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Jon Corby

Beer is amazing. Maybe when you try it as a 5 year old or whatever it tastes rank (the same as coffee and other adult drinks), but from 15 or so onwards (by which I mean 18 if my dad reads this), no way. It's just amazing. I'm putting some furniture together later, and I'm holding off my Friday nigh...

Jon Corby

Great show today, lovely atmosphere to the game. High standard too, obviously (though Jen wasn't as good as Dylan yesterday).

Is there another way to make the 302 other than the standard 4L way? George's little smirk as 302 came out made me lol. Probably not what he was hoping for though!

Jon Corby

Gavin Chipper wrote:
JimBentley wrote:Is this open to pure guesswork? If it is, my guess is 6,031,769.
Hmm. I'm saying 6,031,770.

Well done Gev, you were closer.

Jon Corby

Graeme Cole wrote:
Gavin Chipper wrote:How many possible contestants are there?
The population of the world is 7 billion, so 6,999,999,999 unless you somehow persuade Matt Bayfield to apply.

Jon Corby

Great stuff guys (he says, abandoning the brute-forcer he was in the middle of writing).

So there are fewer letters games than numbers games. WHAT A DAY THIS HAS BEEN.

Jon Corby

http://www.c4countdown.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9519&p=140482#p140469 is probably our best shot at a decent consonant distribution. That's 1 JKQXYZ, 2 BFHVW, 3 C, 4 GMP, 5 L and 6+ DNRST. As for vowels, it doesn't matter as there's going to be at least 5 of each, so Rob's numbers are fine....

Jon Corby

The other thing of course is that even with the correct distribution of letters, I believe in reality it's still not a completely random selection because somebody sifts through to make sure there aren't too many of the same letter in a row and that sort of thing. But we should ignore that for this ...

Jon Corby

A bit of reading around leads me to learning about binomial(n+k-1,k) of choosing (with replacement) k objects from n. So 3 vowels is binomial(7,3) * binomial(26,6) = 8058050 4 vowels is binomial(8,4) * binomial(25,5) = 3719100 5 vowels is binomial(9,5) * binomial(24,4) = 1338876 which added together...

Jon Corby

Your answer seems hideously inaccurate. You're assuming that there are 9! repetitions for each selection, but that only applies when all the letters are different. Even with a selection of 3 letters from an alphabet of 3 your calculation gives only 45% of the true answer! With bigger figures that wi...

Jon Corby

Can't be bothered to do a proper calculation, but randomly picking 9 letters and dividing by 9! to remove duplicate selections (ignoring duplicate letters within selections) gives just over 15,000,000. Refining this to pick valid numbers of consonants and vowels brings it down to around 3,500,000. ...

Jon Corby

80 seems a bit high Jim. Would you like some change?

Jon Corby

Obviously based on Peter's thread about numbers... 11,900,000-odd numbers games is a lot. How many letters games are there? More? Or less? What's your hunch? My guess is less. Or actually maybe more, thinking about all the duplicated letters in the piles. And who's going to work it out...? (state yo...

Jon Corby

Reports on twitter that it was destroyed by a floating gold David Cameron have yet to be confirmed though.

Jon Corby

Also, who is this (on the left) from the solver page that Jim linked to: http://www.crosswordtools.com/images/inner_top5_img.jpg ? I think she was called something like Ariane or something, she was a stand-up comic and a staunch atheist. She was lovely. I can't remember any more than that but Chris...

Jon Corby

That doesn't give me what I'm after at all. I want a definitive list for ALL numbers games. They've done a sample using random games. And even then they've just listed how many were solvable, how many were one away. I want EVERYTHING. Hey, I never said there would be anything of value there, I thin...

Jon Corby

Matt Morrison wrote:
Jon Corby wrote:
Matt Morrison wrote:the imagery had a graphic of a person freefalling
What is it then ffs?
The person has been pushed rather than jumped.

We already saw him "make" "somebody" "shoot" Stephen Fry. So what's the difference?

Jon Corby

From RRs reactions to the crew sometimes it looks like she is probably told easy ones are possible sometimes! My hunch is that she isn't told until after the 30 seconds. My thought process changes a lot if I have the luxury of aiming solely for the target rather than trying to get as near-as-possib...

Jon Corby

Gavin Chipper wrote:
Jon Corby wrote:What is it then ffs?
Murder, you cunt. Read the Radio Times like Phil Reynolds does and you'd know.

So how is that different to getting somebody to murder Stephen Fry?

Jon Corby

Matt Morrison wrote:
Phil Reynolds wrote:
Matt Morrison wrote:it's "pushed over the edge" or something, "driving a normal man to do the unthinkable"

guessing it is suicide
Wrong.
unnecessarily harsh. I could have googled

What is it then ffs?

Jon Corby

Gavin Chipper wrote:
Phil Reynolds wrote:
Matt Morrison wrote:it's "pushed over the edge" or something, "driving a normal man to do the unthinkable"

guessing it is suicide
Wrong.
It's murder.

He's already done that one. It's got to be worse. Fudging a numbers round? Hansfording?

Jon Corby

Oh yeah, I forgot about Giles.

Jon Corby

Gavin Chipper wrote:By the way, while I liked the crystal maze, the end bit was a complete anti-climax. It was shit.

It was great for play-along-at-home-ability. I used to fucking ace it with the gold ones every time.

Jon Corby

I think there's a new Derren Brown thing next week. I'm calling it now - stooge. Yeah, rewound the ads in Countdown to see that. I reckon he was behind the Paris atrocities, it just got a little bit out of hand. I'd refine "stooge" though to "massive Derren fan knowingly playing alon...

Jon Corby

Great performance by Dylan today, I would have to put him top of the pile based on what we've seen so far this week. Tracey got unlucky with a couple of obscure spellings, but I don't think there was any beating Dylan either way.

Jon Corby

Didn't William Tungsten-Paedo do it? It's on another hard drive, but I've definitely got emails from him from about 2002 where we were discussing (arguing) whether 100 was a legitimate target if there was a 100 in the selection, something like that. If his website's still online, I'd look there fir...

Jon Corby

I'm actually going to do this ^ myself. I'll publish my results. Then numbers games can be reduced to a simple memory exercise. Ocelots seem nice despite shin camera, and all that. Fuck. Even with a well optimized solver this is gonna take a LOOONG time to accumulate all the data. Somebody else mus...

Jon Corby

I'm actually going to do this ^ myself. I'll publish my results. Then numbers games can be reduced to a simple memory exercise. Ocelots seem nice despite shin camera, and all that. Fuck. Even with a well optimized solver this is gonna take a LOOONG time to accumulate all the data. Somebody else mus...

Jon Corby

I'm actually going to do this ^ myself. I'll publish my results. Then numbers games can be reduced to a simple memory exercise. Ocelots seem nice despite shin camera, and all that.

Jon Corby

Can we now have a breakdown of those 11,905,457 games please? I'd like to know how many games are possible to solve, how many 1 away is the best, 2 away, and so on. Would probably be neat to split this out by selection type as well. Thanks in advance, will check back in ten minutes. Actually, I'd al...

Jon Corby

Fred Mumford wrote:
Thomas Carey wrote:Fuck's sake Fred
Ah yes, the Bernard Cribbins follow up single that got banned.

Jon Corby

Gavin Chipper wrote:INTERGROW is still a pretty obscure conundrum even if it looks more like a word than the one the other day.

Yeah, but I don't mind obscure conundrums if you can still have a pretty good punt at them even if you're not necessarily familiar with the word. SHOTCRETE was just bollocks.

Jon Corby

There's four per episode.

Jon Corby

Zero? Oh come on, really?

Jon Corby

Nick fucked up the DISCARDS teatime teaser today as well, he read the scramble as GRASS instead of CRASS. WHERE WAS HIS FUCKING ANGEL THEN, EH?

Jon Corby

When she started, I thought "angels? fuck off Gloria you silly old fool". But then I listened to the story, and I can't think of another explanation. Can YOU? Obviously I didn't listen. Can you summarise? Gloria believes in angels. She was driving in France to their holiday home with a fu...

Jon Corby

Oh yeah, and great game too. Well done Andy! (Hard luck David, but like Gev said, the misdeclaration made no difference. Well, unless it was playing horribly on your mind when you should have been solving the conundrum.)

Jon Corby

When she started, I thought "angels? fuck off Gloria you silly old fool".

But then I listened to the story, and I can't think of another explanation. Can YOU?

Jon Corby

Says the Geordie Shore/Hollyoaks guy...

Jon Corby

Zarte Siempre wrote:
Jon Corby wrote:
Zarte Siempre wrote:I'd be 21 - cba breaking it down.
Please do.
Urgh, you're a twat.

2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1, 2, 1, 0, 2, 2, 1, 0, 0, 0

This isn't the fucking puzzle section.

Jon Corby

Today's matchup interestingly sees 2 players who were actually defeated by yesterday's competitors in their respective series finals. We have Series 68 runner-up Andy Platt (who lost to Giles in the final) against Series 67 semi-finalist David Barnard (who lost to Heather in the semi-final). Should...

Jon Corby

Zarte Siempre wrote:I'd be 21 - cba breaking it down.

Please do.

Jon Corby

2: Gemma Collins, Darren Day, Daniella Westbrook, David Gest, Nancy Dell'Olio, Christopher Maloney, Angie Bowie, John Partridge
1: Kristina Rihanoff

= 17. Out of the park.

Jon Corby

Gavin Chipper wrote:
JimBentley wrote:Why hasn't Ryan's beard got any comments yet? THE WORLD HAS GONE MAD!
Seen it before. Go to CO events.

Pretty disrespectful to call Michelle "it".

Jon Corby

Whatever, you don't knock up a 37m tall gold statue of Mao in less than three months - believe me, I've tried. Where does three months come from? Three months since Jim started this thread. For them to have stolen his idea, as accused, they would have had three months. It's not rocket sculpture, ma...

Jon Corby

Whatever, you don't knock up a 37m tall gold statue of Mao in less than three months - believe me, I've tried.

Besides, we all know that you were blatantly just posturing for some kind of "eye" joke, you massive racist.

Jon Corby

Entrepreneurs and villagers in Henan’s Tongxu county reportedly began construction on their Mao tribute in March last year

Jon Corby

Here you go pal, post all your shit in here rather than tagging them onto the end of other random threads.

How have you been? Still seeing your bit of fluff? What happened with that whole bike/court case thing?

Jon Corby

Good game. Glen seemed to gamble way too early though (unless he didn't have a 6 in that round)?

Dat last numbers though

Jon Corby

Jon Corby

Matt Morrison wrote:CHOSERTET

No.

Matt Morrison wrote:HORSETECT

No.

Matt Morrison wrote:CTTRHEEOS

No.

Matt Morrison wrote:CHESTROTE

No.

Matt Morrison wrote:TCHORESET

No.

Matt Morrison wrote:HOTSCREET

No.

Jon Corby

wtf has that got to do with Colin? my guesses are CROSHETTE COSHETTER THEOCREST something. Nope, keep trying. I was going to say no but instead I think we should play this out for months until I get it (or get spoilered). TECHESORT SORCTHETE STETHOREC TESTECHOR No, no, no and no. Keep trying.

Jon Corby

Matt Morrison wrote:wtf has that got to do with Colin?

my guesses are CROSHETTE COSHETTER THEOCREST something.

Nope, keep trying.

Jon Corby

Matt Morrison wrote:what was the con

SHOTCRETE.

See if you can get it.

Jon Corby

Congratulations Jonathan and commiserations Matthew, great final to round off a great set of finals to round off a great series. Agree with those saying the conundrum was ridiculous though. The fuck is the point of a word nobody has heard of? It'd be hard not to sit there and be pissed off at that i...

Jon Corby

Zarte Siempre wrote:
Jon Corby wrote:I care.
You'd be a bad person either way.

I don't care.

Jon Corby

I care.

Jon Corby

Really looking forward to this. Based on the heats I would have said Jonathan would be clear favourite, but Matthew has really upped his game in the knockouts, avenging his defeat against John Hardie* on the way. Should be a good game. *Remember he lost to him but was allowed back on after Corby mo...

Jon Corby

James Robinson wrote:I wonder how many predicted that this would be the final when the series started back in mid-June.....

Probably none, chiefly because nobody had the foggiest what contestants would be taking part in the series?

Jon Corby

Zarte Siempre wrote:Hah, I should point out, I wasn't accusing Thomas of anything. I was more offering a general route to avoid your bitching

You were obviously doubting Thomas.

Jon Corby

Well at least we all now know that if we want to cheat on TV, we just have to look conflicted, rather than like we're still looking, and then Corby won't go on a rant. Well, Thomas is here so he can clear this up. What were you doing? Searching for an eight, or weighing up whether to risk one you a...

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