So, who will be the founding member of Countdown's "1000 CLUB"?

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"JE" is of an ability to do so, likewise a few others like Matt Hall and of course Elliott- thinking of potential top players who could make an appearance at some point inbetween the next year or so....
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Tom S wrote: Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:05 pm "JE" is of an ability to do so, likewise a few others like Matt Hall and of course Elliott- thinking of potential top players who could make an appearance at some point inbetween the next year or so....
Ability is one thing, accomplishment of such a goal is another. I don't think it's very likely 1000 will be done - it's such a high barrier and to achieve it would require not only a very high level of skill but also a ridiculous amount of luck.

I played a mocktorun earlier and got 972, 98 maxes, 91% of the max score. Admittedly you could argue that at my absolute best I might have pushed 1000 but then you've got to consider that prune won't nick rounds off me, nor choose in a particularly horrible way, pick 4 large or whatever. To get 91+% and a similar number of maxes is harder on the show for sure. Especially as now with the new dictionary you could have opponents who just get lucky and guess some feasible sounding word and have it accepted because the new dictionary just basically allows all sorts of rubbish, all in all it doesn't make 1000 sound very doable at all.

I think 974 might just about be beatable, but the chances of 1000 being done are quite slim indeed.
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L'oisleatch McGraw wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:39 pm
Conor wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:18 amwon't happen
If you wanna put your money where your mouth is, €10 says it happens before S80, and €100 says it happens before the end of the year 2020. :)


It is interesting reading back over this thread more than 7 months later... here are a few things that stand out:-

1. Of the known Apterites we still have Matthew B and Perhaps Barry B and Johhny C's octoruns to look forward to. They are all likely to win 8 games and to score rather well... so who knows?

2. It now seems Zarte will be allowed back before S80, so there is another major contender right there.

3. Elliott Mellor, to my mind. has a decent shot at this now too. When this thread was started, he was not yet an Apterite. Now he has reached a level where he can score close to 1000 on a Mocktorun, and he's still improving. Who knows who else might enter the frame in the next 6 months?

4. As ever, the chance is there that some of the seriously talented ones who have declared themselves 'out' as far as a TV appearance is concerned, might have a change of heart and surprise us all.


The 2017-2020 period is shaping up to being a very interesting time to be a Countdown fan.
Do your bets still stand? And are they both at evens? Because then I'd like to take you up on the first one.
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Seems like a good time to revisit this...
L'oisleatch McGraw wrote: Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:14 am Given that the average octomax for the current series is 1061, surely the very first 1000 scorer (kilochamp?) is due to grace our screens before S80?
^^^I think it's fair to revise the above by removing the word "before" and replacing it with "by the end of"... particularly in light of the great S79 conspiracy.

The likelihood is -as I write this- the 1000 club has already been founded. If so, some people know this, but have to keep it under wraps until the episodes have aired. There is a chance that Elliott managed to do it during his recording session last week... there is even a fair enough chance that Dinos (assuming the maxes were decent for the remaining four games) might have done it first!

Dinos has played 4 games and amassed 494pts. That's only 6pts away from being on track to break the glass ceiling.
If he can average 126pts in the remaining games... he becomes the first! :mrgreen: (I suspect Damian would relish the prospect of one of the old guard -from Conor, Kirk and Charlie's vintage- taking 1000's cherry.)

That said, my money would be on Dinos to *just* miss out, and for Elliott to do it this series (assuming his form online can be replicated under the glare of the studio lights)
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Conor wrote: Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:46 pm
L'oisleatch McGraw wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:39 pm
Conor wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:18 amwon't happen
If you wanna put your money where your mouth is, €10 says it happens before S80, and €100 says it happens before the end of the year 2020. :)
Do your bets still stand? And are they both at evens? Because then I'd like to take you up on the first one.
But not the second one. ;)
(I'll give you the tenner when/if I meet you at some Countdown related event in the future.)
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L'oisleatch McGraw wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:17 pm Dinos has played 4 games and amassed 494pts. That's only 6pts away from being on track to break the glass ceiling.
If he can average 126pts in the remaining games... he becomes the first! :mrgreen: (I suspect Damian would relish the prospect of one of the old guard -from Conor, Kirk and Charlie's vintage- taking 1000's cherry.)

That said, my money would be on Dinos to *just* miss out, and for Elliott to do it this series (assuming his form online can be replicated under the glare of the studio lights)
Based on how he's played so far, I think he will miss out. He has had the odd miss and 494 is a very high score based on his performances. But if he plays at his best level for the remaining games then maybe.
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Remind me not to attempt a mathematical or stats based analysis late at night... This is so error strewn!

L'oisleatch McGraw wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:17 pm Dinos has played 4 games and amassed 494pts.


Nope, that was Kerry Copland's total. Dinos had 476pts after 4 games.
So would need to average 131pts per game... That would require too much luck re: max availability.

L'oisleatch McGraw wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:17 pm If he can average 126pts in the remaining games... he becomes the first!
That's wrong too... If he had scored 494pts, an average of 126 per remaining game would have taken his total to a brilliant (but rather agonising) 998.

L'oisleatch McGraw wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:17 pm That said, my money would be on Dinos to *just* miss out, and for Elliott to do it this series.
This is the only part of the post that, imo, stands up to scrutiny.
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An average of 117 for Elliott in his remaining games would do it.

The balance of probabilities may now be in his favour...
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Phil H wrote: Mon May 20, 2019 9:28 pm An average of 117 for Elliott in his remaining games would do it.

The balance of probabilities may now be in his favour...
Looking like a certainty- he's a great spotter and also seems to know how to create the 9 letter selections.
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Thomas Carey wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:10 am
Zarte Siempre wrote: Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:55 am The odds on a player good enough to do it getting a good enough set of letters with which to do it are very small. The odds on them actually caring enough to try and work towards it is even less likely.
Enter Elliott Mellor.

inb4 obvious jokes
This is probably one of the best posts on the thread as far as drama is concerned. It makes sense that the "inb4 obvious jokes" was written in teeny tiny font... as it's not really a joke! ;) Seven days left until the fact that Countdown's glass ceiling has been utterly smashed, becomes public domain* knowledge.

*No spoiler here. I don't know how the rest of this plays out, but... an average of 117 required by a player that has averaged 139 so far. It's looking good.
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I'd bet money on Elliott making 1000. But I won't
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Tom S wrote: Mon May 20, 2019 9:30 pm
Phil H wrote: Mon May 20, 2019 9:28 pm An average of 117 for Elliott in his remaining games would do it.

The balance of probabilities may now be in his favour...
Looking like a certainty- he's a great spotter and also seems to know how to create the 9 letter selections.
Nothing's ever a certainty - got everything crossed though! New recording day - let's hope our lad got a good night's sleep!
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Fiona you can get banned for stuff like that you don’t know that. DELETE IT.
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Found the forum troll.
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L'oisleatch McGraw wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:17 pm I suspect Damian would relish the prospect of one of the old guard -from Conor, Kirk and Charlie's vintage- taking 1000's cherry.
Based on what exactly, other than your own imagination? :roll:
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Countdown Team wrote: Wed May 22, 2019 9:36 pm
L'oisleatch McGraw wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:17 pm I suspect Damian would relish the prospect of one of the old guard -from Conor, Kirk and Charlie's vintage- taking 1000's cherry.
Based on what exactly, other than your own imagination? :roll:
Pretty much that, yep.
Damian is the ultimate puppet master and pantomime villain of the Countdown community, in my weird / wonderful little universe. :)
(My version of him also loves the pre/early Apterous period from c2005-2010 the most.)
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Weird, most definitely.
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Thanks! It truly is.
Wonderful too though...
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This thread won't be needed soon.
Elliott's average score = 135pts.
Average score needed over the final 3 games = 108pts.
Elliott's lowest score to date = 118pts.
I doubt even a villainous ANCHOVETA could stop this freight train. :lol:
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L'oisleatch McGraw wrote: Wed May 22, 2019 10:43 pm Thanks! It truly is.
Wonderful too though...
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This thread won't be needed soon.
Elliott's average score = 135pts.
Average score needed over the final 3 games = 108pts.
Elliott's lowest score to date = 118pts.
I doubt even a villainous ANCHOVETA could stop this freight train. :lol:
Imo anchoveta is one of the most famous conundrums. So I agree with you.
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Fiona T wrote: Tue May 21, 2019 6:51 am
Tom S wrote: Mon May 20, 2019 9:30 pm
Phil H wrote: Mon May 20, 2019 9:28 pm An average of 117 for Elliott in his remaining games would do it.

The balance of probabilities may now be in his favour...
Looking like a certainty- he's a great spotter and also seems to know how to create the 9 letter selections.
Nothing's ever a certainty - got everything crossed though! New recording day - let's hope our lad got a good night's sleep!
But surely you must already know, being an octochamp this series so you would have been at the quarters etc.?
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Gavin Chipper wrote: Thu May 23, 2019 2:04 pm
Fiona T wrote: Tue May 21, 2019 6:51 am
Tom S wrote: Mon May 20, 2019 9:30 pm

Looking like a certainty- he's a great spotter and also seems to know how to create the 9 letter selections.
Nothing's ever a certainty - got everything crossed though! New recording day - let's hope our lad got a good night's sleep!
But surely you must already know, being an octochamp this series so you would have been at the quarters etc.?
Not sure if it was mentioned tbh, although there was much talk about Elliott's general awesomeness! I know when Nick announced my total score at the beginning of my QF, it was out by about 150. :)
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Thomas Carey wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:10 am Enter Elliott Mellor.
And we have our answer today, on Monday, 27 May 2019! :D Sorry if I had to quote someone from over a year ago...
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36'years and over 7000 episodes later and we have the 1000 club founding member!!!
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Scoring 1000 in the 9 round era would have been special indeed.

Anyway, it'll be like the 4 minute mile - now 1000 has been broken, within weeks every octochamp will be doing it (I don't really need a sarcasm emoji for that one do I?).
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L'oisleatch McGraw wrote: Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:14 am 12. Or maybe the first member of the 1000 club is someone who has yet to discover the online community? All we can say for sure is… we are living in interesting times. A golden age of Countdowning… that has yet to reach a peak. :mrgreen:
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1061.
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See below. In a way, it's not surprising, but in another way, it only hits home when you see it in black and white: Elliott got 97.5% of the available max, further ahead of the previous best than it was ahead of the previous 10th place.

(Forgive my inability to use the quote function.)
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L'oisleatch McGraw wrote: Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:14 am


Most crucially, here are the top 10 players when arranged by percentage max achieved:-


#1. [S69] Jen S. (952) = Max of 1024 [93%]
#2. [S69] Dylan T. (974) = Max of 1050 [93%]
#3. [S57] Craig B. (907) = Max of 987 [92%]
#4. [S71] Dan McC. (942) = Max of 1026 [92%]
#5. [S63] Jack H. (946) = Max of 1031 [92%]
#6. [S72] Tom C. (927) = Max of 1011 [92%]
#7. [S64] Ed McC. (896) = Max of 979 [92%]
#8. [S68] Giles H. (965) = Max of 1060 [91%]
#9. [S48] Julian F. (924) = Max of 1015 [91%]
#10. [S73] Thomas C. (923) = Max of 1025 [90%]





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Phil H wrote: Mon May 27, 2019 8:43 pm See below. In a way, it's not surprising, but in another way, it only hits home when you see it in black and white: Elliott got 97.5% of the available max, further ahead of the previous best as it was ahead of the previous 10th place.

(Forgive my inability to use the quote function.)
I agree - for those who are saying his opponents weren't particularly strong, or that the dictionary is easier to score high on more recently, those figures speak for themselves.

The young man we saw over the last 8 shows is truly phenomenal, and he should be damned proud of what his talent and hard work has achieved. Great job Elliott!
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The 5 areas that most damage the max score % are missed conundrums (Elliott didn't), missed 9s (Elliott didn't), missed numbers (he maxed 31/32), invalid words (just Moonies), and being beaten by your opponent (he wasn't).

This octorun record could last 20 years.
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Conor wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:18 amwon't happen
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Phil H wrote: Mon May 27, 2019 8:43 pm See below. In a way, it's not surprising, but in another way, it only hits home when you see it in black and white: Elliott got 97.5% of the available max, further ahead of the previous best than it was ahead of the previous 10th place.
I love when my stats randomly become relevant :D
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Elliott was amazing
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You will be pleased to know that I have changed my password to stop some arsehole logging into my account
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Ashton Hancock wrote: Wed May 29, 2019 2:48 pm You will be pleased to know that I have changed my password to stop some arsehole logging into my account
1) That's totally off topic.
2) Repeating this story on loads of topics doesn't make people any more likely to believe you.
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Elliott What is your favourite numbers selection
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Ashton Hancock wrote: Wed May 29, 2019 5:19 pm Elliott What is your favourite numbers selection
Also off topic.
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But what is it please I am intrigued to know
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Please answer Elliott
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I think Elliott only lost 3 points on the numbers and got all the conundrums, so that would mean that to get 1061, his points totals must have been:

Letters: 664
Numbers: 317
Conundrums: 80

Per round that would be:

Letters: 8.3
Numbers: 9.90625
Conundrums: 10

With these averages, his score would convert to 1048.15 in the old 15 format (still over 131 per game) and 636.9 in the 9-round format (about 79.6 per game). Given that the 8-game record for 9-rounders was 535, that would put him over 100 ahead! I know the current dictionary has more words, but it's still way ahead.
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Ashton Hancock wrote: Wed May 29, 2019 5:26 pm Please answer Elliott
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Another interesting thing is that when Julian Fell set his octo score of 924, it was seen as in a different league from anything before. It was 49 points or 5.6% higher than Chris Wills's total of 875. But Elliott Mellor's 1061 beats Dylan Taylor's record of 974 by a whopping 87 points or 8.9%. And given that it's harder to make improvements the higher the scores already are, I would argue that this raises the standard for octoruns by a much greater amount than Julian Fell did.

Obviously though, this isn't the same as raising the overall standard, because some players reached a much higher standard after completing their octorun, notably Conor Travers who after scoring 890 went on to win the 30th Birthday thing, casually maxing three games in a row along the way.

So definitely the best octochamp ever, but the best player ever? Well, let's see how he gets on in the rest of the series and then any future tournaments he might be invited to subsequently.
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Gavin Chipper wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:07 pm With these averages, his score would convert to 1048.15 in the old 15 format (still over 131 per game) and 636.9 in the 9-round format (about 79.6 per game). Given that the 8-game record for 9-rounders was 535, that would put him over 100 ahead! I know the current dictionary has more words, but it's still way ahead.
It's also way ahead of the maximum for that 535, which was 611.
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Gavin Chipper wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:07 pm I think Elliott only lost 3 points on the numbers and got all the conundrums, so that would mean that to get 1061, his points totals must have been:

Letters: 664
Numbers: 317
Conundrums: 80

Per round that would be:

Letters: 8.3
Numbers: 9.90625
Conundrums: 10

With these averages, his score would convert to 1048.15 in the old 15 format (still over 131 per game) and 636.9 in the 9-round format (about 79.6 per game). Given that the 8-game record for 9-rounders was 535, that would put him over 100 ahead! I know the current dictionary has more words, but it's still way ahead.
Gavin Chipper wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:56 pm Another interesting thing is that when Julian Fell set his octo score of 924, it was seen as in a different league from anything before. It was 49 points or 5.6% higher than Chris Wills's total of 875. But Elliott Mellor's 1061 beats Dylan Taylor's record of 974 by a whopping 87 points or 8.9%. And given that it's harder to make improvements the higher the scores already are, I would argue that this raises the standard for octoruns by a much greater amount than Julian Fell did.

Obviously though, this isn't the same as raising the overall standard, because some players reached a much higher standard after completing their octorun, notably Conor Travers who after scoring 890 went on to win the 30th Birthday thing, casually maxing three games in a row along the way.

So definitely the best octochamp ever, but the best player ever? Well, let's see how he gets on in the rest of the series and then any future tournaments he might be invited to subsequently.
I had a look at the ODE2 (because it was to hand) to see which of Elliott's nines were in it. By my interpretation, it would've disallowed Neoterism, Nodalizes, Infracted, and Posteriad. The alternative to the first of those, Moistener, was also invalid.

If you want to draw conclusions about how great a advance has been made, the change to the online dictionary looks too big a factor to ignore. I was thinking that if the average max in the current series is 5% higher than it was when Dylan appeared, you could say that 5% of the difference in scores is down to the dictionary. But that's probably unfair because, I would assume, a bigger dictionary makes it harder to get equally close the max.
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Clive Brooker wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:34 pm
If you want to draw conclusions about how great a advance has been made, the change to the online dictionary looks too big a factor to ignore. I was thinking that if the average max in the current series is 5% higher than it was when Dylan appeared, you could say that 5% of the difference in scores is down to the dictionary. But that's probably unfair because, I would assume, a bigger dictionary makes it harder to get equally close the max.
I think the table below encompasses everything discussed here. Elliott got 97.5% of the available max. It's not even close. You can argue that other players reached levels higher than during their octorun later on, but in terms of best octorun it's Elliott by a mile by any sensible measure.
L'oisleatch McGraw wrote: Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:14 am


Most crucially, here are the top 10 players when arranged by percentage max achieved:-


#1. [S69] Jen S. (952) = Max of 1024 [93%]
#2. [S69] Dylan T. (974) = Max of 1050 [93%]
#3. [S57] Craig B. (907) = Max of 987 [92%]
#4. [S71] Dan McC. (942) = Max of 1026 [92%]
#5. [S63] Jack H. (946) = Max of 1031 [92%]
#6. [S72] Tom C. (927) = Max of 1011 [92%]
#7. [S64] Ed McC. (896) = Max of 979 [92%]
#8. [S68] Giles H. (965) = Max of 1060 [91%]
#9. [S48] Julian F. (924) = Max of 1015 [91%]
#10. [S73] Thomas C. (923) = Max of 1025 [90%]


Spare a thought for Kirk who misses this Top 10 by a whisker. He is tied with Thomas on 90% maxes, but as Thomas’s % is actually 90.0488% and Kirk’s is 89.7187%, Thomas takes 10th place.
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Fred Mumford wrote: Mon May 27, 2019 10:03 pm This octorun record could last 20 years.
Not even a 20 month wait for Elliott to have some company in the club.
Congrats to Luke*! :mrgreen:

*I assume.
102pts required from someone with an average of 128 or better. It's bound to happen.
We'll know in around 10hrs time.
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Please welcome our second ever member to the 1000 Club now, Luke Johnson-Davies!! :D
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We are on the cusp...
Another Luke about to use the force (of his anagramming skill) to join the relatively newly minted but burgeoning 1000 club!
Atta Boynton!

But enough with the cringy puns. No-one's here for those!

The concept of CD's 1000 club has moved on greatly since this thread was first made. From a fanciful notion that was met with scorn by some, to a reality, and now... I believe it has moved to a new stage. That of a gold standard. Something that you aspire to if you are a top player. From now on, for any new player that gets to the top 5 in Pro-Ranks, when they record for TV, there will be an expectation that they can breach 1000 (and possibly even 1100, but shhh).

Here are some (rather interesting imo) facts about our latest 1000 club inductee*:-
~Has been on Apto for a year.
~Has a rolling rating of <2000.
~Has yet to break into the Pro-Ranks top 10.
~Was beaten on one or two rounds on telly.
(Aka, is human after all.)

It will be interesting to see what his max % ends up being. But overall, the message here is: 1000 is now officially the new 900.

*Not official yet, this assumes he can score more than 75pts in his 8th show, having averaged over 125pts so far. So... yeah.
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It does still massively depend on what selections come up. Sam C-L was a very similar standard to Luke B, but only had 1045 points available. Luke B had 1025 available just from his first 7 games. And that's not obviously due to particular picking skill - most 9s have come from a fairly obvious 4 vowel pick, and often he picks 4 vowels before the 4th consonant, so ruling out picking for a 3V selection.

Luke J-D similarly had 1129 points to play with. Elliott was in the middle with 1088, and obviously got much closer to that than any of the others, so of the 4 is the one with the best chance given Sam's selections (plus he'd have been choosing 1L more to bump it up a bit).
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L'oisleatch McGraw wrote: Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:14 am Series 75


Highest max = 1093
Lowest max = 1025
Average max = 1061



Series 55


Highest max = 1066
Lowest max = 990
Average max = 1022

It would be interesting to see if, in the age of regular OED updates, this average octomax stat has been steadily rising with each new series...
Thomas Cappleman wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 2:42 pm Sam C-L - 1045 points available.
Luke B - 1149 available.
Luke J-D - 1129 points to play with.
Elliott - 1088.
Each of these higher than the average S55 max.
All but Sam's, higher than the average S75 max.
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L'oisleatch McGraw wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:12 pm ~Has yet to break into the Pro-Ranks top 10.
Think he was 10th= a few months back, but lost 10th place because alphabet.
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Fiona T wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:07 pm
L'oisleatch McGraw wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:12 pm ~Has yet to break into the Pro-Ranks top 10.
Think he was 10th= a few months back, but lost 10th place because alphabet.
pro ranks is calculated to something like 11 decimal places, so the chance of an actual tie is v small
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Thomas Carey wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:36 am
Fiona T wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:07 pm
L'oisleatch McGraw wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:12 pm ~Has yet to break into the Pro-Ranks top 10.
Think he was 10th= a few months back, but lost 10th place because alphabet.
pro ranks is calculated to something like 11 decimal places, so the chance of an actual tie is v small
Ah ok - that's a no then!
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Luke's PB from an Mocktorun on Apterous is 995 (which had a max of 1046), from 24 attempts. Must be nice to do your best ever performance on the show - but the max available of 1149 was incredible, and he certainly made the most of it. I don't know if there's a way of finding out the highest max score ever on an Apterous Mocktorun, but for comparison in the list of the top 20 scores ever in the format (https://www.apterous.org/viewformat.php ... &section=1) the highest ever max score has been 1137.

Perhaps the show itself tends to give bigger maximum scores than Apterous on average, but then Sam CL's max was so much lower at 1045 - and Sam's % of the max score (939/1045 = 89.9%) was actually very slightly higher than Luke B's (1032/1149 = 89.8%), and slightly behind Luke JD's (1024/1129 = 90.7%) - but the comparison with Elliott puts them all in the shade (1061/1088 = 97.5% !!).
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Carl Harrison wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:59 am Luke's PB from an Mocktorun on Apterous is 995 (which had a max of 1046), from 24 attempts. Must be nice to do your best ever performance on the show - but the max available of 1149 was incredible, and he certainly made the most of it. I don't know if there's a way of finding out the highest max score ever on an Apterous Mocktorun, but for comparison in the list of the top 20 scores ever in the format (https://www.apterous.org/viewformat.php ... &section=1) the highest ever max score has been 1137.

Perhaps the show itself tends to give bigger maximum scores than Apterous on average, but then Sam CL's max was so much lower at 1045 - and Sam's % of the max score (939/1045 = 89.9%) was actually very slightly higher than Luke B's (1032/1149 = 89.8%), and slightly behind Luke JD's (1024/1129 = 90.7%) - but the comparison with Elliott puts them all in the shade (1061/1088 = 97.5% !!).
https://www.apterous.org/viewformat.php ... &section=3

So Luke's max would be the 3rd highest ever on Apterous
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Stats and that are all very interesting, but shouldn't undermine what was a cracking all round performance. A huge max helps, but you've still got to spot the words!

Congrats Luke - it was a fun run to watch - I learned some new words, and I look forward to seeing how you get on in the finals!
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Fiona T wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 10:05 am Stats and that are all very interesting, but shouldn't undermine...
This thread is not about 'undermining'. It is about discussion of stats.
Feel free to set up a "Celebrating wonderful achievements" thread where we can pour oodles of praise on each new Octochamp.
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Hypothetically is being a member of the 1000 club better than scoring in every round of an octorun?
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Ryan Lam wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 1:53 pm Edited because spoilers- mod
Surely deleting the post would have been better?
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Matt Morrison wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 4:30 pm
Ryan Lam wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 1:53 pm Edited because spoilers- mod
Surely deleting the post would have been better?
Which begs the question.
How long before it's not a spoiler?
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