Spoilers for Thursday 4th February 2021 (Series 83, Preliminary 24)

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Spoilers for Thursday 4th February 2021 (Series 83, Preliminary 24)

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[[Adam Latchford]] played [[another contestant]], with someone winning {{score|?|?}}. The [[presenter]] was [[Colin Murray]], the [[Dictionary Corner]] guest was [[Jenny Eclair]], and the [[lexicographer]] was [[Susie Dent]].
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Missed the pseudo-4L trick in R9. Poop.
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NOVATEUR in whichever round it was.

https://www.lexico.com/definition/novateur
NOUN

= novator.
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I thought the challenger was unlucky with GUNKIEST. I think two-syllable adjectives that end in Y should be considered standard enough to take -IER and -IEST without it having to be specified.
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Fiona T wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:56 pm NOVATEUR in whichever round it was.

https://www.lexico.com/definition/novateur
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= novator.
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Yeah, and not valid on Apterous. Weird dictionary.
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Gavin Chipper wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:18 pm I thought the challenger was unlucky with GUNKIEST. I think two-syllable adjectives that end in Y should be considered standard enough to take -IER and -IEST without it having to be specified.
This is the ungaiest thing you've ever suggested.
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Jon O'Neill wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:20 pm
Gavin Chipper wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:18 pm I thought the challenger was unlucky with GUNKIEST. I think two-syllable adjectives that end in Y should be considered standard enough to take -IER and -IEST without it having to be specified.
This is the ungaiest thing you've ever suggested.
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SPUNKIEST not good?
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Jon O'Neill wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:20 pm
Gavin Chipper wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:18 pm I thought the challenger was unlucky with GUNKIEST. I think two-syllable adjectives that end in Y should be considered standard enough to take -IER and -IEST without it having to be specified.
This is the ungaiest thing you've ever suggested.
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Yeah, nice. Obviously this would need to be considered and defined properly but I think the principle is sound. Basically my main thinking was that when a word ends in Y where the Y means "like", as in "gunk-like", it should be allowed. Obviously this wouldn't always be specified in the dictionary, but this is something I see wrong with the dictionary rather than the Countdown rules, and they could just go out of their way to specifiy -IER and -IEST in every case individually. But actually I don't think the "like" rule is actually that special, and it could be considered standard for all two-syllable adjectives that end consonant-Y. You'll let me know if there's a glaring hole in that one I'm sure.
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Marc Meakin wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:05 pm
Jon O'Neill wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:20 pm
Gavin Chipper wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:18 pm I thought the challenger was unlucky with GUNKIEST. I think two-syllable adjectives that end in Y should be considered standard enough to take -IER and -IEST without it having to be specified.
This is the ungaiest thing you've ever suggested.
They should send you to another planet, making you the awaiest c4c member.
SPUNKIEST not good?
It is good.
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Re: Spoilers for Thursday 4 February 2021 (Series 83, Preliminary 24)

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Gavin Chipper wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:20 pm
Jon O'Neill wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:20 pm
Gavin Chipper wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:18 pm I thought the challenger was unlucky with GUNKIEST. I think two-syllable adjectives that end in Y should be considered standard enough to take -IER and -IEST without it having to be specified.
This is the ungaiest thing you've ever suggested.
They should send you to another planet, making you the awaiest c4c member.
Yeah, nice. Obviously this would need to be considered and defined properly but I think the principle is sound. Basically my main thinking was that when a word ends in Y where the Y means "like", as in "gunk-like", it should be allowed. Obviously this wouldn't always be specified in the dictionary, but this is something I see wrong with the dictionary rather than the Countdown rules, and they could just go out of their way to specifiy -IER and -IEST in every case individually. But actually I don't think the "like" rule is actually that special, and it could be considered standard for all two-syllable adjectives that end consonant-Y. You'll let me know if there's a glaring hole in that one I'm sure.
But basically what you're saying is annything that follows the "Graeme Cole rule" of "word + Y = word" should also be allowed "word + IER" and "word + IEST". Which I think is OK as long as word + Y is still a word, unless you specify that, for example, county is not an adjective, so countier and countiest aren't valid.
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SPLENIUM in R13
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