No-one gets out with their reputation unscathed.

Secondly, I think too much is made of the idea that the press has a right wing (or left wing) bias, I think people will gravitate towards a newspaper that reflects their viewpoint

Lastly, there are very few people that I hate. I might disagree with Jeremy Corbyn, but I wouldn't put him in the same category as Adolf Hitler or Midge Ure.
The other thread used actual examples of front page headlines from newspapers on that day to make a point about how right wing newspapers are ignoring bigger issues. There was nothing on either the mirror or guardian's front page about the Duchess of Sussex's fashion line or Simon Cowell's botox on that day. If you're point was to say one side is as bad as the other it would have been better to compare like with like and use actual examples.

Re: The Left Wing Press

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:54 pm
by Paul Worsley
Before I started this thread I checked out the Sun and the Daily Mail websites, and neither lead on the Flintoff story. I also picked up a copy of the Sun while queueing in Costa and no mention of Flintoff on the front page.

I subscribe to the online Daily Telegraph and wasn't aware they were ignoring Brexit.

Re: The Left Wing Press

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:45 am
by Marc Meakin
Paul Worsley wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:54 pm Before I started this thread I checked out the Sun and the Daily Mail websites, and neither lead on the Flintoff story. I also picked up a copy of the Sun while queueing in Costa and no mention of Flintoff on the front page.

I subscribe to the online Daily Telegraph and wasn't aware they were ignoring Brexit.
I bought my mum her newspapers that day and I can assure you they were on the front page of the respective rags.
My mum is 90 so I think she is the right demographic

Re: The Left Wing Press

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:45 pm
by Marc Meakin
Paul Worsley wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:54 pm Before I started this thread I checked out the Sun and the Daily Mail websites, and neither lead on the Flintoff story. I also picked up a copy of the Sun while queueing in Costa and no mention of Flintoff on the front page.

I subscribe to the online Daily Telegraph and wasn't aware they were ignoring Brexit.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... =712467376
As close to a citation as I can give you