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A sequence challenge

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The head of maths here has presented me with a sequence. It was apparently in an old year 7 question sheet, and it has flummoxed the entire maths department. What are the next few terms and/or what is the formula for the sequence?

Here it is:
1, 2, 6, 15, 16, 16, —15, —17
Any thoughts welcome!
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I absolutely despise these sort of questions, there are infinitely many formulas that will generate that sequence of numbers, so how are you meant to know which one is the one the question setter was thinking of?
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JackHurst wrote:I absolutely despise these sort of questions, there are infinitely many formulas that will generate that sequence of numbers, so how are you meant to know which one is the one the question setter was thinking of?
Parsimony!

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Bearing in mind my previous gripe, what comes next after 1, 2, 4, 8, 16?
Offer an explanation when you post your answer.
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17 because it goes +1+2+4+8 and then repeats.
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I remember at school we did this thing drawing lines through a circle or something and it was 31.
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Gavin Chipper wrote:I remember at school we did this thing drawing lines through a circle or something and it was 31.
Yeah, thats what I was thinking of.

http://www.uz.ac.zw/science/maths/zimaths/seq3132.htm
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James Hall wrote:The head of maths here has presented me with a sequence. It was apparently in an old year 7 question sheet, and it has flummoxed the entire maths department. What are the next few terms and/or what is the formula for the sequence?

Here it is:
1, 2, 6, 15, 16, 16, —15, —17
Any thoughts welcome!
Nth term is:
x+
(x-1)(x-2)(3/2)+
(x-1)(x-2)(x-3)(1/3)+
(x-1)(x-2)(x-3)(x-4)(-5/8)+
(x-1)(x-2)(x-3)(x-4)(x-5)(A)+
(x-1)(x-2)(x-3)(x-4)(x-5)(x-6)(B)+
(x-1)(x-2)(x-3)(x-4)(x-5)(x-6)(x-7)(C)+
(x-1)(x-2)(x-3)(x-4)(x-5)(x-6)(x-7)(x-8)(D)+
(x-1)(x-2)(x-3)(x-4)(x-5)(x-6)(x-7)(x-8)(x-9)(E)+...

Where A,B,C,D are numbers that can easily be worked out, one at a time following the pattern- in each step one more unknown enters the equations (the rest are all multiplied by 0), so it's simple, but time consuming to calculate them. And I reckon a year 7 could do that easily, provided they knew the right technique. It's very repetitive though, I imagine there's an easier way to generate such a sequence.
To answer the question, I think you can literally make the next number in the sequence whatever you like by changing E.
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Wat
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JackHurst wrote:
Gavin Chipper wrote:I remember at school we did this thing drawing lines through a circle or something and it was 31.
Yeah, thats what I was thinking of.
http://www.uz.ac.zw/science/maths/zimaths/seq3132.htm
Or 30, if it's factors of (n+1)!.
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Jon O'Neill wrote:Wat
I agree.
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Would someone please solve this. I haven't a f****ing clue and it's driving me nuts! :evil:
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