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Posted: **Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:58 pm**

Martin Gardner wrote:We have our 7 group winners now, in order of seeding they are:

#1 Paul Howe
#2 Julian Fell
#3 Kirk Bevins
#4 Ben Wilson
#5 Jason Cullen
#6 David O'Donnell
#7 Jon O'Neill
#8 Ben Pugh

Hmm so are you doing the seedings based only on results in this tournament? I thought when you said you were doing seedings for the QFs, you meant seedings based on Charlie's ratings. Looking at Martin's list, I think if you're doing it on wins and points in this tournament alone, then Ben Pugh should be above Jono and David O (or is the best runner-up automatically #8 seed?)

And are you still doing #1 vs. #8, #2 vs #7 etc. in the quarters?

Looks like I won't have to play David O'Donnell

I might have to play Jono

Posted: **Fri Sep 26, 2008 10:03 am**

Yes it's seeding by points and wins from this tournament, and the best runner-up is automatically #8 seed.

Posted: **Fri Sep 26, 2008 10:10 pm**

I didn't notice Jerry online this evening and we were due to play at 8pm. Not sure what would happen now, but I'm sure there was a valid reason as to why he wasn't online.

Posted: **Fri Sep 26, 2008 10:15 pm**

He's online now mate, albeit listed as 'away'.

Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2008 10:52 am**

Oh damn. I think we must have just missed each other then. My apologies for the previous post.

Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2008 1:00 pm**

Yes best runner-up is automatically 8th seed, and it's by wins, then points, then points difference. I'm afraid I can't wait forever for Jerry and Steven to play, so I'm putting you both in the plate as it was unlikely that you'd have beaten Ben Pugh's 201 points (Jerry needed 142 points and Steven 116, admittedly 116 is doable) but I've already extended the deadline by 2 days, and I have to think about the other 19 players who are waiting to play not just the two that haven't played.

So here's the draw:

Paul Howe vs. Ben Pugh
Julian Fell vs. Jon O'Neill
Kirk Bevins vs. David O'Donnell
Ben Wilson vs. Jason Cullen (these two in fact both have 198 points)

I've done the draw for the plate by assigning each player a random number between 0 and 1 using my calculator, then putting them in order so the highest plays the second highest, etc. The draw is as follows (all of this will be on the wiki shortly):

Martin Gardner vs. Jerry Humphreys
Richard Priest vs. Joseph Bolas
Karen Pearson vs. Steven Briers
Dino S. vs. Howard Somerset
Matt Coates vs. Charlie Reams

Ian Volante, Julie Taylor and Michael Wallace all have a by into the next round of the Plate. There's no draw for the next round, the winner of Me and Jerry plays the winner of Richard and Joseph, etc.

Edit: Forgot to say it's one game per week from now on, so all games should be done before 11.59 on the 4/10/08.

Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:12 pm**

Martin Gardner wrote:Ian Volante, Julie Taylor and Michael Wallace all have a by into the next round of the Plate. There's no draw for the next round, the winner of Me and Jerry plays the winner of Richard and Joseph, etc.

Does this mean that Julie and I are going to be playing each other in the next round regardless of what happens? (and if so, does it matter if we happen to play before the deadline for the first round, or will that just confuse things?)

Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:27 pm**

Is the deadline 11:59 am or 11:59 pm next Saturday?
If am, I'll not make it, I'm afraid,
If pm, I'll do my best, so long as Dinos is available sometime Saturday evening.

Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2008 11:53 pm**

A chance for you to make Emma eat her words, Howard.

Posted: **Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:37 am**

I go away next Friday for 10 days so, Steven, please could we play it before then? I am free today (Sunday), Monday evening before 7.30, Wednesday or Thursday evenings, or most days during the day.

Posted: **Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:11 am**

Michael Wallace wrote:
Martin Gardner wrote:Ian Volante, Julie Taylor and Michael Wallace all have a by into the next round of the Plate. There's no draw for the next round, the winner of Me and Jerry plays the winner of Richard and Joseph, etc.
Does this mean that Julie and I are going to be playing each other in the next round regardless of what happens? (and if so, does it matter if we happen to play before the deadline for the first round, or will that just confuse things?)

Yes and yes, you are playing each other and you can play now, I don't see why not.

Posted: **Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:12 am**

Howard Somerset wrote:Is the deadline 11:59 am or 11:59 pm next Saturday?
If am, I'll not make it, I'm afraid,
If pm, I'll do my best, so long as Dinos is available sometime Saturday evening.

11.59 pm, sorry

Posted: **Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:08 pm**

Karen Pearson wrote:I go away next Friday for 10 days so, Steven, please could we play it before then? I am free today (Sunday), Monday evening before 7.30, Wednesday or Thursday evenings, or most days during the day.

Yes that's fine Karen. I'm available any evening after about 6pm, so whenever would be best for you really.

Posted: **Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:28 pm**

Could we say 6pm on Wednesday then please Steven? And is it OK if we play on MSN?

Posted: **Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:36 pm**

Joseph and I are planning to play this Tuesday, 4.30pm onwards. Is anyone available around that time to host?

Posted: **Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:14 am**

I may have to reluctantly withdraw from the countdown tournament because I do not have access to a computer until tuesday week

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If i could postpone my match until then, then I will be able to play, if not, forced to pull out. I am sneakily using the college computers to send this message

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Please let me know Martin what I am to do about the situation

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Cheers

Jason

Posted: **Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:15 am**

Julian Fell wrote:
Looks like I won't have to play David O'Donnell

I might have to play Jono

Out of the tepid bath and into the fire.

Yo, Bevins, when do you wanna do it? Will have to be via msn, unfortunately.

Posted: **Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:16 pm**

Rich Priest wrote:Joseph and I are planning to play this Tuesday, 4.30pm onwards. Is anyone available around that time to host?

I should be online around then. Joseph has my msn details but just in case, it's d_odonnell24@hotmail.com

Posted: **Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:25 pm**

jasoncullen wrote:I may have to reluctantly withdraw from the countdown tournament because I do not have access to a computer until tuesday week .

If i could postpone my match until then, then I will be able to play, if not, forced to pull out. I am sneakily using the college computers to send this message .

Please let me know Martin what I am to do about the situation .

Cheers

Jason

I don't mind waiting fwiw.

Posted: **Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:51 pm**

Ben, if you need to arrange a specific time I have Weds and Thurs evenings completely free, but I'm happy to just run into you on apterous at some stage during the week if that's cool.

Posted: **Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:53 pm**

For what it's worth I also think you should extend the deadline to let Jason play, Martin - would be a shame to default someone who's won his place in the quarter-finals fair and square, for the sake of a few days.

Jono vs. Julian is going to be on Thursday at 8:30pm, on MSN (sorry Charlie) - can anyone be there then to host please?

David O'Donnell wrote:Yo, Bevins, when do you wanna do it?

Posted: **Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:16 pm**

jasoncullen wrote:I may have to reluctantly withdraw from the countdown tournament because I do not have access to a computer until tuesday week .

If i could postpone my match until then, then I will be able to play, if not, forced to pull out. I am sneakily using the college computers to send this message .

Please let me know Martin what I am to do about the situation .

Cheers

Jason

Yeah I think it's fair if you've let me know in advance and it's just a couple of days, why not wait? Let's postpone the match.

Posted: **Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:23 pm**

Looks like me and Howard are getting it on this Saturday evening. Not sure yet though if this will be via msn or Apterous.

Posted: **Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:59 pm**

Paul Howe wrote:Ben, if you need to arrange a specific time I have Weds and Thurs evenings completely free, but I'm happy to just run into you on apterous at some stage during the week if that's cool.

I prefer Apterous to MSN so that second option is preferable for me.

Posted: **Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:05 pm**

Ben Pugh wrote:I prefer Apterous to MSN so that second option is preferable for me.

Any chance you could pick a time so that fans of the beautiful game can tune in and spectate?

Posted: **Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:26 pm**

Karen Pearson wrote:Could we say 6pm on Wednesday then please Steven? And is it OK if we play on MSN?

Sure Karen, that'll be great. I'd also prefer to play on MSN as well as I've only played a couple of games on Apterous and I'm still getting to grips with it.

Posted: **Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:57 pm**

Dinos Sfyris wrote:Looks like me and Howard are getting it on this Saturday evening. Not sure yet though if this will be via msn or Apterous.

In a similar vain, I think we can extend the deadline for Howard as he did tell me he was going to be away before the tournament even started. But if you still want to play Saturday, that suits me better.

Posted: **Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:01 pm**

David O'Donnell wrote:
Julian Fell wrote:
Looks like I won't have to play David O'Donnell

I might have to play Jono
Out of the tepid bath and into the fire.

Yo, Bevins, when do you wanna do it? Will have to be via msn, unfortunately.

On a weekend? Some time on Saturday afternoon/evening? Edit: I'm meeting someone on Saturday and so I don't think it's a good idea. Let's try Sunday instead.

Posted: **Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:07 pm**

David O'Donnell wrote:
Rich Priest wrote:Joseph and I are planning to play this Tuesday, 4.30pm onwards. Is anyone available around that time to host?
I should be online around then. Joseph has my msn details but just in case, it's d_odonnell24@hotmail.com

Thanks David I'll add your details.

Posted: **Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:24 pm**

If anyone drops out of this tournament and needs replacing let me know!

Posted: **Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:27 pm**

Martin Gardner wrote:
Michael Wallace wrote:
Martin Gardner wrote:Ian Volante, Julie Taylor and Michael Wallace all have a by into the next round of the Plate. There's no draw for the next round, the winner of Me and Jerry plays the winner of Richard and Joseph, etc.
Does this mean that Julie and I are going to be playing each other in the next round regardless of what happens? (and if so, does it matter if we happen to play before the deadline for the first round, or will that just confuse things?)

Yes and yes, you are playing each other and you can play now, I don't see why not.

Hi, Michael, I'd prefer to play on MSN if that's OK with you.
What times are you available? I'd prefer any weekday late afternoon/early evening, but I can be flexible if that's awkward for you.
I hadn't really looked at the COGST rules properly - I thought that was it when I was knocked out in the first round!

Posted: **Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:31 pm**

Martin Gardner wrote:In a similar vain, I think we can extend the deadline for Howard as he did tell me he was going to be away before the tournament even started. But if you still want to play Saturday, that suits me better.

Thanks Martin

Dinos and I are discussing when we are to play our game, and we'll let you know as soon as we can.
The fact that I can log in here briefly each evening doesn't mean i can play a game this week. Sitting in a hotel lobby with a queue behind me waiting to get to the terminal isn't the best way of playing a game.

Posted: **Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:07 pm**

Julie T wrote:Hi, Michael, I'd prefer to play on MSN if that's OK with you.
What times are you available? I'd prefer any weekday late afternoon/early evening, but I can be flexible if that's awkward for you.
I hadn't really looked at the COGST rules properly - I thought that was it when I was knocked out in the first round!

I can't really do Tuesday or Wednesday this week, but then I'm free all of Thursday and Friday (supposedly), not too sure about next week. We could say sometime Thursday early eveningish? I imagine it may depend more on finding a willing host...any volunteers?

Posted: **Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:36 pm**

Michael Wallace wrote:
Julie T wrote:Hi, Michael, I'd prefer to play on MSN if that's OK with you.
What times are you available? I'd prefer any weekday late afternoon/early evening, but I can be flexible if that's awkward for you.
I hadn't really looked at the COGST rules properly - I thought that was it when I was knocked out in the first round!
I can't really do Tuesday or Wednesday this week, but then I'm free all of Thursday and Friday (supposedly), not too sure about next week. We could say sometime Thursday early eveningish? I imagine it may depend more on finding a willing host...any volunteers?

I could host Karen and Steven's game on Wednesday, if they haven't found anyone else to host yet, and then perhaps one of them could host our game on Thurs or Fri.
Although I'd still like to host, even if they can't reciprocate.
If not, if anyone else would like me to host a game on MSN, I'd like a go. Perhaps a friendly game first, as I haven't done it before, if there's a couple of people who would like a practice. I thought I'd use apterous as a generator, unless someone could suggest other links.

Posted: **Tue Sep 30, 2008 1:01 pm**

Me and Ben (Ben and I?) will be playing at 7ish Weds on apterous if anyone wants to watch.

Posted: **Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:08 pm**

I will try and be online this week everyday from 5pm, except tomorrow as I'm out. I'll host any games I can.

Posted: **Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:54 pm**

The wiki has now been updated to reflect the current situation of the tournament.

Posted: **Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:44 pm**

Julie T wrote:I could host Karen and Steven's game on Wednesday, if they haven't found anyone else to host yet, and then perhaps one of them could host our game on Thurs or Fri.

I can do Wednesday now, so we could play after you host Karen and Steven's game?

Posted: **Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:08 pm**

Michael Wallace wrote:
Julie T wrote:I could host Karen and Steven's game on Wednesday, if they haven't found anyone else to host yet, and then perhaps one of them could host our game on Thurs or Fri.
I can do Wednesday now, so we could play after you host Karen and Steven's game?

That's fine, if they want me to host!

I've fiddled about on the custom game setting on apterous, and you can play against a bot and allow C2 to pick all the letters and numbers, which would generate the game, as well as giving O/T words and solutions.
I have a 2006 edition ODE to check contestants words, which is currently the one used, I think?

Posted: **Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:12 pm**

Thanks to those who let me host a friendly game. Won't say who, as it was a friendly. They can say if they want to!

Apterous fecked up a bit (or maybe it was pilot error), so I used Countgen. I was a bit crap, but learnt how to do it. Players were very patient. Not as easy as it looks!
I still think apterous set so you can choose all the letters and numbers will be the easiest way in future.

Posted: **Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:42 pm**

Julie T wrote: I could host Karen and Steven's game on Wednesday, if they haven't found anyone else to host yet, and then perhaps one of them could host our game on Thurs or Fri.

Thanks Julie. Don't worry about making any mistakes - I am the host of last resort! But I will host your game if it's on Thursday if you need me to (but I'm not around on Friday).

Posted: **Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:49 am**

Howard will be fully appreciating his wife on Saturday when he returns from Wales, so we are looking to play early Sunday afternoon, anytime before 3 is fine. About 1?

Any offers to host would be greatly appreciated.

Dinos

Posted: **Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:15 pm**

Kirk Bevins wrote:
David O'Donnell wrote:
Julian Fell wrote:
Looks like I won't have to play David O'Donnell

I might have to play Jono
Out of the tepid bath and into the fire.

Yo, Bevins, when do you wanna do it? Will have to be via msn, unfortunately.
On a weekend? Some time on Saturday afternoon/evening? Edit: I'm meeting someone on Saturday and so I don't think it's a good idea. Let's try Sunday instead.

I am stuck with library access at the moment and will have no access on Sunday. Most evenings during the week suit best presuming we can start around 6.

Posted: **Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:44 pm**

Karen Pearson wrote:
Julie T wrote: I could host Karen and Steven's game on Wednesday, if they haven't found anyone else to host yet, and then perhaps one of them could host our game on Thurs or Fri.
Thanks Julie. Don't worry about making any mistakes - I am the host of last resort! But I will host your game if it's on Thursday if you need me to (but I'm not around on Friday).

Thanks, Karen. Just to be clear, do you want me to host your match at 6pm tonight?

Posted: **Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:57 pm**

Yes please, Julie. If you're still available. Thanks.

Posted: **Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:18 pm**

Julie T wrote:

Thanks, Karen. Just to be clear, do you want me to host your match at 6pm tonight?

Karen Pearson wrote:Yes please, Julie. If you're still available. Thanks.

Great, 'see' you then!

Posted: **Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:24 pm**

Julie T wrote:
Julie T wrote:

Thanks, Karen. Just to be clear, do you want me to host your match at 6pm tonight?

Karen Pearson wrote:Yes please, Julie. If you're still available. Thanks.
Great, 'see' you then!

I should be online around that time, be sure to invite me in, please, if there is a game on.

Posted: **Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:24 pm**

Dinos Sfyris wrote:Howard will be fully appreciating his wife on Saturday when he returns from Wales

What I really said was that I'd be saying "hello" to her. But you put it so much nicer, Dinos.

Posted: **Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:17 pm**

David O'Donnell wrote:

I should be online around that time, be sure to invite me in, please, if there is a game on.

Fine by me, if it's OK with the contestants.
I'd appreciate spectator banter, since it'll be only my second go at hosting a game. I'll probably be concentrating on that, rather than being chatty.

Posted: **Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:10 pm**

I think Jono and Julian are the only ones that haven't publicly announced a date so far. For Countdown I mean, not a wedding.

Posted: **Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:23 pm**

Martin Gardner wrote:I think Jono and Julian are the only ones that haven't publicly announced a date so far. For Countdown I mean, not a wedding.

I'm pretty sure Jono said it was tonight.

Posted: **Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:03 pm**

Julian Fell wrote: Jono vs. Julian is going to be on Thursday at 8:30pm, on MSN (sorry Charlie) - can anyone be there then to host please?

Posted: **Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:36 pm**

http://www.countdownwiki.com/Episode_CG37

Posted: **Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:45 am**

Yes Martin, you said Jono and I were the only ones who hadn't announced a date, when in fact we were the only pair of quarter-finalists (out of those who had yet to play) who HAD announced when we would be playing... curious.

Anyway result was Jon O'Neill 90-97 Julian Fell

Posted: **Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:01 pm**

David - when can you play? I am struggling to find time before tomorrow to play my game - tonight after school we are going bowling then drinking and Saturday I'm busy during the majority of the day. I can play early Saturday afternoon before I go out for the afternoon/evening but I don't think my friend would be appreciative if I told her I had to come home to play a COGST game instead of spending time with her! What do you want to do - Martin has set a deadline of 11:59pm on Saturday and I'm concerned. Apterous would take 15 minutes to play and I could play tonight possibly. MSN is harder to organise, takes much longer to do and I haven't got much time but I guess you can't access apterous?

Posted: **Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:02 pm**

Kirk Bevins wrote:I don't think my friend would be appreciative if I told her I had to come home to play a COGST game instead of spending time with her!

So that's why I don't have a girlfriend.

Posted: **Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:26 pm**

Michael Wallace wrote:http://www.countdownwiki.com/Episode_CG37

Oooh! I'm on wiki!

Thanks, Michael.

Posted: **Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:53 pm**

I also noticed that David and Kirk haven't set a date for their game, is everything alright, chaps?

Posted: **Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:49 pm**

Martin Gardner wrote:I also noticed that David and Kirk haven't set a date for their game, is everything alright, chaps?

Read above, Martin. I've only just noticed your deadline - and I'm starting to panic. David can only access the internet in the library so hasn't got as much access as me and also can't do it via apterous, so I'm not sure what's going on - we just have to wait for David to reply.

Posted: **Fri Oct 03, 2008 5:55 pm**

He may end up forfeiting, which is an enormous shame but then we can't wait forever either. Jason can't play until Tuesday so I'll give you until the end of Tuesday as well.

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