Aptobash II: Live News

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:16 pm

This thread will be updated throughout the tournament with live news of the event. To remind you, games start at 6.30 and we aim to finish the main tournament by 9.30, with a best-of-3 final to follow.

18:30: We're underway, with 22 players including a few late entrants and a few no-shows (I'll deal with you later

.) Thanks to CF who's standing in as a substitute.
19:23: After enough technical problems to sink a small ship and the unfortunate exit of Paul Howe due to computer issues, Round 1 is complete! Kirk Bevins is top with a winning spread of +100.
20:08: After a further disaster in which we had to wait half an hour for one game, Round 2 is complete! Dinos moves into first place with a spread of +137 but Kirk has overcome a difficult opponent in Jono to hold second. James, Chris, Junaid and Kai are all also tied 2 wins.
20:30: Almost on schedule, Round 3 is complete. Kirk's crushing defeat of Dinos takes him back to 1st, while Junaid and Kai also remain unbeaten.
21:30: A busy hour, but Round 5 of 8 is now complete. Kirk is now the only unbeaten player, with Jono, Kai and Junaid chasing on 4 wins. Round 5 also saw a first win of the tournament for newbie Jack Hurst, after he defeated Sid on a second crucial conundrum.
21:47: End of Round 6 and Kirk is still unbeaten, now on a ridiculous spread of +243 and almost guaranteed a place in the final. Junaid scored an important win over Jono to take undisputed 2nd, but with 5 players just one win behind, that second spot in the final is still anyone's.
23:00: Collapse in a heap. My own Internet connection failed for most of Round 7 and by the time I got back almost everyone had lost interest. Hopefully we'll complete the final in the next few days.

Oliver Garner · Post by **Oliver Garner** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:52 pm

Can't log back in

James Hurrell · Post by **James Hurrell** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:53 pm

Same - cannot log in - please wait for me on R2!

Eoin Monaghan · Post by **Eoin Monaghan** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:57 pm

Oliver Garner wrote:Can't log back in

Same here- And I'm not even playing!

Lee Simmonds · Post by **Lee Simmonds** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:58 pm

I can't get back in either!

Eoin Monaghan · Post by **Eoin Monaghan** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:01 pm

Lee Simmonds wrote:I can't get back in either!

I'm in

Oliver Garner · Post by **Oliver Garner** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:05 pm

Down again

James Hurrell · Post by **James Hurrell** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:05 pm

I was in....but now out again!!!

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:14 pm

If everyone can just be cool for a couple of minutes, we should be ready to go again.

Martin Gardner · Post by **Martin Gardner** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:34 pm

I managed to log on to watch, and it kicked me off after about two minutes! D'oh!

Ian Volante · Post by **Ian Volante** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:40 pm

I challenged Jim, chat died, got no reply, logged off and can't yet get back in. Still trying.

JimBentley · Post by **JimBentley** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:47 pm

I can't get in at all, I'm afraid. I've tried.

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:48 pm

Patience, it'll be back up soon.

Ian Volante · Post by **Ian Volante** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:49 pm

JimBentley wrote:I can't get in at all, I'm afraid. I've tried.

I'm still trying. At least it's both of us.

Innis Carson · Post by **Innis Carson** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:50 pm

Well played Ben, by the way.

Junaid Mubeen · Post by **Junaid Mubeen** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:52 pm

Unable to get back in

Ian Volante · Post by **Ian Volante** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:53 pm

I just got "connection refused" instead of could not connect, which is a change. I wouldn't go so far as to call it progress however.

Ian Volante · Post by **Ian Volante** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:53 pm

Ian Volante wrote:I just got "connection refused" instead of could not connect, which is a change. I wouldn't go so far as to call it progress however.

AH, server reset I reckon.

Chris Davies · Post by **Chris Davies** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:02 pm

My internet is completely failing, in addition to the site being shaky. Every letter I pick is taking a ridiculous amount of time to appear, and I actually didn't even get to see one of the conundrums at all (heard the beep, but no letters), and Kai buzzed correctly before I could even reload the game.

So, I am forced to withdraw from the tournament. I apologise very much for any logistical nightmares it may cause, but I am completely unable to play right now. This isn't just the site - it's definitely my own internet connection being especially problematic. And what a time for it to happen.

Martin Gardner · Post by **Martin Gardner** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:09 pm

Sigh, it kicked me off again.

James Hurrell · Post by **James Hurrell** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:06 pm

struggling to get back in to finish R7 with Innis...

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:08 pm

Should be back up now. Sigh.

Lee Simmonds · Post by **Lee Simmonds** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:15 pm

Not me unfortunately. I'll give it another 5 mins or so but after that I'm gonna have to call it a night. Sorry Jon as we didn't get to finish our game.

Jeremy Miles · Post by **Jeremy Miles** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:18 pm

Do you think many would mind if it ended at round 7?

Michael Wallace · Post by **Michael Wallace** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:18 pm

Seems rather broken for me too (thought not CF). Oh well, shall keep trying.

tomrowell · Post by **tomrowell** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:28 pm

i cant get back in now either, its been ok for me tonight till now

Ian Volante · Post by **Ian Volante** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:30 pm

tomrowell wrote:i cant get back in now either, its been ok for me tonight till now

You were in the room just then!

Ian Volante · Post by **Ian Volante** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:32 pm

It seems people in the room can chat, but no-one can get in.

And for completeness if it finishes here, I beat Allan Harmer 66-63. Just want to get a positive win record...

JimBentley · Post by **JimBentley** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:44 pm

I think there's another round to go, but I can't get back in.

I've been fucking appalling all night, so it's probably for the best.

Innis Carson · Post by **Innis Carson** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:46 pm

I've got shut out now as well. I was really enjoying the party too.

Oliver Garner · Post by **Oliver Garner** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:48 pm

Is the last round still going ahead?

Ian Volante · Post by **Ian Volante** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:49 pm

Oliver Garner wrote:Is the last round still going ahead?

Doubtful. Thanks for running this Charlie, I've enjoyed it mostly, and even though my standard was mince, I've got at least an even record, which surprises me greatly.

Dan Vanniasingham · Post by **Dan Vanniasingham** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:51 pm

Oliver Garner wrote:Is the last round still going ahead?

It's me v you, but I challenged one of you (there appeared to be 4) and was instantly kicked off the server. Sit tight.

Ian Volante · Post by **Ian Volante** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:53 pm

Dan Vanniasingham wrote:
Oliver Garner wrote:Is the last round still going ahead?
It's me v you, but I challenged one of you (there appeared to be 4) and was instantly kicked off the server. Sit tight.

Round 8's been drawn has it?

Jeremy Miles · Post by **Jeremy Miles** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:54 pm

I'm out.

Dan Vanniasingham · Post by **Dan Vanniasingham** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:12 pm

Dan Vanniasingham wrote:
Oliver Garner wrote:Is the last round still going ahead?
It's me v you, but I challenged one of you (there appeared to be 4) and was instantly kicked off the server. Sit tight.

My chat broke almost instantly, and I'm not touching apterous again tonight! Well played mate.

Allan Harmer · Post by **Allan Harmer** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:12 pm

Been trying to get in to play my last game with Innis but it appears to be down.

Junaid Mubeen · Post by **Junaid Mubeen** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:15 pm

I can't seem to get back in. Paul beat me 97-73 in my final game. I reckon this rules me out of the reckoning for the final. Even if I have somehow made it, I'm off for the night.

Thanks for organising Charlie and thanks to everyone for a good tourny (except Paul, damn you!).

Innis Carson · Post by **Innis Carson** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:16 pm

Oh, I didn't realise I was due to play, sorry. I can't get in either anyway.

Jimmy Gough · Post by **Jimmy Gough** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:16 pm

I thought I just posted my reply.......oh well, thanks for the bashing

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:21 pm

I give up. The whole thing has been awful and I think it's clear that the frail status of the server makes it totally unsuitable for large tournaments. Sorry for everyone who took part and spent most of the evening waiting around or trying to log in.

tomrowell · Post by **tomrowell** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:24 pm

Thanks for doing your best anyway Charlie, much appreciated

Allan Harmer · Post by **Allan Harmer** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:26 pm

No problem Charlie - Thanks for all your hard work in keeping it going.

I really enjoyed the tournament and had some good games against sporting opponents.

Cheers!

Al

Innis Carson · Post by **Innis Carson** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:31 pm

I still had great fun tonight, even if it seemed awful from your side of it I'm still glad this took place tonight and utterly appreciate the unseen effort that went into it. The fact that a couple of games fewer than planned took place barely detracts from it at all.

Ben Wilson · Post by **Ben Wilson** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:09 am

Allan Harmer wrote:No problem Charlie - Thanks for all your hard work in keeping it going.

I really enjoyed the tournament and had some good games against sporting opponents.

Cheers!

Al

Seconded. You did brilliantly despite seemingly having the wrath of several mystical beings crashing down on you from a great height, and we all played seven games and had fun doing so. And I at least managed to get revenge over Mr. Hurrell for the earlier embarrassment that was round 2.

...And sorry I didn't answer the phone earlier, I still had it on silent from yesterday

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Paul Howe · Post by **Paul Howe** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:11 am

Don't worry Charlie, think everyone had a good time regardless and appreciates all the effort you put in.

Quite relieved from a personal perspective, as I think I'd have ended up blagging my way into the final and feeling wretched about it. I didn't realise Dinos was still in contention when I took his place, just wanted to get a couple of games in.

Junaid Mubeen · Post by **Junaid Mubeen** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:26 am

Just got back. It's a shame we didn't get through it all but I had massive fun playing my games. I can only imagine how stressed out you must've been during the course of the evening, Charlie. So just wanna say thanks again for organising, I had a great time, even the banter in between games was fun.

Tell you what, let's just say I won, Kirk came second and Jono came 3rd. Agreed?

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:30 am

Junaid Mubeen wrote:Just got back. It's a shame we didn't get through it all but I had massive fun playing my games. I can only imagine how stressed out you must've been during the course of the evening, Charlie. So just wanna say thanks again for organising, I had a great time, even the banter in between games was fun.

Tell you what, let's just say I won, Kirk came second and Jono came 3rd. Agreed?

Thanks Charlie for organising it and I echo all the above sentiments. And oi, let me win something for once - please?

Junaid Mubeen · Post by **Junaid Mubeen** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:37 am

Kirk Bevins wrote:
Junaid Mubeen wrote:Just got back. It's a shame we didn't get through it all but I had massive fun playing my games. I can only imagine how stressed out you must've been during the course of the evening, Charlie. So just wanna say thanks again for organising, I had a great time, even the banter in between games was fun.

Tell you what, let's just say I won, Kirk came second and Jono came 3rd. Agreed?

Thanks Charlie for organising it and I echo all the above sentiments. And oi, let me win something for once - please?

SPOILER, this means you lose your first heat game. Omg this is shocking!!!!!!

Provide an inductive argument for why you should win and it's all yours.

Seriously though, I do think Captain Kirk should be awarded the title.

Rob Thomas · Post by **Rob Thomas** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:05 pm

Thanks Charlie for organising the bash. I wussed out shamefully before it even started due to "family pressure" so I wasn't even there but I still appreciate the efforts you put in to give us this excellent piece of software, and to put on the bash.

Out of interest, what would it take to decrease your stress levels (re. server)? Is it a case of a more powerful machine hosted at an ISP? Is that something that could be priced up and we all contribute to?

Thanks again.

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:43 pm

Rob Thomas wrote:Out of interest, what would it take to decrease your stress levels (re. server)? Is it a case of a more powerful machine hosted at an ISP? Is that something that could be priced up and we all contribute to?

Appreciated but no, I believe the problems are mostly caused by software problems which are only likely to arise when a large number of players are playing at once, making them extremely difficult to reproduce or eliminate.

Gary Male · Post by **Gary Male** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:46 pm

Charlie Reams wrote:
Rob Thomas wrote:Out of interest, what would it take to decrease your stress levels (re. server)? Is it a case of a more powerful machine hosted at an ISP? Is that something that could be priced up and we all contribute to?
Appreciated but no, I believe the problems are mostly caused by software problems which are only likely to arise when a large number of players are playing at once, making them extremely difficult to reproduce or eliminate.

Unless we were to have an AptoCrash night, in which everyone logged in takes preceise actions to help get some controlled data?

Naomi Laddiman · Post by **Naomi Laddiman** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:56 pm

Charlie, thanks for organising aptobash. Although I don't do much other than practice on apterous because I'm so crap, the boys get a lot out of it and I'd like to thank you for all the hard work you put into it. Maybe one day, with enough practice, I'll be able to enter one of the tournaments myself (in my dreams) if you're still mad enough to organise and run them, which I hope you are - everyone involved seems to thoroughly enjoy them and I certainly enjoy spectating and laughing at some of the chat that goes on! Keep up the good work!

Ian Dent · Post by **Ian Dent** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:21 pm

Terribly sorry. Completely forgot.

JimBentley · Post by **JimBentley** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:27 pm

Charlie Reams wrote:I give up. The whole thing has been awful and I think it's clear that the frail status of the server makes it totally unsuitable for large tournaments. Sorry for everyone who took part and spent most of the evening waiting around or trying to log in.

Nah, don't be daft. OK, things were a bit chaotic, but that didn't detract from the fun of the competition, which was excellent as expected. Hope this hasn't put you off doing more Bashes in the future, cos they're cool.

However, I do intend to play the next one sober. I mean seriously, I don't know what the fuck I was thinking yesterday. Looking on the bright side though, I'm fortunately unable to recall most of the details of all my humiliating defeats

Ian Volante · Post by **Ian Volante** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:38 pm

I like the idea of the Aptocrash. Some regimented stress testing I'm sure is something we can help with!

Kai Laddiman · Post by **Kai Laddiman** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:04 pm

Me and GJ decided on MSN that we were in the final and the game finished 99-70 to me, as I got RELATIONS, ORDINATES and ZEMINDARI, all of which he missed, but he beat me with POOFTER. Agreed?

Eoin Monaghan · Post by **Eoin Monaghan** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:50 pm

Kai Laddiman wrote:Me and GJ decided on MSN that we were in the final and the game finished 99-70 to me, as I got RELATIONS, ORDINATES and ZEMINDARI, all of which he missed, but he beat me with POOFTER. Agreed?

I'm too lazy to check- who's GJ?

Jon O'Neill · Post by **Jon O'Neill** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:28 pm

Eoin Monaghan wrote:
Kai Laddiman wrote:Me and GJ decided on MSN that we were in the final and the game finished 99-70 to me, as I got RELATIONS, ORDINATES and ZEMINDARI, all of which he missed, but he beat me with POOFTER. Agreed?
I'm too lazy to check- who's GJ?

Ginger Jono, whoever that is.

Jon Corby · Post by **Jon Corby** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:51 pm

Rats, I was hoping it was George Jenkins.