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Phil Collinge
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:48 pm |
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Jimmy Gough wrote: I think he trying to say they love number attacks. I'm aware of what he's saying and I'm also aware of what he's insinuating.
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JackHurst
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:49 pm |
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Ben Hunter wrote: Douglas Wilson wrote: Who's Supee? You know. Supee. Super Super Supee?
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Douglas Wilson
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do it Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 1:25 am |
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To clarify I was not implying that Supee is Phil's alter ego, I knew that she was a real person but referred to her as 'they' as I was unsure of her gender and didn't want to cause offence.
I realise that it was an inappropriate thread to ask the question and for which I apologise.
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Kai Laddiman
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do it Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:24 am |
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Dammit, Supee is Phil's partner!
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Paul Howe
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do it Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 2:33 pm |
Joined: Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:25 pm Posts: 1020
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I'm quite impressed at the direction this thread's taken without any input from Jason Larsen.
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Jon Corby
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do it Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:40 am |
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Paul Howe wrote: I'm quite impressed at the direction this thread's taken without any input from Jason Larsen. Indeed, it's taken quite a Supee twist.
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Lloyd Pettet
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 2:58 pm |
Joined: Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:26 pm Posts: 28
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Charlie Reams
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:06 pm |
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Lloyd Pettet wrote: Just a query, I know I don't really post often but the player andrew clouston has been pretty dodgy... http://www.apterous.org/searchuser.php?q=andrew+clouston&sensible=1 he had registered 6 times (unless there are 6 seperate Andrew Cloustons). In junior recently he had gone from http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=71410 to http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=130618, only gets beaten by declaring invalid words or on the conundrum, he never declares a lesser valid word, and now has supplemented everything with a max duel. Safe? Yes, he's clearly been cheating. He's been issued a warning and will be banned if this continues. I have to admit that I've been a bit slack with monitoring the Cheatomatic lately because it seems like people had moved on from such blatant dishonesty, but I guess there's always one.
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Kirk Bevins
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do it Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:01 pm |
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Pete Das is our latest cheat. Can he please be kicked? (I have a game unfinished too so if you could remove that too --- not sure how long I have to wait until it disappears).
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Marc Meakin
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do it Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:19 pm |
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Seems like the worlds worst cheater, seeing as he has a played 6 lost 6 record.
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Gavin Chipper
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do it Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:35 pm |
Joined: Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:37 pm Posts: 2582
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I think Apterous Rex cheats.
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Derek Hazell
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do it Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:16 pm |
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Marc Meakin wrote: Seems like the worlds worst cheater, seeing as he has a played 6 lost 6 record. See Derek's earlier post.
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Simon Le Fort
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:35 pm |
Joined: Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:29 pm Posts: 41
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I see passing mention earlier in this thread to opponents stopping the game when behind.
And I see also comments how we should just leave cheats to disappear as they get no fun out of it.
It's all a bit difficult to be 100% sure on-line and given the fact that games do crash. But the norm is for both players to exit and return and continue.
My problem is that I have lost plenty of games and always stood my ground and seen it out to the bitter end even when hopelessly far behind, or even when being called away by family to do something else. Finishing the game has always been a priority. So it has especially hurt on the various occasions I have been leading and my opponent has "disappeared."
One individual has twice been trailing and the games have stayed there for a week and then vanished. I have noticed him playing others but somehow the game doesn't get proposed to continue.
Tonight I was 24-0 against a relative newcomer and he left the room and never came back. This time I took a screenshot.
I don't agree with naming and shaming publicly, for various reasons, prominent amongst which is the fact I could be misinterpreting things. However, the chat is often a good sign of the tone of the game.
I enjoy the game but I also enjoy the ratings system and would love to climb out of the 800s. With these matches secured as victories - or running away from inevitable beatings - I'd be in the 900s.
Has anyone got any advice for me?
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Eoin Monaghan
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do it Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:41 pm |
Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:33 pm Posts: 876 Location: Norn Iron
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81-64 up vs Martin Smith after 12 rounds and he leaves. 
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JimBentley
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:47 pm |
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Simon Le Fort wrote: I enjoy the game but I also enjoy the ratings system and would love to climb out of the 800s. With these matches secured as victories - or running away from inevitable beatings - I'd be in the 900s.
Has anyone got any advice for me? Not a great deal you can do, Simon. I can only really suggest two courses of action: 1. Remember their names and don't play them again or 2. Remember their names and don't play them again, then track them down by tracing their IP address and hacking into their ISP's records to get their real name and address, then go round and burn their house down. FIRE CLEANSES ALL.
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Charlie Reams
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:57 pm |
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Simon Le Fort wrote: I enjoy the game but I also enjoy the ratings system and would love to climb out of the 800s. With these matches secured as victories - or running away from inevitable beatings - I'd be in the 900s. At some point I will add some kind of "adjudication" feature. But it's worth mentioning that the majority of players who do this kind of thing have not played the 11 games necessary for an official rating, and therefore the difference that the result would have made to your rating is minimal.
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Kirk Bevins
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do it Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:58 pm |
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Personally I'd name and shame them. They can always come here and apologise, claiming they got disconnected or some tripe.
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Simon Le Fort
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:01 pm |
Joined: Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:29 pm Posts: 41
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Thanks for your fast answers, all three. At least I am clearer on my options now.
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Eoin Monaghan
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do it Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:17 pm |
Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:33 pm Posts: 876 Location: Norn Iron
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Martin Smith left after he was 81-64 down after 12 rounds against me.
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Marc Meakin
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:30 pm |
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JimBentley wrote: Simon Le Fort wrote: I enjoy the game but I also enjoy the ratings system and would love to climb out of the 800s. With these matches secured as victories - or running away from inevitable beatings - I'd be in the 900s.
Has anyone got any advice for me? Not a great deal you can do, Simon. I can only really suggest two courses of action: 1. Remember their names and don't play them again or 2. Remember their names and don't play them again, then track them down by tracing their IP address and hacking into their ISP's records to get their real name and address, then go round and burn their house down. FIRE CLEANSES ALL. A-lol 
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Ben Hunter
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:16 am |
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JimBentley wrote: then go round and burn their house down. FIRE CLEANSES ALL. PIssing myself
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Matt Morrison
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do it Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:26 am |
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Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:27 pm Posts: 3105 Location: Exeter
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I bet you hypocrites would still give Thierry Henry a game if he logged on.
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peter lee
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do it Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:15 pm |
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Adidas have got the contract from FIFA to make the new ball for the World Cup Finals. Thierry (the Cheating P---k) Henry, said he can't wait to get his hands on it. !!
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Marc Meakin
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do it Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:41 pm |
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Matt Morrison wrote: I bet you hypocrites would still give Thierry Henry a game if he logged on. He might be good at Touchdown.
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Philip Jarvis
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:53 am |
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Ben Hunter wrote: JimBentley wrote: then go round and burn their house down. FIRE CLEANSES ALL. PIssing myself Yes but make sure the house is empty first and my colleagues are made aware of this on arrival.
_________________ Quote - RW (Following conundrum): “You wanted to go out in style. You are going out in style because that’s a beast and you got it!!”
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Philip Jarvis
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do it Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:56 am |
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Eoin Monaghan wrote: Martin Smith left after he was 81-64 down after 12 rounds against me. He recently did the same after 13 rounds against me. I can't recall how many points I was ahead, but I did shout an expletive about him in Aptochat before eventually leaving.
_________________ Quote - RW (Following conundrum): “You wanted to go out in style. You are going out in style because that’s a beast and you got it!!”
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Kai Laddiman
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:53 pm |
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Philip Jarvis wrote: Ben Hunter wrote: JimBentley wrote: then go round and burn their house down. FIRE CLEANSES ALL. PIssing myself Yes but make sure the house is empty first and my colleagues are made aware of this on arrival. Why would you need to know if Ben is peeing uncontrollably?
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Philip Jarvis
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:15 am |
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Kai Laddiman wrote: Why would you need to know if Ben is peeing uncontrollably? In case a supplementary water supply is required.
_________________ Quote - RW (Following conundrum): “You wanted to go out in style. You are going out in style because that’s a beast and you got it!!”
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John Gillies
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do it Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:46 pm |
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Hi,
I was just playing Lancelot Wyse and was well up. He said "this is killing me" and promptly left the room. I'm getting really sick of people doing this. How does he keep getting away with this?
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Eoin Monaghan
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do it Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:26 pm |
Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:33 pm Posts: 876 Location: Norn Iron
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John Gillies wrote: Hi,
I was just playing Lancelot Wyse and was well up. He said "this is killing me" and promptly left the room. I'm getting really sick of people doing this. How does he keep getting away with this? You think that's bad? Richard Brittain challenged me to a conundrum attack. I go 100-20 up after 16 rounds and what does he say: Sorry, I never thought when I challenged you, I do hate conundrum attacks then he said cheers and just left. And he won a series? Talk about bad sportsmanship. He can GANDISEEG his way home cos I'm never playing him again the cheater. 
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Jon Corby
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do it Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:43 pm |
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Eoin Monaghan wrote: John Gillies wrote: Hi,
I was just playing Lancelot Wyse and was well up. He said "this is killing me" and promptly left the room. I'm getting really sick of people doing this. How does he keep getting away with this? You think that's bad? Richard Brittain challenged me to a conundrum attack. I go 100-20 up after 16 rounds and what does he say: Sorry, I never thought when I challenged you, I do hate conundrum attacks then he said cheers and just left. And he won a series? Talk about bad sportsmanship. He can GANDISEEG his way home cos I'm never playing him again the cheater.  Were you masturbating? He doesn't like masturbation.
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Simon Le Fort
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:24 pm |
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Although the cheats are a real frustration, one event did make me smile.
I was playing one of the higher rated ladies, and a good hiding she was giving me. In the chat I said words to the effect: "I've got 4 noisy Italians watching over my shoulder, all trying to tell me and each other what to do, hard to concentrate."
Back came the reply: "I hope they're not helping you."
Says I, "Does it look like it at 20-65?"
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Ben Hunter
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:57 pm |
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Simon Le Fort wrote: Although the cheats are a real frustration, one event did make me smile.
I was playing one of the higher rated ladies, and a good hiding she was giving me. In the chat I said words to the effect: "I've got 4 noisy Italians watching over my shoulder, all trying to tell me and each other what to do, hard to concentrate."
Back came the reply: "I hope they're not helping you."
Says I, "Does it look like it at 20-65?" When I play and people watch (which isn't often) they always chirp in with suggestions. It's pretty much the opposite of cheating; it's near impossible to play well when all you can hear are a thousand misspelled or invalid words (each one six letters long or less).
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Gavin Chipper
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do it Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:00 pm |
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Does anyone else get paranoid that other people might think you're cheating when you're doing better than usual?
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Ian Dent
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do it Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:03 pm |
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Are you talking about me?
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Gavin Chipper
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do it Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:47 pm |
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Ian Dent wrote: Are you talking about me? Not specifically you, but that game we had because anyone might view it, but also generally. And I've never maxed the first eight letters before. Sorry if it came across that way.
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Ian Dent
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Post subject: Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do it Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:57 pm |
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Think you missed the joke Gevin, well played though.
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