Black To Front Spoilers for Friday 10 September 2021 (Series 84, Preliminary 54)

[Rhys Benjamin]

For some reason, this episode is already on All4.

[Tom S]

Already available on All4 if you want to watch it in advance, but today's episode sees former contestant Jodine Lawrence from Brum take on Loughborough Uni Maths + Stats student Samuel Williams. Both playing for a game against current champ's chair contestant Adele on Monday.

[Gavin Chipper]

Very coincidence that two threads for this came up almost simultaneously.

[Rhys Benjamin]

I woz furst

[Tom S]

I woz furst

For the record, there was no thread for today when I opened the other one, but Rhys managed to get this one open before I finished mine

[Gavin Chipper]

75 × 5 - 100 + 10 - 2 - 7 = 276 for the first numbers.

[Philip A]

Ah, so this IS part of the regular series, but determines who plays the following series. Interesting.

[Johnny Canuck]

Also a bit weird that it was a formerly winning returnee vs. a new person IMO.

[Philip A]

Wonder whether or not they’ll now put all the episodes on All4 before airing, like some programmes do these days.

I didn’t expect this episode to change both contestants and have it determine who will play the following episode.

Anyway, I thought the whole show was handled very professionally, and I’m gonna say this: Sir Trevor McDonald is the best presenter.

Great to see Jodine back. I had the pleasure of meeting her in the green room during filming day of the Series 78/79 carryover.

[Carl Harrison]

Is Jodine the first person to appear in a normal series on 3 separate occasions? (not counting people carrying forward from one series to the next). There certainly can't be many others, albeit her circumstances are somewhat different - I presume she was invited back for this episode specially, rather than reapplying.

[Johnny Canuck]

Is Jodine the first person to appear in a normal series on 3 separate occasions? (not counting people carrying forward from one series to the next). There certainly can't be many others, albeit her circumstances are somewhat different - I presume she was invited back for this episode specially, rather than reapplying.

No, Mick Purdie did this in Series 78, but I believe Jodine may be the first person to have two winning runs + one losing run.

[Fiona T]

Yeah thought it was great, given that they were all brand new to it. Loved Anne-Marie writing in the squares

[Philip A]

Mick Purdie info: https://wiki.apterous.org/Mick_Purdie

[Tom S]

Could well see Anne-Marie being Rachel's maternity cover...Trevor was good- his presenting style reminded me of when Nick was at the helm. Enjoyed Lemn's OOL section and found Marverine to be engaging. Good job all.

[Gavin Chipper]

I know we had a big discussion about this a while ago, and I shouldn't be prejudiced and everything, and I'm all for diversity, but Anne-Marie said "haitch".

[Phil H]

I enjoyed the change from the usual shitey adverts during the breaks.

[Toby McDonald]

I thought this was a great episode too, good job by everyone.

RATHOLED in R7

R6 Alt.: 75/(2+1)*25+100+50 = 775
R14 Alt.: (8+3+3)*6*10+25 = 865

[Rhys Benjamin]

Trevor: good.
Marverine: great.
Lemn: great.
Anne-Marie: not so good.

[Gavin Chipper]

Trevor: good.
Marverine: great.
Lemn: great.
Anne-Marie: not so good.

Anne-Marie's job is the most hands on and it probably takes a little while to get in the swing of things - getting the numbers out quickly while everyone's watching you without being self-conscious about it etc. - so I wouldn't really judge her too harshly.

[Ian Volante]

I know we had a big discussion about this a while ago, and I shouldn't be prejudiced and everything, and I'm all for diversity, but Anne-Marie said "haitch".

Some dialects do this.

[Gavin Chipper]

I know we had a big discussion about this a while ago, and I shouldn't be prejudiced and everything, and I'm all for diversity, but Anne-Marie said "haitch".

Some dialects do this.

Yeah I know. It was supposed to be a joke.

[Philip A]

Trevor: good.
Marverine: great.
Lemn: great.
Anne-Marie: not so good.

Anne-Marie's job is the most hands on and it probably takes a little while to get in the swing of things - getting the numbers out quickly while everyone's watching you without being self-conscious about it etc. - so I wouldn't really judge her too harshly.

Totally agree. Carol Vorderman was shy and slow in Episode 1.

[Ian Volante]

I know we had a big discussion about this a while ago, and I shouldn't be prejudiced and everything, and I'm all for diversity, but Anne-Marie said "haitch".

Some dialects do this.

Yeah I know. It was supposed to be a joke.

Difficult in plain text. And I'm terribly defensive about stupid accents.

[Noel Mc]

I know we had a big discussion about this a while ago, and I shouldn't be prejudiced and everything, and I'm all for diversity, but Anne-Marie said "haitch".

Not sure if I've shared this story on here before. In Belfast (and the surrounding area) how you say that letter aitch/haitch, is often used as a certain signifier. In the 80s (apparently) people would be stopped and asked to say the alphabet.

I taught in a school in which the majority of pupils said one particular version. Teaching maths, I often used the letter in examples etc. I just decided from the off to use the version that the majority of pupils used.

Every so often however I would drop in the other version. You would very often see the pupils glancing round at eachother, like I'd sworn in the middle of trigonometry or something.

[Gavin Chipper]

Yes, I remember the discussion, and it was that discussion that I was alluding to and was connected to the "joke".

[Noel Mc]

Yes, I remember the discussion, and it was that discussion that I was alluding to and was connected to the "joke".

I appreciated it