How tired are you today?

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:40 am

I'm knackered, and for no good reason (so that includes the traditional sense of 'knackered').
I did go to bed at 2am but I slept well and had a bit of a lie-in.

How are you feeling?

Jon O'Neill · Post by **Jon O'Neill** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:03 am

I think sleeping about 6 hours a night during the week and 10 hours at the weekend to bring the average up is not a particularly good idea long-term. I've gotten by on about five hours for a few weeks and I don't think it's very good for you.

Yesterday I got to bed before 12 for a change (I wake up at half 7) and it feels good. So today I'm only like garlic, where as most days I'd be a Pirelli.

James Robinson · Post by **James Robinson** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:12 am

I always seem to be knackered and in fairness, it's mainly my own doing, since it just takes me ages to get to sleep, mainly cos my mind doesn't seem to want to go to sleep.

Normally, I don't go into bed til around half 12 - 1am, and then it seems to take me another hour to go down, and at weekdays I get up at 7am, so if I'm lucky I could get 6 hours of sleep, but that's mainly if I'm just very, very tired.

I do compensate at weekends by not getting up til well after 9am, although 10-11am isn't that unrecurring either.

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:31 am

James Robinson wrote:I don't go into bed til around half 12 - 1am, and then it seems to take me another hour to go down

Uuhh.

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:31 am

Good input guys. I think from this sample we can assume everyone who uses C4C is tired all the time.

Jon O'Neill · Post by **Jon O'Neill** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:38 pm

Matt Morrison wrote:
James Robinson wrote:I don't go into bed til around half 12 - 1am, and then it seems to take me another hour to go down
Uuhh.

Beware of kittens.

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:40 pm

Peter Mabey · Post by **Peter Mabey** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:06 pm

As it takes me a while to get off to sleep again after waking up for a wee, I never get a full night's sleep these days

Brian Moore · Post by **Brian Moore** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:35 pm

Have been a bit tired since doing a gig finishing at 1am last Saturday, then only having 5 hours sleep that night then doing a show every night this week (bloody Iolanthe - shame I can't sleep through that.)

But generally I aim for 8 hours sleep after my normal active days - on average I cycle about 200 miles and swim 2 miles a week, as well as not-sitting-at-desk work, so am tired enough both mentally and physically enough to make me sleep like a log, and wake up raring to go.

Phil Reynolds · Post by **Phil Reynolds** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:01 pm

Not sleeping at all well at the moment due to being afflicted with frozen shoulder. (Read about it - you'll feel sorry for me, I promise.) Thus I've been very tired most days for several weeks now. However, I did actually sleep a bit better last night and so today I'm only tired rather than very tired. Which is nice, as it's my birthday.

Rhys Benjamin · Post by **Rhys Benjamin** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:07 pm

I like the Pirelli comment because of the fact that I got up at 2am to watch F1 this morning, combined with the fact that my physics teacher made us watch that program on BBC4 last night (Shock & Awe) then I had to clean out the kitchen as well, due to the fact that we're having a new floor in. Midnight to 2. Fantastic.

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:37 pm

I get awoken at 6.45 sharp every morning by a morbidly obese Ecuadorian woman screaming at her son, and next door's dog who barks incessantly for around 8 hours a day. So I am permanently tired.

David Williams · Post by **David Williams** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:30 pm

Phil Reynolds wrote:Not sleeping at all well at the moment due to being afflicted with frozen shoulder.

My wife had that once. Didn't fancy anything the doctor told her, so she did a bit of research and started taking selenium tablets. Within a week it was gone. I don't think you can get them any more, but a couple of brazil nuts a day amounts to the same. Apparently we used to get all the selenium we need from bread before we joined the common market, but european wheat doesn't contain selenium, whereas north american does. Yet another reason to vote UKIP.

I think most alternative medicine is as effective as faith-healing, but this worked for her, and does have some logic behind it. Can't do any harm.

Ian Volante · Post by **Ian Volante** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:44 pm

David Williams wrote: Yet another reason to vote UKIP.

Wow, doubled the list in one fell swoop!

Martyn Simpson · Post by **Martyn Simpson** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:29 pm

I have a nocturnal two and a half week old son; I'm knackered.

James Robinson · Post by **James Robinson** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:31 pm

Martyn Simpson wrote:I have a nocturnal two and a half week old son; I'm knackered.

Maybe even more after that shock revelation you told me about him the other day.

Brian Moore · Post by **Brian Moore** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:07 pm

Phil Reynolds wrote:Which is nice, as it's my birthday.

Happy Birthday!

(Now does your signature need updating?)

Gavin Chipper · Post by **Gavin Chipper** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm

Jon O'Neill wrote:I think sleeping about 6 hours a night during the week and 10 hours at the weekend to bring the average up is not a particularly good idea long-term. I've gotten by on about five hours for a few weeks and I don't think it's very good for you.

Yesterday I got to bed before 12 for a change (I wake up at half 7) and it feels good. So today I'm only like garlic, where as most days I'd be a Pirelli.

I think 7s and 9s work quite well. Maybe 7s and 10s if I'm lazy.

Phil Reynolds · Post by **Phil Reynolds** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:59 am

David Williams wrote:
Phil Reynolds wrote:Not sleeping at all well at the moment due to being afflicted with frozen shoulder.
My wife had that once. Didn't fancy anything the doctor told her, so she did a bit of research and started taking selenium tablets. Within a week it was gone. I don't think you can get them any more, but a couple of brazil nuts a day amounts to the same.

Thanks for the suggestion David (and thanks too for your PM on the subject). As it happens, as part of my low-GI diet I already eat a couple of handfuls of mixed raw nuts, including brazils, each day. So selenium deficiency appears unlikely as a contributing factor to my misery. However, as I'm unable to quantify the number of brazils in each mixed handful, and as I'm desperate enough to try anything, for the next couple of weeks I'll try fishing around in the pack for the brazils and making sure I eat at least two a day. I'll let you know what happens.

Dinos Sfyris · Post by **Dinos Sfyris** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:26 pm

I am quite energetic today but then everyone who knows me will tell you I can run circles around King Kong on cocaine at Disneyland.

Phil Reynolds · Post by **Phil Reynolds** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:42 pm

Phil Reynolds wrote:
David Williams wrote:
Phil Reynolds wrote:Not sleeping at all well at the moment due to being afflicted with frozen shoulder.
My wife had that once. Didn't fancy anything the doctor told her, so she did a bit of research and started taking selenium tablets. Within a week it was gone. I don't think you can get them any more, but a couple of brazil nuts a day amounts to the same.
As it happens, as part of my low-GI diet I already eat a couple of handfuls of mixed raw nuts, including brazils, each day. So selenium deficiency appears unlikely as a contributing factor to my misery. However, as I'm unable to quantify the number of brazils in each mixed handful, and as I'm desperate enough to try anything, for the next couple of weeks I'll try fishing around in the pack for the brazils and making sure I eat at least two a day. I'll let you know what happens.

Update: after a couple of days on the brazil nut regime, I looked up some figures on the amount of selenium they contain and discovered it can vary hugely, so I bought a pack of selenium tablets and have been taking those daily since last Wednesday. Saw the physio today and there's been no improvement whatever in the primary shoulder movements since I last saw her three weeks ago. My internal shoulder rotation has been improving over the past week, but that process began before I started taking the selenium.

I may as well carry on with it for now (I had to buy 90 of the bloody things and I'm not flushing them down the loo), but meanwhile today I've been back to Holland & Barrett and bought some glucosamine and chondroitin tablets to see what they do (other than drastically reduce the contents of my wallet).

Amusing side note: the latter tablets also contain something called MSM, which startled me until I realised that this apparently has a different meaning from the one with which I became familiar during the years I spent as a volunteer for a sexual health charity.

Mark James · Post by **Mark James** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:44 am

First day back in college today and thanks to the two and a half weeks off I'm not used to getting up at this hour. In fact this is around the time I went to bed at yesterday. Consequently I've had no sleep since I got up to watch Man U v Man City (I missed the first twenty minutes) yesterday. I also had to clean up cat sick at half two this morning and then he was back moaning at the window at around half four. I'm bolloxed.

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