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disallowed words

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 7:18 pm
by Eoin Monaghan
sometimes when playing apterous i type in a valid word and it doesn't count

e.g i typed in 'qindar' (currency of albania) and got no points

Re: disallowed words

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 7:50 pm
by Ben Wilson

Re: disallowed words

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 7:51 pm
by Charlie Reams
QINDAR is not valid according to the Oxford Dictionary of English 2nd Edition Revised, which is the relevant authority.

Re: disallowed words

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 7:55 pm
by Dan Vanniasingham
A quick look at your recent games shows that either:

1) The letters required for your word aren't present i.e. scurried (only one R)
2) You've got the word wrong i.e. rotaters (it's ROTATORS)
3) You've made it up i.e. tunings, waners, soapers...

Still, at least you can log-in and play these days :D

Re: disallowed words

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:28 pm
by Eoin Monaghan
i thought it was a variation of qintar which is quite a popular countdown word

Re: disallowed words

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:30 pm
by Eoin Monaghan
Dan Vanniasingham wrote:A quick look at your recent games shows that either:

1) The letters required for your word aren't present i.e. scurried (only one R)
2) You've got the word wrong i.e. rotaters (it's ROTATORS)
3) You've made it up i.e. tunings, waners, soapers...

Still, at least you can log-in and play these days :D
in relation to quote 1 i was playin goatdown so only had ten seconds
in relation to quote 2 i was guessing
in relation to quote 3 i was seeing if i could get lucky cause sometimes i play safe when i could risk valid words that are higher scoring value

Re: disallowed words

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:32 pm
by Eoin Monaghan
Dan Vanniasingham wrote:A quick look at your recent games shows that either:



Still, at least you can log-in and play these days :D
i hope u werent bein sarcastic

Re: disallowed words

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:39 pm
by Charlie Reams
Eoin.V.Monaghan wrote: in relation to quote 1 i was playin goatdown so only had ten seconds
in relation to quote 2 i was guessing
in relation to quote 3 i was seeing if i could get lucky cause sometimes i play safe when i could risk valid words that are higher scoring value
I don't think Dan was accusing you of anything. In fact I thought it was quite helpful of him to address so many examples. The moral is that you should be careful before claiming that the program is broken.

Re: disallowed words

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:46 pm
by Eoin Monaghan
im not accusing dan- just backing myself up. also i dont think ive ever said the game was broken

Re: disallowed words

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 11:43 pm
by Dan Vanniasingham
Eoin.V.Monaghan wrote:
Dan Vanniasingham wrote:A quick look at your recent games shows that either:



Still, at least you can log-in and play these days :D
i hope u werent bein sarcastic
I hope I wasn't too. :|

Re: disallowed words

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 12:13 am
by Charlie Reams
Eoin.V.Monaghan wrote:also i dont think ive ever said the game was broken
So you thought that disallowing valid words was the correct behaviour?

Re: disallowed words

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 2:14 pm
by Eoin Monaghan
no i think apterous is a fantastic website- i take my hat off to you charlie. I was just checking to see if words could be validated that i had disallowed. maybe i'm wrong -i don't know

Re: disallowed words

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:55 pm
by Jimmy Gough
Eoin.V.Monaghan wrote:no i think apterous is a fantastic website- i take my hat off to you charlie. I was just checking to see if words could be validated that i had disallowed. maybe i'm wrong -i don't know
So basically you think he's a twat?

Re: disallowed words

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:29 pm
by Eoin Monaghan
why would i think he's a twat? he's hardly a twat if he made the final of this years series-racking up some brilliant scores. i don't think i can say anything within this post that i haven't posted before on this topic

Re: disallowed words

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:27 pm
by Charlie Reams
Eoin.V.Monaghan wrote:why would i think he's a twat? he's hardly a twat if he made the final of this years series-racking up some brilliant scores. i don't think i can say anything within this post that i haven't posted before on this topic
I think Jimmy is winding you up mate. I understood what you meant.

Re: disallowed words

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:06 pm
by Eoin Monaghan
Charlie Reams wrote:
Eoin.V.Monaghan wrote:why would i think he's a twat? he's hardly a twat if he made the final of this years series-racking up some brilliant scores. i don't think i can say anything within this post that i haven't posted before on this topic
I think Jimmy is winding you up mate. I understood what you meant.
at least someone did

Re: disallowed words

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:14 pm
by Callum Laddiman
http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=32559 Round 2 of this. Surely stressiest is a valid word.

Re: disallowed words

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:20 pm
by Eoin Monaghan
Callum Laddiman wrote:http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=32559 Round 2 of this. Surely stressiest is a valid word.
surely not

Re: disallowed words

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:10 am
by Phil Reynolds
Callum Laddiman wrote:http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=32559 Round 2 of this. Surely stressiest is a valid word.
Why "surely"? It might be a word if there was an adjective "stressy", which would then presumably have the comparative and superlative forms "stressier" and "stressiest". But there isn't. A situation is stressful, not stressy. (And hence potentially "more stressful" and "most stressful".)

Re: disallowed words

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:44 am
by Matt Morrison
Phil Reynolds wrote:
Callum Laddiman wrote:http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=32559 Round 2 of this. Surely stressiest is a valid word.
Why "surely"? It might be a word if there was an adjective "stressy", which would then presumably have the comparative and superlative forms "stressier" and "stressiest". But there isn't. A situation is stressful, not stressy. (And hence potentially "more stressful" and "most stressful".)
You are right of course Phil, but just for the info (guessing you don't use the word yourself) stressy isn't used as an adjective for a stressful situation, it is used to describe someone who gets stressed/moody a lot.

Re: disallowed words

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:52 am
by Phil Reynolds
Matt Morrison wrote:stressy isn't used as an adjective for a stressful situation, it is used to describe someone who gets stressed/moody a lot.
Never heard it used in that way myself, but obviously people make up words all the time and use them in ways that suit them. The question is whether or not such neologisms have sufficient currency to be deemed worthy of inclusion in the dictionary, and (at least so far as "stressy" and the ODE are concerned) in this case the answer so far is evidently "no".

Re: disallowed words

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 3:51 pm
by Matt Morrison
Phil Reynolds wrote:
Matt Morrison wrote:stressy isn't used as an adjective for a stressful situation, it is used to describe someone who gets stressed/moody a lot.
Never heard it used in that way myself, but obviously people make up words all the time and use them in ways that suit them. The question is whether or not such neologisms have sufficient currency to be deemed worthy of inclusion in the dictionary, and (at least so far as "stressy" and the ODE are concerned) in this case the answer so far is evidently "no".
Yup. I actually found out it wasn't in about a year ago watching Countdown, but I was very surprised at the time as I've known of people saying 'stressy' for 15-20 years. It's a classic school playground word, I'm remembering kids shouting "STRESSSSYYY!!" at each other whenever there's even the slightest hint of a bad mood.

Re: disallowed words

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:38 pm
by Lee Simmonds
http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=40118

I declared waldoes in this game and remember clearly Stewart Holden getting this in his series final. Would this be because a different dictionary was in use at the time?

Re: disallowed words

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:43 pm
by Kirk Bevins
Lee Simmonds wrote:http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=40118

I declared waldoes in this game and remember clearly Stewart Holden getting this in his series final. Would this be because a different dictionary was in use at the time?
Yes. It's WALDOS now.

Re: disallowed words

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:19 pm
by Ben Wilson
Lee Simmonds wrote:http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=40118

I declared waldoes in this game and remember clearly Stewart Holden getting this in his series final. Would this be because a different dictionary was in use at the time?
ironically at the time it was valid in Countdown and not in Scrabble, whereas now it's the exact opposite. :)