Unusual first names -> dictionary valid.

DaveC · Post by **DaveC** » Tue May 06, 2008 8:21 pm

Hiyo.

I occasionally encounter unusual names that are also valid words for Countdowners... Apart from the obvious Victoria, May, June, loads of girls names that are flowers, and occasionally fruits so I wondered what other examples people have encountered.

.. and have encountered a person called Virtue, Valiant, Hope and there were at least two people born in the last 20 years called Zodiac.

There was a common tendency in times gone by to use mothers original surname as a middle name. E.g. Isambard Kingdom Brunel, which is kinda cheating.

I wondered what other examples people had encountered...

DC

Ralph Gillions · Post by **Ralph Gillions** » Tue May 06, 2008 9:07 pm

The influence of pop singer celebrity - Kylie.
Apparently a kylie is a boomerang.
But I prefer the capitalised Kylie, which of course would not be valid for Countdown.
Kylie (capital K) is at ype of incontinence wear (sheets, pants etc).
I can't resist a little inner smile when I hear a parent calling out "Kylie" because I always think of an
incontinence sheet.

Joseph Bolas · Post by **Joseph Bolas** » Tue May 06, 2008 10:27 pm

Expanding from this topic, I don't know any first names that are allowed in Countdown, but there are a few names that if you spot, there is an anagram, thusly giving you a legit Countdown word, for example:

CAROLINE = LONICERA*
KRYSTAL = STARKLY
MICHAEL = CHAMELI*

* LONICERA and CHAMELI can be both pluralised.

Jon O'Neill · Post by **Jon O'Neill** » Wed May 07, 2008 12:06 pm

Caroline is actually valid, I seem to remember. Is it a cake? Don't think its pluralisable though.

Jon Corby · Post by **Jon Corby** » Wed May 07, 2008 12:09 pm

Patrice Evra = prevaricate

is worth remembering in case they extend letters round to 11 letters.

DaveC · Post by **DaveC** » Wed May 07, 2008 1:04 pm

Ginger Jono wrote:Caroline is actually valid, I seem to remember. Is it a cake? Don't think its pluralisable though.

I don't see it in the dictionary...

I wonder could someone order multiples of them in a restaurant..

DC

Joseph Bolas · Post by **Joseph Bolas** » Wed May 07, 2008 1:33 pm

Ginger Jono wrote:Caroline is actually valid, I seem to remember. Is it a cake? Don't think its pluralisable though.

It does list Caroline in the ODE, but it only has a capital letter, sorry.

Dinos Sfyris · Post by **Dinos Sfyris** » Wed May 07, 2008 3:19 pm

Anne (an)

Jason Larsen · Post by **Jason Larsen** » Wed May 07, 2008 8:37 pm

Very interesting!

Ben Wilson · Post by **Ben Wilson** » Wed May 07, 2008 9:11 pm

Jason Larsen wrote:Very interesting!

God, that child's parents must have hated him/her.

Jason Larsen · Post by **Jason Larsen** » Wed May 07, 2008 9:35 pm

No, not me!

In fact, I've never even heard of a Caroline!

Joseph Bolas · Post by **Joseph Bolas** » Wed May 07, 2008 10:29 pm

Ben Wilson wrote:
Jason Larsen wrote:Very interesting!
God, that child's parents must have hated him/her.

And I thought I was unlucky to have a surname like Bolas

Can't think though where this name would've originated from

Jason Larsen · Post by **Jason Larsen** » Thu May 08, 2008 2:52 am

My last name is Norwegian.

Ben Wilson · Post by **Ben Wilson** » Thu May 08, 2008 11:06 am

Jason Larsen wrote:My last name is Norwegian.

I thought it was Larsen.

Jason Larsen · Post by **Jason Larsen** » Thu May 08, 2008 2:49 pm

My last name's nationality is Norwegian.

Joseph Bolas · Post by **Joseph Bolas** » Mon May 12, 2008 11:54 pm

Ben Wilson wrote:
Jason Larsen wrote:My last name is Norwegian.
I thought it was Larsen.

It could be an alias

Jason Larsen · Post by **Jason Larsen** » Tue May 13, 2008 1:40 am

Again, my last name's nationality is Norwegian.

Dinos Sfyris · Post by **Dinos Sfyris** » Tue May 13, 2008 8:49 am

Jason "Nationality is Norwegian" Larsen. Got it.

Jason Larsen · Post by **Jason Larsen** » Tue May 13, 2008 1:35 pm

My name is just Jason Larsen, Dinos.

Joseph Bolas · Post by **Joseph Bolas** » Tue May 13, 2008 2:12 pm

Jason Larsen wrote:My name is just Jason Larsen, Dinos.

So is Jason your middle name then or do people know you by Just

.

Jason Larsen · Post by **Jason Larsen** » Tue May 13, 2008 2:21 pm

Joseph, my name is Jason William Larsen.

Joseph Bolas · Post by **Joseph Bolas** » Tue May 13, 2008 2:39 pm

Jason Larsen wrote:Joseph, my name is Jason William Larsen.

We were just having a mess with you

, surely you worked that out

.

Ralph Gillions · Post by **Ralph Gillions** » Tue May 13, 2008 2:49 pm

Thank you for calling a halt to the messing about Joseph.

Jason Larsen · Post by **Jason Larsen** » Tue May 13, 2008 4:10 pm

Thank you!

Kai Laddiman · Post by **Kai Laddiman** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:52 pm

For a whopping 3 points, KAI is in there as a food in New Zealand. You can also have JOHN (a toilet),JOE (an ordinary man), JOEY (a baby kangaroo), HARRY (to rush) and MAX (maximum). I only knew about the last two because my brothers are called them.

Joseph Bolas · Post by **Joseph Bolas** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:55 pm

Kai Laddiman wrote:JOE (an ordinary man)

I know at least 1 Joe who ain't ordinary

Debbi Flack · Post by **Debbi Flack** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 7:43 pm

When I worked as a midwife I knew a Miss Salmon who called her new born boy Rock (Rock Salmon!!!). A well meaning relative pointed out that it would be cruel to saddle a child with Rock Salmon as a name, so mummy promptly changed it to Ginger Solo Frederick.

I kid you not!

I

Kai Laddiman · Post by **Kai Laddiman** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:28 pm

Joseph Bolas wrote:
Kai Laddiman wrote:JOE (an ordinary man)
I know at least 1 Joe who ain't ordinary

Who might that be?

Joseph Bolas · Post by **Joseph Bolas** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:38 pm

Kai Laddiman wrote:
Joseph Bolas wrote:
Kai Laddiman wrote:JOE (an ordinary man)
I know at least 1 Joe who ain't ordinary
Who might that be?

Well actually, its myself

I am quite a weird and unusual person and I think people who have met me before at the CO-events will agree with me.

Kai Laddiman · Post by **Kai Laddiman** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:41 pm

Joseph Bolas wrote:
Well actually, its myself

I am quite a weird and unusual person and I think people who have met me before at the CO-events will agree with me.

Actually, surprise surprise, I was being sarcastic.

Joseph Bolas · Post by **Joseph Bolas** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:46 pm

Kai Laddiman wrote:
Joseph Bolas wrote:
Well actually, its myself

I am quite a weird and unusual person and I think people who have met me before at the CO-events will agree with me.
Actually, surprise surprise, I was being sarcastic.

See, an ordinary person would've got that, but then I said I wasn't orindary

so I didn't get that it was sarcastic

, sorry.

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:56 pm

What would be really unusual would be a Joseph Bolas post that didn't include an embarrassed apology for some incredibly minor mistake.

Martin Smith · Post by **Martin Smith** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:04 pm

Both my first name and surname are valid words.Not sure about my middle name (James) - does anybody know of anyone whose given name, middle name and family name are all valid Countdown plays?

Totally off-topic, but the equivalent words to 'Smith' are common surnames in many other European cultures - Schmit (and Schmitt/Schmid) in German, Ferrari in Italian, Kovacs in Croatian and Kowalski in Polish for example.

Eoin Monaghan · Post by **Eoin Monaghan** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:11 pm

According to a survey 26 people in the UK had the name 'arsenal'. Obviously this word's in the dictionary

Eoin Monaghan · Post by **Eoin Monaghan** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:13 pm

Eoin.V.Monaghan wrote:According to a survey 26 people in the UK had the name 'arsenal'. Obviously this word's in the dictionary

Would 'dinos' count as an abbreviation of dinosaurs ?

Martin Smith · Post by **Martin Smith** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:29 pm

I knew a girl called Kylie at school. She had a twin brother, who fortunately wasn't named Jason - they were born early enough to avoid that.

The real meaning of the name Kylie reminds me of my favourite story about Australia - when one of the first European visitors asked an Aborigine "what do you call those skipping creatures", his reply of 'kangaroo' actually meant "I don't understand". I think Richard Digance has mentioned this on the show.

Kai Laddiman · Post by **Kai Laddiman** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:33 pm

Martin Smith wrote:when one of the first European visitors asked an Aborigine "what do you call those skipping creatures", his reply of 'kangaroo' actually meant "I don't understand".

No it didn't!

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:49 pm

Kai Laddiman wrote:
Martin Smith wrote:when one of the first European visitors asked an Aborigine "what do you call those skipping creatures", his reply of 'kangaroo' actually meant "I don't understand".
No it didn't!

i'll back Kai up on this one - this was another urban myth debunked by the wonderful QI a while back

Martin Smith · Post by **Martin Smith** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:52 pm

Ah sorry guys. That quote has boomeranged on me.

Ralph Gillions · Post by **Ralph Gillions** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:05 pm

Martin Smith wrote:I knew a girl called Kylie at school.

Kylie is also the name of a well-known brand of incontinence wear.
Not such a glamourous name perhaps.

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:24 pm

Martin Smith wrote:Ah sorry guys. That quote has boomeranged on me.

Been there Martin. I've seen plenty of my interesting (what I thought to be) facts destroyed by Stephen Fry!

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:37 pm

Matt Morrison wrote:
Martin Smith wrote:Ah sorry guys. That quote has boomeranged on me.
Been there Martin. I've seen plenty of my interesting (what I thought to be) facts destroyed by Stephen Fry!

He also propagate a fair amount of shit of his own, judging by the rare occasions on which the programme stumbles upon topics I know a bit about. For example, the section on the Russell & Whitehead proof of 1+1=2 was mainly bollocks, and the section on the meaning of countries' names in Chinese was total crap (Chinese characters don't work like that - it would be like saying that English speakers think that a seahorse is a kind of horse.) So I wouldn't worry too much.

Callum Laddiman · Post by **Callum Laddiman** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:16 pm

There are some people I know who are brother and sister called Angel and Merlin! Oh yer and also that stupid name Kai!

Martin Smith · Post by **Martin Smith** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:47 pm

I met a girl called Jupiter a few years ago. That's the kind of name which makes me think hippies should be sterilised

EDIT: Is Jupiter even a word?

Ben Wilson · Post by **Ben Wilson** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:51 pm

Martin Smith wrote:I met a girl called Jupiter a few years ago. That's the kind of name which makes me think hippies should be sterilised

EDIT: Is Jupiter even a word?

Doubly worrying at that was the name of a male Roman god.

Can't help but feel for the children in this news story though.

DaveC · Post by **DaveC** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 3:38 am

Hiyo,

A quick look in the 1984-2005 birth registers reveals about 60 odd people with "Jupiter" in their name. Mostly as a middle name, but about 10 as a first name. One even has "Star" as a middle name, "Jupiter" as their first name. I wonder are they astronomers? As long as they're not astrologers, then we're really entering hippy territory.

There's about 700 people listed with "Merlin" in their first and middle names for those years

Just out of curiosity from the names of the people in this thread predictably Dinos has easily the rarest, the rest of us have really common names except......

The first person in Britain called "Kai" was likely Kai Petersen Born in 1901. There is a single "Laddiman" family in all England in 1901, living in Norwich. It's pretty likely a certain someone is descended from them.

DC

Martin Smith · Post by **Martin Smith** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 11:53 am

Hey, just because their names (and parents...) are odd doesn't mean they themselves are.

DaveC · Post by **DaveC** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 2:00 pm

As far as goes unfortunate names, here's the winner by a clear 7 inches... well. Six and a half.

http://carcino.gen.nz/images/index.php/ ... 0/130e3af8

DC

Jason Larsen · Post by **Jason Larsen** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:27 pm

What's wrong with that, Dave?

Paul Howe · Post by **Paul Howe** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 12:15 am

This be my favourite

It's surely only a matter of time before bumgardner gets added to the ODE.

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 12:51 am

No discussion of this nature can be complete without reference to this legend of NASCAR.

Jason Larsen · Post by **Jason Larsen** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 2:56 am

Junichiro Koizumi? That really doesn't sound all that uncommon!

After all, we have a guy who plays for Seattle's British rounders team and his name is Ichiro Suzuki.

Everyone here just loves him!

Phil Reynolds · Post by **Phil Reynolds** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:37 am

Jason Larsen wrote:Junichiro Koizumi? That really doesn't sound all that uncommon!

Jason, you're a funny guy!

Jason Larsen · Post by **Jason Larsen** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 4:45 pm

I started a trend, Phil, didn't I?

Dinos Sfyris · Post by **Dinos Sfyris** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:21 pm

lol at Randy Bumgardner

btw for those who didn't know my full first name is Konstadinos, but I prefer Dinos as I'm pretty sure I resemble an extinct lizard.

Kai Laddiman · Post by **Kai Laddiman** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:30 pm

Dinos Aurus wrote:lol at Randy Bumgardner btw for those who didn't know my full first name is Konstadinos, but I prefer Dinos as I'm pretty sure I resemble an extinct lizard.

Hence my Dinos Aurus pun.