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Marc Meakin wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:35 am In the 2030s we will be putting driverless cars in here
I think it will be cars that require a driver actually.

However, some over-engineered stuff should go in here. Electric windows in cars - they barely save any effort, and they're something that can go wrong. And anything that uses an electronic mechanism to take in or eject a disc/tape etc. Complete joke items.
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Callum Todd wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:20 am
Matt Rutherford wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:16 am Manual gearboxes (for your average car-lorries and other vehicles are a different story, I know). Automatic is far easier to deal with, not having to fuck about with the clutch and it makes roundabouts much simpler to navigate. About the only thing the US has got right is the demise of 'stickshift.'

(N.B-This was written by a learner driver who has the general co-ordination of an orangutan on a step-ladder)
There are definitely situations in which having a manual helps. If you need a quick burst of acceleration it can help to downshift, for example. But yeah, it would probably be easier if cars were automatic by default, with the option of manually selecting a gear on the odd occasion you really needed to.
They could just have semi-automatic gears like in F1 cars where you basically just press a button to change gear.
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Gavin Chipper wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:23 pm
Callum Todd wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:20 am
Matt Rutherford wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:16 am Manual gearboxes (for your average car-lorries and other vehicles are a different story, I know). Automatic is far easier to deal with, not having to fuck about with the clutch and it makes roundabouts much simpler to navigate. About the only thing the US has got right is the demise of 'stickshift.'

(N.B-This was written by a learner driver who has the general co-ordination of an orangutan on a step-ladder)
There are definitely situations in which having a manual helps. If you need a quick burst of acceleration it can help to downshift, for example. But yeah, it would probably be easier if cars were automatic by default, with the option of manually selecting a gear on the odd occasion you really needed to.
They could just have semi-automatic gears like in F1 cars where you basically just press a button to change gear.
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I rather like my gearstick!
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Fiona T wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:22 pm I rather like my gearstick!
Fiona T wrote: Fri May 01, 2020 10:06 pm They fall into the same category as ties. Most joke objects are phalluses.
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Thanks Gevin. You made it a lot more SFW than I was planning to.
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The hyphen
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Marc Meakin wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:52 am The hyphen
"Students get first hand job experience".
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Marc Meakin wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:52 am The hyphen
Our IT helpdesk at work also decided that the hyphen was a joke item, and introduced a new rule meaning that it wasn't allowed in anyone's name. Boy was that fun for me. The number of internal processes that just don't work for me any more is ridiculous. The best one was when we rolled a new system for ordering lunches and it was decided that we should the old system without first testing the new one, which didn't work for those unlucky souls with names deemed unacceptable by our IT overlords. At least I'm still getting paid.
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Sam Cappleman-Lynes wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:02 pm
Marc Meakin wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:52 am The hyphen
Our IT helpdesk at work also decided that the hyphen was a joke item, and introduced a new rule meaning that it wasn't allowed in anyone's name. Boy was that fun for me. The number of internal processes that just don't work for me any more is ridiculous. The best one was when we rolled a new system for ordering lunches and it was decided that we should the old system without first testing the new one, which didn't work for those unlucky souls with names deemed unacceptable by our IT overlords. At least I'm still getting paid.
They're right - a hyphen in your name is a joke item.
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Jon O'Neill wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:17 pm
Sam Cappleman-Lynes wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:02 pm
Marc Meakin wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:52 am The hyphen
Our IT helpdesk at work also decided that the hyphen was a joke item, and introduced a new rule meaning that it wasn't allowed in anyone's name. Boy was that fun for me. The number of internal processes that just don't work for me any more is ridiculous. The best one was when we rolled a new system for ordering lunches and it was decided that we should the old system without first testing the new one, which didn't work for those unlucky souls with names deemed unacceptable by our IT overlords. At least I'm still getting paid.
They're right - a hyphen in your name is a joke item.
Not hyphen but name related.
I remember working with a man from Cork who took umbridge because his name on his payslip said Andy Onions instead of O'Nions.

Back to the hyphen my eldest girl said Coop instead of Co-op , but I corrected her, so later that day we took her to the chemist to buy toiletries into what she then called Bo-ots
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Most of you can ignore, but the software folks amongst you might appreciate this - I think we all have a duty to name our kids in a way to give us as much work as possible!

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/445 ... onscript-3
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Jon O'Neill wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:17 pm
Sam Cappleman-Lynes wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:02 pm
Marc Meakin wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:52 am The hyphen
Our IT helpdesk at work also decided that the hyphen was a joke item, and introduced a new rule meaning that it wasn't allowed in anyone's name. Boy was that fun for me. The number of internal processes that just don't work for me any more is ridiculous. The best one was when we rolled a new system for ordering lunches and it was decided that we should the old system without first testing the new one, which didn't work for those unlucky souls with names deemed unacceptable by our IT overlords. At least I'm still getting paid.
They're right - a hyphen in your name is a joke item.
Double-barrelled surnames are joke items anyway. Lots of parents think they're being all cool and liberal by using both parents' surnames, when in reality they're giving their child an annoying and unwieldy name, and perhaps more importantly, they're being incredibly short-sighted. Taken to its logical conclusions, the lengths of surnames will double every generation.
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Toffee. Things pretending to be chewy caramel when really they're just hard toffee. Things pretending to be not just caramel, but soft caramel, when they're still just fucking hard toffee.
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Fiona T wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:53 pm Most of you can ignore, but the software folks amongst you might appreciate this - I think we all have a duty to name our kids in a way to give us as much work as possible!

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/445 ... onscript-3
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Fiona T wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:53 pm Most of you can ignore, but the software folks amongst you might appreciate this - I think we all have a duty to name our kids in a way to give us as much work as possible!

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/445 ... onscript-3
And this of course:

https://xkcd.com/327/
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It reminds me of when Richard Brittain wrote random bits of code in Apterous tickets, presumably trying to break the website.
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Not so much a joke item but more a joke ritual.
1) Funeral Cars.....why can't people use their own cars.
2) the standing up and sitting down after hymns at a funeral service.
3) the excessive purchases of flowers at a funeral.
I have four siblings we only need one wreath to say mum.
I would rather give to charity.
Trying to hold some kind of wake in the garden during covid , surely it's better to postpone and have a memorial.
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The "Only show episodes I can actually fucking watch" checkbox on All 4 when I'm looking for the relevant Countdown game. No, I would prefer it if you just listed some random dates that happened to have Countdown on them. Also, why put them in reverse order and why not have the date they were last shown as well as the original transmission date? So moronic.
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Bowling shoes.
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Gavin Chipper wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:12 am Bowling shoes.
Golfing shoes can be added to that list.
Most golfing clothes too.
Only a seventies pimp would where some of the getup that's acceptable on the golf course
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Marc Meakin wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:23 am
Gavin Chipper wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:12 am Bowling shoes.
Golfing shoes can be added to that list.
Most golfing clothes too.
Only a seventies pimp would where some of the getup that's acceptable on the golf course
Sure, but you're not made to wear golfing shoes are you? With bowling shoes, you go into a bowling place and they make you give them your shoes (which you have to trust them with), and in return you get these rubbish shoes you have to wear to "protect their floor" or something.

But presumably you're not meant to walk in the actual lanes where the balls go anyway, and the surface can't be that precious given the that it has to put up with ridiculously heavy balls continually crashing into it - especially from people that aren't very good at bowling so the ball catches in their fingers and goes really high up in the air before crashing back down.

And if it's about dirt getting on the tiny bit of the lane that your foot might accidentally encroach by 5mm every 400th time you bowl, just clean that bit of floor when it gets dirty. Is it really worth making everyone wear a stupid pair of shoes for? (That's a rhetorical question by the way. The answer's "no".)
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I used to go ice skating in my youth and bought my own skates to avoid all this queuing up and wearing second hand shoes that a quick squirt of odour eaters is meant to prevent catching something and the laces were invariably frayed/ broken.
Maybe buying your own bowling shoes is the solution
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Marc Meakin wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:05 pm Maybe buying your own bowling shoes is the solution
Would they allow that? They'd have to do some bowling shoe test on them.
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Snooker cues. Why do I have to use the equipment provided that has been specifically designed to play the sport properly? Why can't I just use a stick I found or roll the balls with my hand?
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Mark James wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:08 pm Snooker cues. Why do I have to use the equipment provided that has been specifically designed to play the sport properly? Why can't I just use a stick I found or roll the balls with my hand?
Good point, why can't I use my hands in football too? Or maybe a tennis racket in rounders?
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Bowling alleys haven't made you use their shoes for, I dunno, a long time. You just wear your own, as you're in flats.

That said, I still get bowling shoes because they are absolutely awesome.
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Mark James wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:08 pm Snooker cues. Why do I have to use the equipment provided that has been specifically designed to play the sport properly? Why can't I just use a stick I found or roll the balls with my hand?
Because
A) that would be shit
B) It would fuck up the table and the balls

By all means if you have your own snooker table and set of snooker balls feel free to play it however you like. The table and balls will be unplayable quite quickly but that shouldn't be a problem as you'll soon get bored anyway once you realise it doesn't work.

It's be like renting a football pitch for an hour then moving the football about with a golf club. You'd have a shit game of football and fuck the pitch and ball up.
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Callum Todd wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:36 am
Mark James wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:08 pm Snooker cues. Why do I have to use the equipment provided that has been specifically designed to play the sport properly? Why can't I just use a stick I found or roll the balls with my hand?
Because
A) that would be shit
B) It would fuck up the table and the balls

By all means if you have your own snooker table and set of snooker balls feel free to play it however you like. The table and balls will be unplayable quite quickly but that shouldn't be a problem as you'll soon get bored anyway once you realise it doesn't work.

It's be like renting a football pitch for an hour then moving the football about with a golf club. You'd have a shit game of football and fuck the pitch and ball up.
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Matt Morrison wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:35 pm Bowling alleys haven't made you use their shoes for, I dunno, a long time. You just wear your own, as you're in flats.

That said, I still get bowling shoes because they are absolutely awesome.
Awesome in what way?
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Sorry everyone. I forgot to engage sarcasm font. My snooker cue post was making fun of Gavin. Bowling shoes are a specifically designed piece of sports equipment made to play the sport just as cues are.
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Bowling shoes are awesome in that they are designed to help you play the game properly and reduce injury. They weren't just designed to personally annoy Gevin. (That's just a happy coincidence). They allow for a degree of sliding that regular footwear doesn't and you don't want to scuff up the throwing surface as that can also prevent proper sliding and can cause injury. A simple Google would have provided the actual reason rather than guessing and asking rhetorical questions but Gavin is obviously incurious and belongs in the people you shouldn't trust thread.
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Mark James wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:14 am Bowling shoes are awesome in that they are designed to help you play the game properly and reduce injury. They weren't just designed to personally annoy Gevin. (That's just a happy coincidence). They allow for a degree of sliding that regular footwear doesn't and you don't want to scuff up the throwing surface as that can also prevent proper sliding and can cause injury. A simple Google would have provided the actual reason rather than guessing and asking rhetorical questions but Gavin is obviously incurious and belongs in the people you shouldn't trust thread.
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Mark James wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:14 am Bowling shoes are awesome in that they are designed to help you play the game properly and reduce injury. They weren't just designed to personally annoy Gevin. (That's just a happy coincidence). They allow for a degree of sliding that regular footwear doesn't and you don't want to scuff up the throwing surface as that can also prevent proper sliding and can cause injury. A simple Google would have provided the actual reason rather than guessing and asking rhetorical questions but Gavin is obviously incurious and belongs in the people you shouldn't trust thread.
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Gavin Chipper wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:40 am
Mark James wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:14 am Bowling shoes are awesome in that they are designed to help you play the game properly and reduce injury. They weren't just designed to personally annoy Gevin. (That's just a happy coincidence). They allow for a degree of sliding that regular footwear doesn't and you don't want to scuff up the throwing surface as that can also prevent proper sliding and can cause injury. A simple Google would have provided the actual reason rather than guessing and asking rhetorical questions but Gavin is obviously incurious and belongs in the people you shouldn't trust thread.
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Mark James wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:14 am Bowling shoes are awesome in that they are designed to help you play the game properly and reduce injury. They weren't just designed to personally annoy Gevin. (That's just a happy coincidence). They allow for a degree of sliding that regular footwear doesn't and you don't want to scuff up the throwing surface as that can also prevent proper sliding and can cause injury. A simple Google would have provided the actual reason rather than guessing and asking rhetorical questions but Gavin is obviously incurious and belongs in the people you shouldn't trust thread.
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The happy coincidence line is a zinger.
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Matt Morrison wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:02 pm
Mark James wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:14 am Bowling shoes are awesome in that they are designed to help you play the game properly and reduce injury. They weren't just designed to personally annoy Gevin. (That's just a happy coincidence). They allow for a degree of sliding that regular footwear doesn't and you don't want to scuff up the throwing surface as that can also prevent proper sliding and can cause injury. A simple Google would have provided the actual reason rather than guessing and asking rhetorical questions but Gavin is obviously incurious and belongs in the people you shouldn't trust thread.
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Callum Todd wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:13 pm The happy coincidence line is a zinger.
Well I was intending to leave this, but since you two have chipped in, I seem to have regained the urge to carry on. Let's look at this:
Bowling shoes are typically made out of leather and rubber. The soles of the shoes act much like the bowling lanes themselves: they are both made to be super slick.

Wearing slick shoes helps you slide while you’re bowling. This is important because it enables you to achieve a smoother motion. If you’re sticking to the floor while you go to throw your bowling ball, you might not have as much control as you normally would. Bowling shoes can also help prevent injuries in bowlers because they allow for the proper bodily movement after a ball is rolled down a lane. If you were to stick instead of slide, you could injure your knee, ankle or foot.

While the soles of bowling shoes are super slick, the heels of the shoes are typically made of rubber, which helps you stop sliding after you throw your ball. Without these stopping mechanisms, bowlers might just keep sliding until they fall!
Yeah, it all sounds very good. But how realistic is it? Why don't javelin throwers need to keep sliding after throwing a javelin? Or bowlers in cricket? In fact, why does no-one in the world who throws stuff need to slide afterwards to avoid injury or indeed allow them to have proper control except for people playing bowling? It sounds like bullshit invented by the inventor of bowling shoes.
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That's it folks. The great bowling shoe conspiracy has been rumbled. Should have realised it wasn't realistic to expect that different techniques for throwing different objects while standing on different surfaces might require different equipment. It was a good ride while it lasted. I'm off to sell my shares in Bowling Shoe Inc. before the news hits the wider population.
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I think Gavin has a point. That article he links does seem to make some good points, but does so without offering evidence and I'm suspicious of the bias it may have. Especially the protect the lanes bit seems off, for reasons Gavin has already laid out in this thread. Good debate!
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Waistcoats....unless you are playing snooker.
I'm forced to wear one today 😢 having difficulty breathing
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Mark James wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:12 am That's it folks. The great bowling shoe conspiracy has been rumbled. Should have realised it wasn't realistic to expect that different techniques for throwing different objects while standing on different surfaces might require different equipment. It was a good ride while it lasted. I'm off to sell my shares in Bowling Shoe Inc. before the news hits the wider population.
But if you see it from the point of view of a random person who goes bowling once every 3.7 years, the whole thing does seem a bit weird. You're made to change shoes (well, Matt says you apparently don't have to any more) with no explanation, and most people just assume it's something to do with protecting the floor (see earlier post). But apparently it has something to do with making it better for you and your technique. But then why should they give a toss whether you change your shoes or not? And would it really make much difference for the average person? It seems a bit like turning up to a parkrun and being made to change into a pair of Nike Alphaflys for the event.
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But if you see it from the point of view of a random person who goes bowling once every 3.7 years, the whole thing does seem a bit weird.
I don't get what's weird about it though. You use the proper equipment for the sport. For me it's no different to wearing ice skates to go ice skating or using cues to play snooker. Is it just because you have to wear a shoe someone else has already worn? Is it not weirder to have to stick your fingers in the holes of the bowling ball that someone else has?

It's probably more than 3.7 years since I've been bowling so you can count me as one of those random people, it's not like I'm some uber bowling fan who's really invested in defending bowling shoes, if i do go bowling, like most people I just wear the things and get on with my life. It's not that big a deal. Fair play that you're the kind of person who questions things but it seems like your ignoring the answer just to be contrarian.
and most people just assume it's something to do with protecting the floor (see earlier post). But apparently it has something to do with making it better for you and your technique.
These are not mutually exclusive. It is about protecting the floor. The floor needs to be protected to allow you to perform the optimal technique. And optimal technique is not just about improving your score (which it rarely does for that random person every 3.7 years) it's about safety and injury prevention. Also your earlier post seemed to be confusing the floor of the throwing area with actual lane where the ball goes.
But then why should they give a toss whether you change your shoes or not? And would it really make much difference for the average person?
In terms of improving the average person's scoring performance probably not but again you seem to be ignoring the safety aspect of it. Maybe making you wear the shoes reduces the bowling alley's liability for injury.
It seems a bit like turning up to a parkrun and being made to change into a pair of Nike Alphaflys for the event.
It's more like someone arriving to a park run wearing high heels and being asked to change into more suitable footwear, particularly if the organisers could be held liable for injuries sustained.
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Mark James wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:13 am
But if you see it from the point of view of a random person who goes bowling once every 3.7 years, the whole thing does seem a bit weird.
I don't get what's weird about it though. You use the proper equipment for the sport. For me it's no different to wearing ice skates to go ice skating or using cues to play snooker. Is it just because you have to wear a shoe someone else has already worn? Is it not weirder to have to stick your fingers in the holes of the bowling ball that someone else has?
For other things it's often quite obvious why you need special equipment - like ice skating. And it's also quite obvious that you at least need something that does a very good impression of a snooker cue to be able to play properly. Whereas with bowling, there's not that intuition connection, other than "well it's the case for other sports - why not this one?"

But anyway, there's only so much that one can argue that black is white, and while bowling shoes certainly seem like a joke item on the surface, it might just be possible that they serve some purpose. I was going to leave it with your original reply anyway, but Matt and Callum got me started up again.
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Next time you go bowling , sometime in 2023/4 , try to bring extra footwear , play two games , one with bowling shoes on and one without and compare scores
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Marc Meakin wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:55 am Next time you go bowling , sometime in 2023/4 , try to bring extra footwear , play two games , one with bowling shoes on and one without and compare scores
Eh, more like play multiple games with each and compare how your knees feel after each set. Of course, to make it a fair test, you should take the standard 3.7 year break between the two, and assume that your knees haven't deteriorated as a result of aging.
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David Williams wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 7:48 am
Matt Morrison wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 8:11 pmA more consistent and even saltiness is exactly what many uses of salt are trying not to achieve. Good examples that you must (but obviously won't) be able to appreciate would be chocolate stuff - a bar of dark chocolate with sea salt or sea salt in a brownie or something. You don't want to make the chocolate salty, you want to be able to taste the chocolate and the salt separately at the same time.
But
Matt Morrison also wrote: Sat May 02, 2020 11:35 pmBecause yes, freshly ground rock salt is an entirely different thing to powdered table salt.
So not only do you think rock salt goes off after you grind it, you presumably make your own bars of chocolate?
I didn't say so at the time, but I enjoyed this.
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Roman numerals.
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Gavin Chipper wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:26 pm Roman numerals.
What did they ever do for us?
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Gavin Chipper wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:26 pm Roman numerals.
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Reusable face coverings.
Not fit for purpose , beyond obtaining entrance to shops and public transport
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Marc Meakin wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:23 am
Gavin Chipper wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:26 pm Roman numerals.
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This is a hell of a tough crossword clue.
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Marc Meakin wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:26 am Reusable face coverings.
Not fit for purpose , beyond obtaining entrance to shops and public transport
My buffs are pretty excellent in terms of restricting what comes out of my gob. Absolutely perfect for purpose, and nice colours too.
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Strimmers.
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Mark James wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:45 pm Strimmers.
Go on..?
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