Spoilers for Thursday October 25th 2012 (Series 67 Prelim 58

[Jordan F]

We have two new contestants today due to Rose Boyle becoming an octochamp. Who will come out on top, and could we have a third consecutive octochamp? I wouldn't be surprised at the pace of this series so far.

James will recap us later.

[Johnny Canuck]

I'm predicting all-octo finals for Series 67. What would they do if there were more than 8 octos?

[Jordan F]

ACHIOTE as an equal in the ETHICAL round

[Grant Waters]

I'm predicting all-octo finals for Series 67. What would they do if there were more than 8 octos?

From a purely selfish point of view Johnny I hope you are wrong. But to answer your question - the Octochamp with the lowest total would not make the finals - currently Chris Marshall is in that unfortunate position.

I'm hoping we run out of shows before that happens though, for Chris's sake - and mine!

[Grant Waters]

Anyone else notice Nick's reaction to the incorrect conundrum guess. It kind of gave the game away that the answer was close, and that the first part of the word was correct - but surprisingly Leke still didn't get it. Would have been controversial if it had been a crucial, and he'd got it.

And also, wondering why Nick read out Dave's score in French when he reached 69 points? Rachel very cleverly resorted to french in her closing comments.

[Tony Atkins]

First time we have had adjacent champions with the same surname since Tom Barnes beat Cliff Barnes back in S64 (May 2011). No doubt James can tell us when the previous time was (at was at least before 2003), or is this the second time ever?

[James Robinson]

First time we have had adjacent champions with the same surname since Tom Barnes beat Cliff Barnes back in S64 (May 2011). No doubt James can tell us when the previous time was (at was at least before 2003), or is this the second time ever?

Well, Wayne Summers, the winner of Series 24, was beaten by his dad, Martin Summers, that was back in 1992.

I bet it has happened somewhere inbetween though.

[Tony Atkins]

First time we have had adjacent champions with the same surname since Tom Barnes beat Cliff Barnes back in S64 (May 2011). No doubt James can tell us when the previous time was (at was at least before 2003), or is this the second time ever?

Well, Wayne Summers, the winner of Series 24, was beaten by his dad, Martin Summers, that was back in 1992.

I bet it has happened somewhere inbetween though.

That was on 6th July 1992, for the record.

The one you missed was Alison Moore v Stuart Moore on 31st May 2001 - I can't see any others listed.