Spoilers for Thursday 4th February 2021 (Series 83, Preliminary 24)
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Spoilers for Thursday 4th February 2021 (Series 83, Preliminary 24)
[[Adam Latchford]] played [[another contestant]], with someone winning {{score|?|?}}. The [[presenter]] was [[Colin Murray]], the [[Dictionary Corner]] guest was [[Jenny Eclair]], and the [[lexicographer]] was [[Susie Dent]].
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Re: Spoilers for Thursday 4 February 2021 (Series 83, Preliminary 24)
Missed the pseudo-4L trick in R9. Poop.
Re: Spoilers for Thursday 4 February 2021 (Series 83, Preliminary 24)
NOVATEUR in whichever round it was.
https://www.lexico.com/definition/novateur
https://www.lexico.com/definition/novateur
There's no definition for novator...NOUN
= novator.
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Re: Spoilers for Thursday 4 February 2021 (Series 83, Preliminary 24)
I thought the challenger was unlucky with GUNKIEST. I think two-syllable adjectives that end in Y should be considered standard enough to take -IER and -IEST without it having to be specified.
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Re: Spoilers for Thursday 4 February 2021 (Series 83, Preliminary 24)
Yeah, and not valid on Apterous. Weird dictionary.Fiona T wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:56 pm NOVATEUR in whichever round it was.
https://www.lexico.com/definition/novateurThere's no definition for novator...NOUN
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Re: Spoilers for Thursday 4 February 2021 (Series 83, Preliminary 24)
This is the ungaiest thing you've ever suggested.Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:18 pm I thought the challenger was unlucky with GUNKIEST. I think two-syllable adjectives that end in Y should be considered standard enough to take -IER and -IEST without it having to be specified.
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Re: Spoilers for Thursday 4 February 2021 (Series 83, Preliminary 24)
SPUNKIEST not good?Jon O'Neill wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:20 pmThis is the ungaiest thing you've ever suggested.Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:18 pm I thought the challenger was unlucky with GUNKIEST. I think two-syllable adjectives that end in Y should be considered standard enough to take -IER and -IEST without it having to be specified.
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Re: Spoilers for Thursday 4 February 2021 (Series 83, Preliminary 24)
Yeah, nice. Obviously this would need to be considered and defined properly but I think the principle is sound. Basically my main thinking was that when a word ends in Y where the Y means "like", as in "gunk-like", it should be allowed. Obviously this wouldn't always be specified in the dictionary, but this is something I see wrong with the dictionary rather than the Countdown rules, and they could just go out of their way to specifiy -IER and -IEST in every case individually. But actually I don't think the "like" rule is actually that special, and it could be considered standard for all two-syllable adjectives that end consonant-Y. You'll let me know if there's a glaring hole in that one I'm sure.Jon O'Neill wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:20 pmThis is the ungaiest thing you've ever suggested.Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:18 pm I thought the challenger was unlucky with GUNKIEST. I think two-syllable adjectives that end in Y should be considered standard enough to take -IER and -IEST without it having to be specified.
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Re: Spoilers for Thursday 4 February 2021 (Series 83, Preliminary 24)
It is good.Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:05 pmSPUNKIEST not good?Jon O'Neill wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:20 pmThis is the ungaiest thing you've ever suggested.Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:18 pm I thought the challenger was unlucky with GUNKIEST. I think two-syllable adjectives that end in Y should be considered standard enough to take -IER and -IEST without it having to be specified.
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Re: Spoilers for Thursday 4 February 2021 (Series 83, Preliminary 24)
But basically what you're saying is annything that follows the "Graeme Cole rule" of "word + Y = word" should also be allowed "word + IER" and "word + IEST". Which I think is OK as long as word + Y is still a word, unless you specify that, for example, county is not an adjective, so countier and countiest aren't valid.Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:20 pmYeah, nice. Obviously this would need to be considered and defined properly but I think the principle is sound. Basically my main thinking was that when a word ends in Y where the Y means "like", as in "gunk-like", it should be allowed. Obviously this wouldn't always be specified in the dictionary, but this is something I see wrong with the dictionary rather than the Countdown rules, and they could just go out of their way to specifiy -IER and -IEST in every case individually. But actually I don't think the "like" rule is actually that special, and it could be considered standard for all two-syllable adjectives that end consonant-Y. You'll let me know if there's a glaring hole in that one I'm sure.Jon O'Neill wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:20 pmThis is the ungaiest thing you've ever suggested.Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:18 pm I thought the challenger was unlucky with GUNKIEST. I think two-syllable adjectives that end in Y should be considered standard enough to take -IER and -IEST without it having to be specified.
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