Spoilers for Friday October 10th 2014 (S71 P63)

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Spoilers for Friday October 10th 2014 (S71 P63)

Post by Jordan F » Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:42 pm

Dan McColm is on two wins as we end the week. Can he get a 3rd to finish strongly?

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Post by Peter Mabey » Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:22 pm

Alt first numbers: (25+2x8)x(10+4)

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Post by Gavin Chipper » Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:23 pm

Dan's had a few awkward numbers games already in his run.

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Post by Tony Atkins » Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:28 pm

GERMANE alt to MEGARON
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Post by Tony Atkins » Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:32 pm

Gavin Chipper wrote:Dan's had a few awkward numbers games already in his run.
In the second numbers, seeing Rachel laughing gave a clue that it was actually easy if you spotted the trick.
I hadn't until then.
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Post by Tony Atkins » Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:35 pm

R7 cool in the CAFTAN
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Re: Spoilers for Friday October 10th 2014 (S71 P63)

Post by Dan McColm » Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:16 pm

Tony Atkins wrote:
Gavin Chipper wrote:Dan's had a few awkward numbers games already in his run.
In the second numbers, seeing Rachel laughing gave a clue that it was actually easy if you spotted the trick.
I hadn't until then.
Had I noticed it, Rachel's laughter would've put me off, if anything - I saw her laugh when I had 124 as a target with 4 large, and I panicked thinking it was really easy and I had overlooked something obvious (which I had). I didn't see my solution until 20 seconds in.

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Post by Fred Mumford » Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:19 pm

You kept pretty relaxed for someone "literally in flames".

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Post by Jojo Apollo » Fri Oct 10, 2014 4:03 pm

WHATEV :roll: talk about dumbed-down words being let in. Can we use a new dictionary please, a sensible one?

Anyway well done, Dan.

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Post by Gavin Chipper » Fri Oct 10, 2014 4:19 pm

Tony Atkins wrote:
Gavin Chipper wrote:Dan's had a few awkward numbers games already in his run.
In the second numbers, seeing Rachel laughing gave a clue that it was actually easy if you spotted the trick.
I hadn't until then.
They're all easy if you spot the trick! (This one wasn't particularly simple relatively speaking.)

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Post by Jon Corby » Fri Oct 10, 2014 4:48 pm

I know you were attempting humility, but I'm not sure all the "oh woe is me" stuff with the numbers was particularly well-advised when your opponent was struggling to score in any round at the time.

Congrats on the wins so far though :)

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Post by Dan McColm » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:02 pm

Jojo Apollo wrote:WHATEV :roll: talk about dumbed-down words being let in. Can we use a new dictionary please, a sensible one?

Anyway well done, Dan.
I disagree, I think dictonaries should reflect, rather than dictate, language usage.

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Post by Dan McColm » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:04 pm

Jon Corby wrote:I know you were attempting humility, but I'm not sure all the "oh woe is me" stuff with the numbers was particularly well-advised when your opponent was struggling to score in any round at the time.

Congrats on the wins so far though :)
Yeah, I must admit I did cringe watching that back. Thanks, it was definitely a relief to get these 3 wins on the board and get some rest after a long day's recording, as Tony Atkins likes to say.

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Post by Jon Corby » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:26 pm

Dan McColm wrote:Yeah, I must admit I did cringe watching that back.
Glad to hear it. I had a good three paragraph rant lined up if you were going to defend it :) I'll save it for the next prick.

She was spotting decent stuff, but when you see stuff like UNCREATE, MEGARON and possibly even SOLARIZE, you just think "ah shit, she doesn't have a chance" :(

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Post by Jojo Apollo » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:31 pm

Dan McColm wrote:
Jojo Apollo wrote:WHATEV :roll: talk about dumbed-down words being let in. Can we use a new dictionary please, a sensible one?

Anyway well done, Dan.
I disagree, I think dictonaries should reflect, rather than dictate, language usage.
Fair enough, we can look forward to WHENEV, WHOEV, WHOMEV, WHOMSOEV, WHATSOEV, WASSUP and TITTYBUM. All splendid additions to PAINEDER, HINGEDEST etc.

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Post by Jack Worsley » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:52 pm

Srsly, Jojo?

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Post by Dan McColm » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:55 pm

Jojo Apollo wrote:
Dan McColm wrote:
Jojo Apollo wrote:WHATEV :roll: talk about dumbed-down words being let in. Can we use a new dictionary please, a sensible one?

Anyway well done, Dan.
I disagree, I think dictonaries should reflect, rather than dictate, language usage.
Fair enough, we can look forward to WHENEV, WHOEV, WHOMEV, WHOMSOEV, WHATSOEV, WASSUP and TITTYBUM. All splendid additions to PAINEDER, HINGEDEST etc.
If people actually said these things, then yeah, but I don't think there's a speaker really who would say WHOMSOEV or TITTYBUM. And things like PAINEDER and HORNEDEST support my point - the reason there's so much fuss about these being valid on apterous is because nobody uses these forms! And anyway, what if someone didn't know the meaning of WHATEV and wanted to look it up?

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Post by Gavin Chipper » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:06 pm

The problem with this dictionary is that it doesn't really reflect usage. They leave out "boring" words like LAGGY, and bring in words like OMNISHAMBLES that no-one uses because it makes good press. WHATEVS and WHATEV presumably came in because they're the sort of words that newspapers would report. Any other word would have to be in common usage for years before getting in. So it's not that I mind words like that getting in per se, but let's have some fucking consistency.

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Post by James Robinson » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:07 pm

Jojo Apollo wrote:WHATEV :roll: talk about dumbed-down words being let in. Can we use a new dictionary please, a sensible one?

Anyway well done, Dan.
It certainly was brilliant you getting that word, definitely lightened the mood in the audience further. Certainly a great end to the recording day, and then as you know, it was a great night out afterwards. ;) :) :D

3rd Numbers Alt.: (25 + 6) x 3 x 5 = 465
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Post by Jojo Apollo » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:12 pm

Jack Worsley wrote:Srsly, Jojo?
No, Jack. I was being SARCAS. ;)

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Post by Jojo Apollo » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:30 pm

Dan McColm wrote:
If people actually said these things, then yeah, but I don't think there's a speaker really who would say WHOMSOEV or TITTYBUM. And things like PAINEDER and HORNEDEST support my point - the reason there's so much fuss about these being valid on apterous is because nobody uses these forms! And anyway, what if someone didn't know the meaning of WHATEV and wanted to look it up?
What if they wanted to look up a word like MOTELIER and found it wasn't in the dictionary because there wasn't enough space in the dictionary, the space having been taken up by words such as WHATEV?

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Post by Kirk Bevins » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:33 pm

Just watched this back. One of the numbers Dan had a 50 6 and 8 left and he needed a 7 so he was one away. (50+6)/8 could have got him there.

Could shape up to be an exciting finals week (if he makes it) as he's not as invincible as I thought!

Oh and we need more female characters like today's contestant. Decent player-shame she had to play an aptobot lol

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Post by Dan McColm » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:45 pm

Gavin Chipper wrote:The problem with this dictionary is that it doesn't really reflect usage. They leave out "boring" words like LAGGY, and bring in words like OMNISHAMBLES that no-one uses because it makes good press. WHATEVS and WHATEV presumably came in because they're the sort of words that newspapers would report. Any other word would have to be in common usage for years before getting in. So it's not that I mind words like that getting in per se, but let's have some fucking consistency.
Yeah, agree with this mostly, but OMNISHAMBLES was one of those fad words that stopped being used after a while, but WHATEV(S) really is something that is used a lot in certain informal styles of English.

And Jojo, obviously the dictionary has limited space, so it has to prioritise words that occur with more frequency (though I'm not sure why it hasn't done this for laggy*). I'd expect WHATEV to be more common than MOTELIER, but I can't check right now.

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Post by Dan McColm » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:49 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:Just watched this back. One of the numbers Dan had a 50 6 and 8 left and he needed a 7 so he was one away. (50+6)/8 could have got him there.

Could shape up to be an exciting finals week (if he makes it) as he's not as invincible as I thought!

Oh and we need more female characters like today's contestant. Decent player-shame she had to play an aptobot lol
Lower your expectations :p One thing that worried me about going on was people saying stuff like "OMG you can break the record easily" and "you could get a max mocktorun!" Obviously my game yesterday was below par, but I'd argue that 12 and 13 maxes today and Wednesday is not too shabby, and the kind of performance to be expected (I was averaging 12.1 maxes before recording), rather than expecting a string of max games or something!

EDIT: Yes, (50+6)/8 would've made 7, but adding a small to large and then dividing by another small to make an intermediate number isn't something I'd think to try even in apterous, let alone under the pressure of the studio!
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Post by Jojo Apollo » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:50 pm

No worries, Dan. :)

Out of interest, how did you know WHATEV was valid, it isn't allowed on apterous?

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Post by Dan McColm » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:54 pm

Jojo Apollo wrote:No worries, Dan. :)

Out of interest, how did you know WHATEV was valid, it isn't allowed on apterous?
I studied a list of ODO additions before filming (didn't help me with LORRYLOAD though!)

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Post by Graeme Cole » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:56 pm

Dan McColm wrote:And Jojo, obviously the dictionary has limited space
Does it? The print edition, yes, but I doubt that's true of the online edition. At least, any technical limit would be far in excess of the space they'd need.

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Post by Jojo Apollo » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:13 pm

Dan McColm wrote:
Jojo Apollo wrote:No worries, Dan. :)

Out of interest, how did you know WHATEV was valid, it isn't allowed on apterous?
I studied a list of ODO additions before filming (didn't help me with LORRYLOAD though!)
Ah righto, cheers.

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Post by Dan McColm » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:25 pm

Graeme Cole wrote:
Dan McColm wrote:And Jojo, obviously the dictionary has limited space
Does it? The print edition, yes, but I doubt that's true of the online edition. At least, any technical limit would be far in excess of the space they'd need.
True, which explains why all of the ODE2 words came back, as there was no longer a space constraint, but I imagine there's still some sort of frequency test that new words have to pass before they're added, which can be overruled if a word makes good press, as Gevin says.

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Post by Gavin Chipper » Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:18 pm

Dan McColm wrote:One thing that worried me about going on was people saying stuff like "OMG you can break the record easily" and "you could get a max mocktorun!"
To be honest, I switched off as soon as you missed your first max and assumed you'd probably walked out of the studio in shame. I'm surprised to hear you carried on.

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Post by Dan McColm » Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:32 pm

Gavin Chipper wrote:
Dan McColm wrote:One thing that worried me about going on was people saying stuff like "OMG you can break the record easily" and "you could get a max mocktorun!"
To be honest, I switched off as soon as you missed your first max and assumed you'd probably walked out of the studio in shame. I'm surprised to hear you carried on.
:D :D :D It would actually be a max octorun, not a mockto, in that example

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Post by Kirk Bevins » Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:40 pm

Dan McColm wrote:
EDIT: Yes, (50+6)/8 would've made 7, but adding a small to large and then dividing by another small to make an intermediate number isn't something I'd think to try even in apterous, let alone under the pressure of the studio!
Really? This is something I often look for as it comes up quite a lot in 2 large games... (50-8)/6 also gives 7 in the above case.

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Post by Dan McColm » Sat Oct 11, 2014 9:07 am

Kirk Bevins wrote:
Dan McColm wrote:
EDIT: Yes, (50+6)/8 would've made 7, but adding a small to large and then dividing by another small to make an intermediate number isn't something I'd think to try even in apterous, let alone under the pressure of the studio!
Really? This is something I often look for as it comes up quite a lot in 2 large games... (50-8)/6 also gives 7 in the above case.
I didn't practise any 2 large at all before recording, just 1L, 4L and 6S.

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Post by Martin Long » Sat Oct 11, 2014 9:57 am

Well done again Dan, another solid performance! I got the 1st and 2nd numbers rounds by different methods to Rachel but you still beat me playing at home fairly comfortably.:)

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