Bug reports

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:50 pm

Gavin Chipper wrote:Also - http://apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=351001 - round 20. Sponge is supposed to be like Rex on numbers isn't he?

He's probably never been shown how to solve 962 before.

Andrew Feist · Post by **Andrew Feist** » Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:55 pm

Matt Morrison wrote:Never seen this happen before on a non-Hyper numbers round but mathematician didn't get the max - I declared 936 on a 933 target but had 4 left over to take off, game claimed my 936 method was the best.

Even better, the mathematician's method had the 3 left over on a 3 away solution....

Ian Volante · Post by **Ian Volante** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:38 am

Ian Volante wrote:
Charlie Reams wrote:The applet isn't signed so... I have no idea.
Weird, I'll try to glean more info.

I gleaned more info:

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network: Connecting http://www.apterous.org/client/apto4298095703.jar with cookie "uid=381; sessionid=13450050521309346080; __utma=210967365.1337468131.1280677274.1291159408.1291162591.337; __utmz=210967365.1291065692.327.28.utmcsr=c4countdown.co.uk|utmccn=(referral)|utmcmd=referral|utmcct=/viewtopic.php; uid=381; sessionid=13450050521309346080; __utmb=210967365.9.10.1291162591; __utmc=210967365"
network: ResponseCode for http://www.apterous.org/client/apto4298095703.jar : 304
network: Encoding for http://www.apterous.org/client/apto4298095703.jar : null
network: Disconnect connection to http://www.apterous.org/client/apto4298095703.jar
cache: Reading Signers from 0 http://www.apterous.org/client/apto4298095703.jar | C:\Documents and Settings\cheekbones3\Application Data\Sun\Java\Deployment\cache\6.0\29\2d84e61d-4e221157.idx
network: No certificate info for unsigned JAR file: http://www.apterous.org/client/apto4298095703.jar
network: No certificate info for unsigned JAR file: http://www.apterous.org/client/apto4298095703.jar
cache:  Read manifest for http://www.apterous.org/client/apto4298095703.jar: read=45 full=45
basic: Applet loaded.

As far as I can tell, the console is giving me the signed/unsigned pop-up at the point when these lines appear:

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network: No certificate info for unsigned JAR file: http://www.apterous.org/client/apto4298095703.jar
network: No certificate info for unsigned JAR file: http://www.apterous.org/client/apto4298095703.jar

Both the same in fact, pre- and post-pop-up probably. Is this relevant to anything?

Gavin Chipper · Post by **Gavin Chipper** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:15 am

I tried to put a comment on this game and it didn't come up.

Edit - Oh it must be the weird URL someone mentioned earlier.

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:33 am

Gavin Chipper wrote:someone

Cunt.

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:52 am

Gavin Chipper wrote:Edit - I've always thought it's weird the way it fails on hyper though. Every time it gets the target it gets it at least as efficiently as I do (so the same number of moves or less) and then every so often it just doesn't get it. If it's a case of it not being able to cover all the ground, why does it never get the target but less efficiently than the player?

It searches all 1-step methods first, then 2-step etc. So if it gets the target at all, it'll get it in the optimal number of steps.

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:58 am

Jamie French wrote:I've installed some new antivirus sodtware and its stopped me from playing apterous.

I can log into the game room and pick the first round selection but the clock will not start and I am presented with a blank white screen.

The following message is also delivered to my desktop

TBH I'd just get a better anti-virus.

Ian Volante · Post by **Ian Volante** » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:04 am

Wot no duel today?

Karen Pearson · Post by **Karen Pearson** » Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:03 am

Ian Volante wrote:Wot no duel today?

I think it got snowed in and couldn't make it to work.

Joseph Krol · Post by **Joseph Krol** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:51 pm

I've just noticed that it says something totally wrong on some games when you have finished, in the chat bit, regarding your rating. Could be showing ratings for the wrong people? Probably refernced earlier in the thread, or it could just be me. Probably one of those two.

JK

Liam Tiernan · Post by **Liam Tiernan** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:36 pm

Joseph Krol wrote:I've just noticed that it says something totally wrong on some games when you have finished, in the chat bit, regarding your rating. Could be showing ratings for the wrong people? Probably refernced earlier in the thread, or it could just be me. Probably one of those two.

JK

There are different ratings for some variants, Joseph, are you taking that into account?

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:00 am

Liam Tiernan wrote:
Joseph Krol wrote:I've just noticed that it says something totally wrong on some games when you have finished, in the chat bit, regarding your rating. Could be showing ratings for the wrong people? Probably refernced earlier in the thread, or it could just be me. Probably one of those two.

JK
There are different ratings for some variants, Joseph, are you taking that into account?

All variants in fact.

Joseph Krol · Post by **Joseph Krol** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:17 am

Ah yes, that is probably it, as I was playing a Junior Conundrum attack against my sister when it happened. Out of interest, how can you view your ratings for the variants?

Joseph Krol · Post by **Joseph Krol** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:17 am

Ah yes, that is probably it, as I was playing a Junior Conundrum attack against my sister when it happened. Out of interest, how can you view your ratings for the variants?

Rhys Benjamin · Post by **Rhys Benjamin** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:53 am

I'm seeing double.

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:02 am

Joseph Krol wrote:Out of interest, how can you view your ratings for the variants?

Umm, yeah. About that...

Rhys Benjamin · Post by **Rhys Benjamin** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:04 am

Charlie Reams wrote:
Joseph Krol wrote:Out of interest, how can you view your ratings for the variants?
Umm, yeah. About that...

You can go to settings in the game and change your preffered variant. Then you can see your rating in let's say... Spoilage (if your variant is Spoilage, like me.)

I am 795(?) at Normal/English but when I see the player list, I see everyone's spoilage rating. (i.e. me = 1068, Ian V = 1649, Rex = 1533

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:41 pm

Would be interesting to know how the eye of apterous works (think this has been discussed before) as I've just noticed this:

"Your PB in this format is 149; your opponent's is 77. The eye of apterous believes your chance of winning is 19%. Dare you defy it?" My PB is nearly double his and I have a 19% chance of winning. I'd put a tenner on please...

Graeme Cole · Post by **Graeme Cole** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:55 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:Would be interesting to know how the eye of apterous works (think this has been discussed before) as I've just noticed this:

"Your PB in this format is 149; your opponent's is 77. The eye of apterous believes your chance of winning is 19%. Dare you defy it?" My PB is nearly double his and I have a 19% chance of winning. I'd put a tenner on please...

I think that "chance of winning" thing is based on the players' ratings in that format, not personal bests.

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:18 pm

Graeme Cole wrote: I think that "chance of winning" thing is based on the players' ratings in that format, not personal bests.

Think you're spot on.

Michael Wallace · Post by **Michael Wallace** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:19 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:
Graeme Cole wrote: I think that "chance of winning" thing is based on the players' ratings in that format, not personal bests.
Think you're spot on.

He is, but who were you playing? Your rating is so high I'm surprised there's anyone who would give you such a low chance of winning.

Ben Wilson · Post by **Ben Wilson** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:30 pm

http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=354772

This game, right?

Gavin Chipper · Post by **Gavin Chipper** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:31 pm

Was it a weird variant?

Michael Wallace · Post by **Michael Wallace** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:32 pm

Ben Wilson wrote:http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=354772

This game, right?

Ah, that explains it, cool stuff.

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:29 pm

Ben Wilson wrote:http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=354772

This game, right?

Well the game after. Then after that my percentage went up to like 37% chance of winning. Would loved to have seen what percentage it said for the first game as I forgot to read it.

Adam Gillard · Post by **Adam Gillard** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:08 pm

Statland pages haven't updated for a while

Rhys Benjamin · Post by **Rhys Benjamin** » Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:25 am

Often in goatundrums in a 30-second round, 30 seconds elapses when the full shuffle is revealed. This often leads to "That's Rhys's buzzer on 31.5 seconds...."

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:05 am

Rhys Benjamin wrote:Often in goatundrums in a 30-second round, 30 seconds elapses when the full shuffle is revealed. This often leads to "That's Rhys's buzzer on 31.5 seconds...."

Yes?

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:06 am

Rhys Benjamin wrote:Often in goatundrums in a 30-second round, 30 seconds elapses when the full shuffle is revealed. This often leads to "That's Rhys's buzzer on 31.5 seconds...."

Rhys, please learn how the game works before you post such ridiculous bug reports. Go and read the help pages on Goatdown.

Rhys Benjamin · Post by **Rhys Benjamin** » Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:08 am

Matt Morrison wrote:
Rhys Benjamin wrote:Often in goatundrums in a 30-second round, 30 seconds elapses when the full shuffle is revealed. This often leads to "That's Rhys's buzzer on 31.5 seconds...."
Rhys, please learn how the game works before you post such ridiculous bug reports. Go and read the help pages on Goatdown.

Weird. Previously it did 20 seconds before revealing.

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:13 am

Rhys Benjamin wrote:
Matt Morrison wrote:
Rhys Benjamin wrote:Often in goatundrums in a 30-second round, 30 seconds elapses when the full shuffle is revealed. This often leads to "That's Rhys's buzzer on 31.5 seconds...."
Rhys, please learn how the game works before you post such ridiculous bug reports. Go and read the help pages on Goatdown.
Weird. Previously it did 20 seconds before revealing.

Nope.

Liam Tiernan · Post by **Liam Tiernan** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:28 am

Travellers Almanacs count is broken, and probably has been for months.

ps: Why no almanac for WALES? It is a country, isn't it?

Kai Laddiman · Post by **Kai Laddiman** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:54 pm

Liam Tiernan wrote:Why no almanac for WALES? It is a country, isn't it?

Nope.

Hugh Binnie · Post by **Hugh Binnie** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:51 am

The newly-expanded unique offerings page (which is excellent to see) seems to list pencils for non-standard variants (?), e.g. unlimited and spoilage, rather than unique offerings.

Also, 20 as a target with a 20 in the selection displays oddly in the recap and during the game. (See too the recapper's method, which avoids using the 20.)

Graeme Cole · Post by **Graeme Cole** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:00 am

According to the new unique words page I'm the only person ever to offer AVOWEDLY, but that isn't true.

Kai Laddiman · Post by **Kai Laddiman** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:25 pm

Graeme Cole wrote:According to the new unique words page I'm the only person ever to offer AVOWEDLY, but that isn't true.

Likewise, LEUCOMAS is on my list, but 13 others have declared it since I did.

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:45 pm

New policy: I deduct one silver bug for every duplicate report.

Rhys Benjamin · Post by **Rhys Benjamin** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:01 pm

Charlie Reams wrote:New policy: I deduct one silver bug for every duplicate report.

So if you get 0 silver bugs you get -1?

Gavin Chipper · Post by **Gavin Chipper** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:59 pm

Charlie Reams wrote:New policy: I deduct one silver bug for every duplicate report.

Sometimes I would have thought it would be good to know errors aren't one-offs.

Kai Laddiman · Post by **Kai Laddiman** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:10 pm

I would quote that and say "Yeh, as Graeme wasn't the only person to first declare his word but I was with mine" but I don't want to lose another Silver Bug.

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:43 pm

Gavin Chipper wrote:
Charlie Reams wrote:New policy: I deduct one silver bug for every duplicate report.
Sometimes I would have thought it would be good to know errors aren't one-offs.

Yes, but when it's a bunch of static pages that I can look at myself, there's only a certain number of times I need to be told about it. My heart LITERALLY sinks every time there's a post in this thread (possibly not including this one) so a bit of quality control on the other side would be much appreciated.

Rhys Benjamin · Post by **Rhys Benjamin** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:51 pm

GENUINE REPORT HERE

In a blind, once the 30 seconds are up, the letters reappear just before you declre so you get the chance to check your words, surely this is a bug?

James Leroux · Post by **James Leroux** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:00 pm

I played today's Duel, and got a provisionally ranked 6th. My name didn't show up on the leaderboard on the front page, and while the game showed up in my history I'm not allowed to view it. Just now, I logged out and logged back in, and the game is offering me the Duel again...

Paul Howe · Post by **Paul Howe** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:23 pm

Whenever I try to resume my game with Mr A. Rex it gets to about 10 letters in (Rex's pick), then the game window disappears completely. The game is still listed as "In Play" in the panel at the bottom of the screen, but it can't be resumed without logging out/in. Have tried resuming it 3/4 times now and same thing happens every time. Only thing on the error log is this

ClientGame1930 [CXPLAY]: net.BlockingLayerInterruptedException: net.BlockingNetworkLayer$FinalObjectExtractedException: Stream ended (final object extracted)

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:52 pm

James Leroux wrote:I played today's Duel, and got a provisionally ranked 6th. My name didn't show up on the leaderboard on the front page, and while the game showed up in my history I'm not allowed to view it. Just now, I logged out and logged back in, and the game is offering me the Duel again...

We had a database crash earlier, looks like it happened halfway through saving your game. You can replay it if you're feeling honest.

Oliver Garner · Post by **Oliver Garner** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:01 pm

Kirk Bevins commented on Amie Bateen's game with her. 1 day ago.

Kirk Bevins celebrated his 5200th win! 1 day ago.

James Leroux · Post by **James Leroux** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:38 pm

Charlie Reams wrote:
James Leroux wrote:I played today's Duel, and got a provisionally ranked 6th. My name didn't show up on the leaderboard on the front page, and while the game showed up in my history I'm not allowed to view it. Just now, I logged out and logged back in, and the game is offering me the Duel again...
We had a database crash earlier, looks like it happened halfway through saving your game. You can replay it if you're feeling honest.

I got 6th again, but it's still not showing up on the leaderboard...

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:51 pm

James Leroux wrote:
Charlie Reams wrote:
James Leroux wrote:I played today's Duel, and got a provisionally ranked 6th. My name didn't show up on the leaderboard on the front page, and while the game showed up in my history I'm not allowed to view it. Just now, I logged out and logged back in, and the game is offering me the Duel again...
We had a database crash earlier, looks like it happened halfway through saving your game. You can replay it if you're feeling honest.
I got 6th again, but it's still not showing up on the leaderboard...

As above, but with 1st place.

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:57 pm

I tried accessing apterous on my mobile and it had changed. There were only three available buttons (log in, contact and one other) and you could read some writing behind but you couldn't do anything with it, e.g. when I clicked log in I couldn't type my password in as the 3 links on the left kept scrolling down with the rest of the page and clicking in the 'password' box didn't do anything.

Joseph Krol · Post by **Joseph Krol** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:05 am

Kirk Bevins wrote:I tried accessing apterous on my mobile and it had changed. There were only three available buttons (log in, contact and one other) and you could read some writing behind but you couldn't do anything with it, e.g. when I clicked log in I couldn't type my password in as the 3 links on the left kept scrolling down with the rest of the page and clicking in the 'password' box didn't do anything.

Always worked for me, save the game window.

James Hall · Post by **James Hall** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:01 pm

http://www.apterous.org/statland.php?se ... t_climbers seems not to be updating any more - I know I'm higher up than that now!

James Doohan · Post by **James Doohan** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:07 pm

Hyper unlimited letters attack has 30 seconds per round whereas the other hyper unlimited games have 45 seconds per round

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:11 pm

James Doohan wrote:Hyper unlimited letters attack has 30 seconds per round whereas the other hyper unlimited games have 45 seconds per round

That is... odd. Don't think I can change it now though.

Gavin Chipper · Post by **Gavin Chipper** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:13 pm

Charlie Reams wrote:
James Doohan wrote:Hyper unlimited letters attack has 30 seconds per round whereas the other hyper unlimited games have 45 seconds per round
That is... odd. Don't think I can change it now though.

Hyper touch numbers attack has 30 seconds as well (so presumably all hyper touch).

Jayne Wisniewski · Post by **Jayne Wisniewski** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:38 pm

I just played star 17 beefily facetious - all numbers standard scoring. However i score 1 point when i declared 9 away and 9 points when i declared 1 away - shouldn't this be 5 and 7? It made no difference to outcome but I thought i'd mention it.

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:48 pm

Jayne Wisniewski wrote:I just played star 17 beefily facetious - all numbers standard scoring. However i score 1 point when i declared 9 away and 9 points when i declared 1 away - shouldn't this be 5 and 7? It made no difference to outcome but I thought i'd mention it.

Nothing more than confusing terminology Jayne. The standard scoring method for Omelette and Aegilops is Stepdown scoring.

Jayne Wisniewski · Post by **Jayne Wisniewski** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:10 pm

thank you matt i guess i should have realised - ive played enough omelette and aegilops to have noticed that!

Gavin Chipper · Post by **Gavin Chipper** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:58 pm

Although you've put a note on Apterous to say that Statland pages no longer spuriously claim to have been updated, they do still spuriously claim that they're going to be updated in about a minute. Is it quite resource heavy for these pages to update fequently? I notice some pages update very quickly. When I look at my games from the last 30 days, new games seem to appear straight away, although I think they actually go back more than 30 days.

Gavin Chipper · Post by **Gavin Chipper** » Sat Jan 01, 2011 2:01 pm

In hyper numbers, it's sometimes very laggy at the start of rounds, even if Apterous in general doesn't seem particularly laggy at the time. This is before the selection comes up. So I pick however many from the top, then the delay and then the numbers go up and everything runs smoothly.

Gavin Chipper · Post by **Gavin Chipper** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:44 pm

On some of the variants (the obscure ones), the glory roll doesn't seem to work properly for them. I have top losing score of 0 for Gevin's Delight, despite never scoring 0. And I have the high score for it but that isn't mentioned. Also my top score for Numberbash isn't mentioned (although things like top losing score are).