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Post by Maxine Silkstone » Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:45 am

Peter Mabey wrote: Yes (assuming you meant 'phased' - classical Greek's going, too ;) ) and yes: the plural of QUORUM would be ^QUORA, taking it as 2nd Declension, neuter, though as it's not actually a Latin noun, QUORUMS is OK.
Interesting, thanks! ODE says it's Olde English taken from Latin so the problems probably started back there! Bloody serfs!

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Post by Charlie Reams » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:29 pm

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Post by Jeffrey Burgin » Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:53 pm

DEFINITES (as in, people who are definite for a trip or something) and DOOSRA (Mr. Murali may have something to say about this).

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Post by Andrew Feist » Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:44 pm

ORDERINGS

I have worked with many partial orderings in my time. (I guess that's a predicate adjective instead of a noun. :( )

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Post by Charlie Reams » Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:52 pm

Andrew Feist wrote:ORDERINGS

I have worked with many partial orderings in my time. (I guess that's a predicate adjective instead of a noun. :( )
If we're talking about maths jargon then the absence of RATIONALS is surely the most egregious.

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Post by Liam Tiernan » Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:03 pm

HOSTILES
MATINGS
DONUTS ( ok American spelling, but surely common enough over here now?)
WASPIER

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Post by Kai Laddiman » Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:37 pm

Roflcopter.

I'm waiting for the Hyper dicitonary...
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Post by Kirk Bevins » Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:09 pm

LEASINGS and SEEDINGS

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Post by Charlie Reams » Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:14 pm

WTF is MATINGS?

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Post by Liam Tiernan » Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:30 pm

Charlie Reams wrote:WTF is MATINGS?
A word commonly used in the bloodstock industry.
Here's an example:
http://www.irish-national-stud.ie/stud/ ... acilities/

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Post by Charlie Reams » Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:47 pm

Liam Tiernan wrote:
Charlie Reams wrote:WTF is MATINGS?
A word commonly used in the bloodstock industry.
Here's an example:
http://www.irish-national-stud.ie/stud/ ... acilities/
Do you work in the bloodstock industry by any chance?

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Post by Liam Tiernan » Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:04 pm

Charlie Reams wrote:
Liam Tiernan wrote:
Charlie Reams wrote:WTF is MATINGS?
A word commonly used in the bloodstock industry.
Here's an example:
http://www.irish-national-stud.ie/stud/ ... acilities/
Do you work in the bloodstock industry by any chance?
No, surprisingly enough, but living where I do it's hard to avoid those who do. I take your point.

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Post by Kai Laddiman » Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:22 pm

16/10/2007 - Episode 4460
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Post by Michael Wallace » Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:05 pm

I had a game the other day where I (correctly) remember CLEAROUT isn't in (even though it clearly should), and so went for the 'safe' READOUT instead. Madness.

(and yes, I missed the 'obvious' 7)

I seem to recall that GIRLIEST and SHEMALE aren't in, either, which is even more ridiculous.

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16/10/2007 - Episode 4460
Dinos Sfyris 76 - 78 Dorian Lidell
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Post by Maxine Silkstone » Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:37 pm

Michael Wallace wrote:I had a game the other day where I (correctly) remember CLEAROUT isn't in (even though it clearly should), and so went for the 'safe' READOUT instead. Madness.
Ah two examples of the near extinct hyphen that lurks to catch you out when you least expect it!
Kai Laddiman wrote: ACETIC
That'd only be as part of Acetic Acid then.

I got HAMOUR
White fish of the Grouper family, popular in the middle east as cod substitute.

Not there! Maybe we ate them all? Expats and their need for Fish and Chips!

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Post by Gavin Chipper » Sat Jul 11, 2009 1:46 pm

Kai Laddiman wrote:Two in one game.
Blimey - apparently 729 isn't a real number.

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Post by Andrew Feist » Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:17 pm

TWISTABLE.

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Post by JackHurst » Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:26 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:LEASINGS and SEEDINGS
I remember those two as GLASSINE and EDGINESS.

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Post by Kirk Bevins » Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:42 pm

JackHurst wrote:
I remember those two as GLASSINE and EDGINESS.
Ditto.
Also MATIES should be in.

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Post by Phil Reynolds » Sun Jul 12, 2009 1:10 am

Kirk Bevins wrote:
JackHurst wrote: I remember those two as GLASSINE and EDGINESS.
Ditto.
Also MATIES should be in.
You could remember that one as SAMITE.

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Post by Charlie Reams » Sun Jul 12, 2009 1:17 pm

Phil Reynolds wrote:
Kirk Bevins wrote:
JackHurst wrote: I remember those two as GLASSINE and EDGINESS.
Ditto.
Also MATIES should be in.
You could remember that one as SAMITE.
I've been thinking for a while of making a list of these falseagrams on the Wiki. Maybe I should finally knuckle down to it.

Edit: Okay, I did it. Feel free to contribute your own.

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Post by JackHurst » Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:03 pm

Charlie Reams wrote: I've been thinking for a while of making a list of these falseagrams on the Wiki. Maybe I should finally knuckle down to it.

Edit: Okay, I did it. Feel free to contribute your own.
V nice, I similar page for misleading -ING word would be good.

Stuff like realing>REALIGN, tearings>ANGRIEST

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Post by David Roe » Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:28 pm

I know I've posted this elsewhere, but UNPLAITED. Cost me a chance (nay, certainty) of octochampdom. (That's another word that isn't in. ;) )

There's a lot of un- words left out, presumably as a space-saver rather than because they don't exist. But apart from the obvious idea that once you've plaited hair, sooner or later you're going to unplait it; a horse's tail which isn't plaited is routinely described as unplaited. Particularly galling that the word right next to it in the dictionary (or where it should be) is UNPLANTED - a plant which hasn't been planted yet. Hmm. Anyone ever heard that one used?

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Post by Kai Laddiman » Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:23 pm

Charlie Reams wrote:Edit: Okay, I did it. Feel free to contribute your own.
ENSCONSE -> CONDENSE

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Post by JimBentley » Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:40 pm

FOAMINESS is unbelievably not in.
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Post by Lesley Hines » Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:42 pm

PANEERS - I've been known to enjoy a few in my time. Just not in my last game!
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Post by Charlie Reams » Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:44 pm

Lesley Hines wrote:PANEERS - I've been known to enjoy a few in my time. Just not in my last game!
PANEER is valid, it's just that there doesn't seem to be a realistic plural sense.

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Post by Matt Morrison » Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:52 pm

discovered PUGIL^ and BOOLEAN^ today

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Post by Darren Carter » Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:24 pm

Matt Morrison wrote:discovered PUGIL^ and BOOLEAN^ today
I have tried Boolean before (not on Apterous, but whilst playing the show at home) and thought it would have been ok. I remembered the word from A-Level Electronics but didn't realise it was named after someone and was capitalised.

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Post by Lesley Hines » Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:04 pm

Matt Morrison wrote:discovered PUGIL^ and BOOLEAN^ today
Are you trying to start an argument? ;)
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Lesley Hines wrote:
Matt Morrison wrote:discovered PUGIL^ and BOOLEAN^ today
Are you trying to start an argument? ;)
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Post by Maxine Silkstone » Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:27 pm

LOVEHEART... not the sweet obviously, that's a proper noun, but the shape. So disappointing, thought I had not only a nine but a compound word (which I'm crap at). Not there at all, not even hyphenated or as a little tiny subentry. :cry:

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Post by Derek Hazell » Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:07 pm

Is "stoney" the American form of "stony". I was surprised it was not in, but having checked online, I can only find out that it is an alternative spelling, but not if it is American.
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Post by Alec Rivers » Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:11 am

From my disallowed words:

He drank from a TEATED bottle.
The AORTAL muscles had weakened.
COMETH the hour, COMETH the man.
The latest JETPACK has a 5-mile range.
They were made using different DOUGHS.
A variety of flowers - a variety of POLLENS.
I've baked two varieties, spiced and UNSPICED.
All the peoples of the world, but why not CATTLES?
He watched too many PORNOS. (The singular is in.)

And, on the inconsistency of English rather than the subject of inclusion, why is it BATH > BATHE but not MOUTH > MOUTHE?

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Post by Kirk Bevins » Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:05 am

Alec Rivers wrote:From my disallowed words:

He drank from a TEATED bottle.
I tried TEATED at a CO-event against Stewart Holden and they laughed at me. The example I gave was a 4-teated pig. They laughed but it made sense to me - I mean, you can have NIPPLED!

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Post by Alec Rivers » Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:54 am

Kirk Bevins wrote:I mean, you can have NIPPLED!
Which I've declared before, lol.

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Post by Kai Laddiman » Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:47 am

Derek Hazell wrote:Is "stoney" the American form of "stony".
STONEY isn't in at all.
Alec Rivers wrote:From my disallowed words:

The AORTAL muscles had weakened.
COMETH the hour, COMETH the man.
The latest JETPACK has a 5-mile range.
They were made using different DOUGHS.
A variety of flowers - a variety of POLLENS.
All the peoples of the world, but why not CATTLES?
He watched too many PORNOS. (The singular is in.)
AORTIC
I was amazed COMETH isn't in as well
Not in at all, even JET PACK
Should be allowed (IMO) by mass noun food and drink rule
Doubt it
CATTLE is only listed as plural noun, PEOPLE is also listed as verb
How can you watch too many pornos? I mean, it's listed under PORN, as a mass noun

Man, they need to hurry up and update the dictionary.
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Post by Phil Reynolds » Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:16 pm

Alec Rivers wrote:And, on the inconsistency of English rather than the subject of inclusion, why is it BATH > BATHE but not MOUTH > MOUTHE?
Presumably because the E on the end of BATHE is there to indicate the change of vowel sound on the A.

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Post by Alec Rivers » Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:35 pm

Phil Reynolds wrote:
Alec Rivers wrote:And, on the inconsistency of English rather than the subject of inclusion, why is it BATH > BATHE but not MOUTH > MOUTHE?
Presumably because the E on the end of BATHE is there to indicate the change of vowel sound on the A.
That makes sense. I thought it was to change the TH from θ to ð. I still think it would be a useful distinction, though. ;)

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Post by Shaun Hegarty » Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:42 pm

I spotted monopolar on the show and DC didn't have it and I was quite chuffed with myself but found that apterous doesn't allow it. :(

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Post by Charlie Reams » Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:05 pm

Shaun Hegarty wrote:I spotted monopolar on the show and DC didn't have it and I was quite chuffed with myself but found that apterous doesn't allow it. :(
It's UNIPOLAR dude.

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Post by Martin Bishop » Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:06 pm

Being a tennis fan, I was bewildered a little while back to find BASELINER isn't in, especially when its natural enemy, the serve and volleyer, does however make the cut.

Even more baffling is the omission of REINJURE
Charlie Reams wrote:
Andrew Feist wrote:ORDERINGS

I have worked with many partial orderings in my time. (I guess that's a predicate adjective instead of a noun. :( )
If we're talking about maths jargon then the absence of RATIONALS is surely the most egregious.
The only reason I can think of for that is how mathematicians will often say the word, but use the Q symbol when writing.

I would also add ZEROISE to the maths list.
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Post by Shaun Hegarty » Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:33 pm

Diprotic - the tendency of an acid to donate two H+ ions (protons)

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[Edited to remove spoilers -- Charlie]

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Post by Paul Howe » Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:15 am

Simon (or mods), please edit your post to remove the spoiler for today's duel.

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Post by Simon Le Fort » Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:24 pm

Oops, very sorry!

Back to those words:

FANMAIL - disallowed. I'll have to delete that thick folder in my Outlook Express.

CALLOUT - I see from the stats that this disappointed lots of players in last week's Daily Duel.

OUTCALL - this being then given by Anne Widdicombe then rubbed salt into the wounds.

DRUID - ok, I can live with that being disallowed, but in the next round dictionary corner (seemingly smarmily!) gave BAFTA.

Surely even if the acronym exists it begins with a capital? Seems very unfair on the druids.

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Post by James Robinson » Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:33 pm

I was toying with ODORIZED in my Speed Demon tourney match yesterday, but thought that must be an American spelling.

Then, straight after it said it was valid. I seem to recall US spellings are invalid, or have i missed something :?:
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Post by Matt Bayfield » Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:36 pm

"Odorize" and "odorise" are both classed as acceptable British spellings. I can see where confusion may arise, as only "odorize" is acceptable in US English.

Lots of "-our" words drop the "u" when sticking suffices like -ise on the end, e.g. vaporise, vaporize, if that's your concern.


And on the subject of words like DRUID* not being valid, I think 6 or 7 apterites (including me), have unsuccesfully tried MINOTAURS*.
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Post by Kirk Bevins » Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:28 pm

Simon Le Fort wrote: DRUID - ok, I can live with that being disallowed, but in the next round dictionary corner (seemingly smarmily!) gave BAFTA.

Surely even if the acronym exists it begins with a capital? Seems very unfair on the druids.
DRUID has a capital letter so is invalid. BAFTA is indeed an acronym (all in capitals) so is also invalid but there is another definition:

bafta (also baft) > noun [mass noun] coarse fabric, typically of cotton.

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Post by Gavin Chipper » Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:47 pm

Matt Bayfield wrote:Lots of "-our" words drop the "u" when sticking suffices like -ise on the end, e.g. vaporise, vaporize, if that's your concern.
Coincidentally, unlike in American, lots of our words drop the "u" when sticking suffices like -ise on the end, e.g. vaporise, vaporize.

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Post by Simon Le Fort » Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:55 pm

DRUID has a capital letter so is invalid. BAFTA is indeed an acronym (all in capitals) so is also invalid but there is another definition:

bafta (also baft) > noun [mass noun] coarse fabric, typically of cotton.
Many thanks Kirk.

Paganism was allowed the other day, so I guess there's a fine line between Pagans and druids.

It's great to have an area like this where Sour Grapes can turn sweet.

I guess it'll be impossible to be proved right on this thread, but the catharsis does help a lot.

PS How on earth did you get rainswept! WP.

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Post by Charlie Reams » Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:17 pm

Simon Le Fort wrote: PS How on earth did you get rainswept! WP.
PAINTERS+W.

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Post by Jon Corby » Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:25 pm

Charlie Reams wrote:
Simon Le Fort wrote: PS How on earth did you get rainswept! WP.
PAINTERS+W.
PENIS + WART.

I just remember at as one of those awesome conundrums that you come across, where it's a common enough word (i.e. in nearly everybody's vocabulary) but hardly anyone solves it. PURESHORE is another. (I solved neither the first time I came across them btw)

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Post by Kirk Bevins » Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:20 pm

Jon Corby wrote: PENIS + WART.

I just remember at as one of those awesome conundrums that you come across, where it's a common enough word (i.e. in nearly everybody's vocabulary) but hardly anyone solves it. PURESHORE is another. (I solved neither the first time I came across them btw)
I love those kind of conundrums - like PASTURERS (scramble).

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Post by Simon Le Fort » Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:55 pm

I tried VIAGRA today but it didn't have the desired effect.

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Post by Marc Meakin » Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:58 pm

Simon Le Fort wrote:I tried VIAGRA today but it didn't have the desired effect.
Last time I took one it got stuck in my throat and I got a stiff neck.
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Post by Jon O'Neill » Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:10 pm

Marc Meakin wrote:
Simon Le Fort wrote:I tried VIAGRA today but it didn't have the desired effect.
Last time I took one it got stuck in my throat and I got a stiff neck.
Yawn.

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Post by Simon Le Fort » Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:23 am

EMACIATE.

I can't even see that it's borderline.

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Post by Phil Reynolds » Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:42 am

Simon Le Fort wrote:EMACIATE.

I can't even see that it's borderline.
When was the last time you used it in a sentence?

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