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- Wed Feb 17, 2016 3:41 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Wednesday 17th February
- Replies: 11
- Views: 3254
Re: Spoilers for Wednesday 17th February
Round 10- PIANOLA
- Wed Feb 17, 2016 2:54 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Wednesday 17th February
- Replies: 11
- Views: 3254
Spoilers for Wednesday 17th February
Dave Armstrong won his second game yesterday, can he overcome the challenge of Natalie Helme today and set up a meeting with Paul Erdunast tomorrow? Will another apterite make a surprise appearance in the audience?
Find out with Robbo later
Find out with Robbo later
- Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:18 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers For Monday February 15th 2016
- Replies: 7
- Views: 2543
Re: Spoilers For Monday February 15th 2016
It is. He confirmed on apto last weekJohnny Canuck wrote:There's a recently minted Apterite named Dave Armstrong; anyone know if this was him?
- Thu Feb 11, 2016 3:42 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Thursday 11 February 2016 (Series 74 Prelim 14)
- Replies: 8
- Views: 2449
Re: Spoilers for Thursday 11 February 2016 (Series 74 Prelim 14)
DOMINATE+L = MALDONITE in round 10
- Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:09 am
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: Recording Times what do ya think
- Replies: 9
- Views: 3375
Re: Recording Times what do ya think
Just realised that the first episode in Dan Walker's run in DC is the day after he makes his official debut as the new presenter of Breakfast. 1) Was this planned? 2) Will Walker have known about this before this and so be introduced as the new Breakfast presenter, and so the audience would be sworn...
- Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:45 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Tuesday 9th February 2016
- Replies: 19
- Views: 3554
Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 9th February
I thought he said OUTRANGJohnny Canuck wrote:OUTSANG is a valid word; therefore, the game should have been 99-50, not 92-56. Not that anyone is going to care.
- Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:53 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Tuesday 9th February 2016
- Replies: 19
- Views: 3554
Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 9th February
not the greatest scramble for the conundrum....
- Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:08 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Tuesday 9th February 2016
- Replies: 19
- Views: 3554
Spoilers for Tuesday 9th February 2016
David Edgar's back again, can he get a 4th win?
- Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:19 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Tuesday 2nd February 2016 (Series 74 Prelim 7)
- Replies: 7
- Views: 2861
Spoilers for Tuesday 2nd February 2016 (Series 74 Prelim 7)
Tim Down is on the verge of becoming the first Octochamp of 2016 today. Of course, he's not the first Octochamp to have appeared on Countdown in 2016, but the first new one.
Join whoever is recapping on Tuesday's later for the review
Join whoever is recapping on Tuesday's later for the review
- Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:41 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Current recaps
- Topic: Tuesday 26 January 2016 (Series 74, Prelim 2)
- Replies: 13
- Views: 4713
Re: Tuesday 26 January 2016 (Series 74, Prelim 2)
Sorry, link didn't copy. Was one of Eileen Taylor's octorun games
- Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:38 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Current recaps
- Topic: Tuesday 26 January 2016 (Series 74, Prelim 2)
- Replies: 13
- Views: 4713
Re: Tuesday 26 January 2016 (Series 74, Prelim 2)
Round 1: S H N E U O W M I Tim: SHOWMEN (7) Margaret: WHINES (6) DC: INHUMES (7) WINSOME (7) OT: HEINOUS (7) MOHSINE (7) Score: 7–0 (max 7) When I watched this show, the first thing I saw in this round was legendary Nigerian footballer E SHOWUNMI . Anyone remember any other sports stars' names maki...
- Thu Jan 28, 2016 3:59 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Thursday 28 January 2016 (Series 74 Prelim 4)
- Replies: 9
- Views: 3156
Re: Spoilers for Thursday 28 January 2016 (Series 74 Prelim 4)
Funny that Anthony Endsor solved it from the audience conisdering the first four lettersof the scramble were an anagram of MOLE.....Johnny Canuck wrote:Feed cut out for no reason during conundrum! What was the scramble? I see that it was unsolved...
- Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:43 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: C4C/apto/Countdown Dreams
- Replies: 759
- Views: 410241
Re: C4C/apto/Countdown Dreams
Brief one last night of a marching band playing When I'm Sixty Four outside the COLIN Hangover venue. The band included Jen playing trumpet and Graeme on the drums....
- Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:36 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: Who would be the biggest deaths?
- Replies: 236
- Views: 51303
Re: Who would be the biggest deaths?
That's true, and there's you of course, and Zef. Let's just hope no-one dies! Let's not forget you. I think you've been posting longer than me! Are we including your pseudonyms? (joking) Anyway, all this death talk's getting me paranoid. Tom Baker was trending on Twitter yesterday and I was thinkin...
- Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:30 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: CoC Quarter-Final 3 Spoilers For Monday January 18th 2016
- Replies: 53
- Views: 9540
Re: CoC Quarter-Final 3 Spoilers For Monday January 18th 2016
You're making me hungry :( Maybe we should get some Domino's pizzas and take them on the train to COLIN. We could do that. Is there a Domino's nearby? Do we normally eat in the pub? There's one that delivers to O'Neills. I think this is the best plan ever. THIS would be better http://corporate.domi...
- Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:33 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: CoC Quarter-Final 2 Spoilers For Friday January 15th 2016
- Replies: 30
- Views: 11234
Re: CoC Quarter-Final 2 Spoilers For Friday January 15th 2016
During the recordings of CoC, Dylan seemed to stay remarkably focused on the game and to detach himself from the amateur dramatics going on in the green room. This is a very accurate comment. On the morning of the final day of the recording, when Dylan came into the green room, he was incredibly fo...
- Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:38 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: CoC Quarter-Final 3 Spoilers For Monday January 18th 2016
- Replies: 53
- Views: 9540
Re: CoC Quarter-Final 3 Spoilers For Monday January 18th 2016
Said it to you both in the studio but very well played both of you. Wd Jen and unlucky Callum but I'm disappointed that Nick's reaction to SRSLY was edited. It was SRSLY funny.
Anyone else want a special as a deciding match? But then again I just like watching specials.
Anyone else want a special as a deciding match? But then again I just like watching specials.
- Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:34 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: COLIN XII- Countdown in Lincoln, 30-31 January 2016
- Replies: 132
- Views: 42111
Re: COLIN XII- Countdown in Lincoln, 30-31 January 2016
Have said as well I'm already bringing a game as well, but just a suggestion for Ben. Can you make a list of whos bringing them either here on on the fb page, Just for clarification.
- Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:41 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: Who would be the biggest deaths?
- Replies: 236
- Views: 51303
Re: Who would be the biggest deaths?
All this talk of dead celebrities reminds me of Celebrity Death Pool . Anyone fancy playing for the year ahead? Lets say we have till the end of this month to pick our list (I propose 10 rather then 20) of the celebrities we think will die by Jan 31st next year. Just do it on here rather than that ...
- Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:38 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: How many UK cities have you been to?
- Replies: 43
- Views: 16467
Re: How many UK cities have you been to?
England: Bath, Birmingham, Bradford, Cambridge, Carlisle*, Chester, Chichester, Coventry, Derby, Durham, Hull, Leeds, Leicester, Lincoln, Liverpool, London, Manchester, Newcastle, Nottingham, Oxford, Peterborough, Ripon, Salford, Salisbury, Sheffield, St Albans, Stoke-on-Trent, Wakefield, Winchester...
- Sat Jan 16, 2016 12:24 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: C4C/apto/Countdown Dreams
- Replies: 759
- Views: 410241
Re: C4C/apto/Countdown Dreams
Last night's saw me on a road trip with Zarte and AP. Did not recognise where at all but the roads were pretty deserted.
- Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:54 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: CoC Quarter-Final 2 Spoilers For Friday January 15th 2016
- Replies: 30
- Views: 11234
Re: CoC Quarter-Final 2 Spoilers For Friday January 15th 2016
What a crap game! Couldn't they get decent players for a Champions of Champions????
Just kidding guys, I had heard a lot about this one and it didn't disappoint. Fantastic performances from both Dylan and Andy and one to talk about for years to come
Just kidding guys, I had heard a lot about this one and it didn't disappoint. Fantastic performances from both Dylan and Andy and one to talk about for years to come
- Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:33 am
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: How many countries have you been to?
- Replies: 172
- Views: 84184
Re: How many countries have you been to?
beers from 123 countries On a related note, how many of the 197 countries produce beer? They can't all do as it's illegal in some of them. 123 will look even more impressive if it's only out of 160 odd (or whatever). Officially 13 countries ban alcohol, as well as parts of India and the UAE. That b...
- Wed Jan 13, 2016 11:00 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: How many countries have you been to?
- Replies: 172
- Views: 84184
Re: How many countries have you been to?
beers from 123 countries
- Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:37 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: How many countries have you been to?
- Replies: 172
- Views: 84184
Re: How many countries have you been to?
123 countries. 124th to be consumed once the pain killers are no-longer neededMatt Morrison wrote:Try me. (Might start a thread.)James Laverty wrote:If we were doing this on beer, I would whip your asses
- Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:04 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: How many countries have you been to?
- Replies: 172
- Views: 84184
Re: How many countries have you been to?
UK (Eng, Sco, Wal and Nir), France, Belgium, Netherlands, Austria, Switzerland, Germany, Spain, Italy, Greece, Turkey, USA, Malta and Vatican City (dubious if this is counted). Travelled through Luxembourg and Albania but never left the coach either time. If we were doing this on beer, I would whip ...
- Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:04 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: Co:Leeds 2016 - 30th April
- Replies: 13
- Views: 8400
Re: Co:Leeds 2016 - 30th April
Innis and I have booked our accommodation at the Vicar Lane Travelodge - where's everyone else at? IF I'm going it will be the Ibis Budget, just opposite the bus station. But need to wait for confirmation of dates of other arrangements first. On the plus side I think the Ibis budget allows upto 4 p...
- Sat Jan 02, 2016 4:26 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: C4C/apto/Countdown Dreams
- Replies: 759
- Views: 410241
Re: C4C/apto/Countdown Dreams
So last night I dreamt I was in a general knowledge quiz similar to the Weakest Link. We were all stood in a circle around our host, Mr. Siempre, who explains that instead of the walk of shame, when we are voted off we will be dropped into a massive pool of gunge, similar to Get Your Own Back. The q...
- Sat Jan 02, 2016 4:05 pm
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: More work for the Countdown team
- Replies: 5
- Views: 3197
Re: More work for the Countdown team
Still have to put up with it for another year though. Personally I hope with more episodes needed it means we might get some more specials!
- Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:09 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: C4C/apto/Countdown Dreams
- Replies: 759
- Views: 410241
Re: C4C/apto/Countdown Dreams
Another one last night..... why do you people feel the need to worm your ways into my dreams so often! I am in some underground casino, location unknown, when I am suddenly ambushed by Rhys Benjamin who starts shouting at me because I was apparantly meant to represent the UK in Eurovision that night...
- Sun Dec 20, 2015 2:07 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: C4C/apto/Countdown Dreams
- Replies: 759
- Views: 410241
Re: C4C/apto/Countdown Dreams
Last night's entertainment saw me on a nightout and involved Dylan tripping on the stairs, throwing his jagerbomb onto Zarte in the process. This moved on to me singing Don't Stop Me Now rather flamboyantly in the club, accidentally smacking someone in the face, which turns out to be George (sorry m...
- Fri Dec 18, 2015 12:16 pm
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: Countdowners in the news
- Replies: 243
- Views: 120215
Re: Countdowners in the news
It's the Daily Mail, what did you expect?Thomas Carey wrote:Pisses me off that they have to mention he's a countdown champ every few paragraphs, but otherwise I'm glad.
- Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:24 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: COLIN XII- Countdown in Lincoln, 30-31 January 2016
- Replies: 132
- Views: 42111
Re: COLIN XII- Countdown in Lincoln, 30-31 January 2016
I can bring a board game along as well, it's missing the game board but that shouldn't be too much of a problem. I can sort out the letters distribution if people want a decent set
- Thu Dec 10, 2015 3:48 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: C4C/apto/Countdown Dreams
- Replies: 759
- Views: 410241
Re: C4C/apto/Countdown Dreams
Last night I had a dream that Tracey Mills threatened to kill me because I talked her 12 year old daughter out of an arranged marraige to Andy Platt, losing her £500k. I only realised this was a dream after I woke up and remembered that Tracey doesn't have a daughter
- Thu Dec 10, 2015 3:41 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Thursday 10th December 2015
- Replies: 2
- Views: 1287
Spoilers for Thursday 10th December 2015
We are all eagerly awaiting the finals, but we have a few more heats to get through first.
Join an apterite for the recap later
Join an apterite for the recap later
- Fri Dec 04, 2015 3:36 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Friday 4th December 2015
- Replies: 7
- Views: 2375
Spoilers for Friday 4th December 2015
Chris is back again, can he continue winning to snatch the last finals spot from under Matty Artell's nose?
Join Anthony for a recap later
Join Anthony for a recap later
- Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:25 pm
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: If Apterites had IT Crowd style nicknames....
- Replies: 2
- Views: 1633
If Apterites had IT Crowd style nicknames....
Basically I'm bored, and recently binged watched the IT Crowd.....
As the title says, If 8+ existed like in The IT Crowd episode "The Final Countdown", what would your nickname be?
Go!
As the title says, If 8+ existed like in The IT Crowd episode "The Final Countdown", what would your nickname be?
Go!
- Sat Nov 21, 2015 3:53 pm
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: Ask Graeme?
- Replies: 1740
- Views: 699020
Re: Ask Graeme?
With CoC upcoming, will any of the contestants become the first to have played all three formats on TV?
- Fri Nov 20, 2015 7:24 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers For Friday November 20th 2015
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1697
Re: Spoilers For Friday November 20th 2015
I thought her name was Margaret?
- Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:56 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Wednesday 18th November 2015
- Replies: 20
- Views: 7613
Spoilers for Wednesday 18th November 2015
It's possibly coronation day for Matthew Tassier as he looks to confirm his octochamp status. He needs to score 122 to leapfrog John Hardie in the seedings to move up to Number 4 in the Series 73 table. Will Matthew become an octochamp? Will he fall at the last to join the plethora of 7 times winner...
- Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:03 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: CO:parkrun Recaps
- Replies: 592
- Views: 300090
Re: CO:parkrun Recaps
http://www.parkrun.org.uk/rushcliffe/re ... ystememail
Official PB is on there, think I was faster yesterday but because I'm an idiot I forgot my barcode
Official PB is on there, think I was faster yesterday but because I'm an idiot I forgot my barcode
- Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:06 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: CO:parkrun Recaps
- Replies: 592
- Views: 300090
Re: CO:parkrun Recaps
How long does it take an unfit, fat bloke to go 5km in a wheelchair? Asking for a friend. The parkrun I sometimes go to (and by sometimes I mean once since I am normally to lazy to get up that early on a Saturday) has a few people in wheelchairs and even a few people pushing prams so I can see if I...
- Thu Nov 12, 2015 6:54 pm
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: Countdowners in the news
- Replies: 243
- Views: 120215
- Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:05 am
- Forum: Countdown - Current recaps
- Topic: Friday 6th November 2015 (Series 73, Prelim 88)
- Replies: 2
- Views: 1426
Re: Friday 6th November 2015 (Series 73, Prelim 88)
I'm free next Friday so can stand in for you if needed Anthony
- Fri Nov 06, 2015 3:38 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Friday 6th November 2015
- Replies: 6
- Views: 2443
Spoilers for Friday 6th November 2015
Keith Kan is back for a second game, will this go down as an all time classic. Probably not if the first 9 rounds are anything to go by.
Join Sally-Jane Thomas for the recap or it will be 50 press ups
Join Sally-Jane Thomas for the recap or it will be 50 press ups
- Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:46 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: C4C/apto/Countdown Dreams
- Replies: 759
- Views: 410241
Re: C4C/apto/Countdown Dreams
A short one from last night involved me at a co-event, I didn't recognise the venue but Robbo was hosting, it was around half way through and I was playing Jack Worsley on the front table at first but then the dream merged to later in the day. I was playing Andy Platt at this point but at the back t...
- Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:55 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: C4C/apto/Countdown Dreams
- Replies: 759
- Views: 410241
Re: C4C/apto/Countdown Dreams
Didn't find out who was the mole , i'm hoping it will be a series of dreams
- Sun Oct 18, 2015 4:25 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: C4C/apto/Countdown Dreams
- Replies: 759
- Views: 410241
Re: C4C/apto/Countdown Dreams
Rather weird crossover one last night. I was in my local have a drink with Andy Platt, Dan McColm and weirdly, Anton Du Beke, when the numerous TV's at the bar suddenly go haywire before the giant TV (which can show four channels at once) comes into focus with Zarte showing up on all four screens, c...
- Sun Oct 11, 2015 7:26 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: COHUD 2015 - Countdown in Huddersfield - Saturday 10th October 2015
- Replies: 11
- Views: 6494
Re: COHUD 2015 - Countdown in Huddersfield - Saturday 10th October 2015
Massive thanks again to James and Jeff for another brilliant tourney. Hope to see eberyone again in2016
- Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:09 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Thursday October 8th 2015 (S73 P68)
- Replies: 47
- Views: 14069
Re: Spoilers for Thursday October 8th 2015 (S73 P68)
The Series 73 wiki page is saying that Len Goodman is in DC for only 4 shows so maybe the 5th show of the filming day will be a special. I'm only speculating though.Tony Atkins wrote:We must campaign for a special for James against Adam Curran!
- Thu Oct 01, 2015 5:10 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: What TV programmes have you been watching lately?
- Replies: 772
- Views: 585462
Re: What TV programmes have you been watching lately?
Heroes Reborn has just started (and looks more promising than S3 and 4 of the original show). Orphan Black is rather good and 30 Rock is hilarious. Finally caught Heroes Reborn today. Wasn't too impressed with the first half but thought the second half was much stronger. Let's hope it is indeed bet...
- Sun Sep 27, 2015 6:42 pm
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: Ask Graeme?
- Replies: 1740
- Views: 699020
Re: Ask Graeme?
Which contestant has appeared with the most Dictionary Corner guests?
- Fri Sep 25, 2015 3:05 pm
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: Ask Graeme?
- Replies: 1740
- Views: 699020
Re: Ask Graeme?
If Liam Moloney qualifies for the finals of this series, it will mean that his first and last heat opponents (Judy Bursford and Stephen Briggs respectively) will also make the finals. Are there any previous examples of this happening? Think it happened in series 70 with Neil Green, Sean Fletcher an...
- Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:21 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: People you shouldn't trust
- Replies: 921
- Views: 405704
Re: People you shouldn't trust
People who say horr-nedd viper on Only Connect
- Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:17 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Tuesday September 22nd 2015 (S73 P57)
- Replies: 11
- Views: 3965
Re: Spoilers for Tuesday September 22nd 2015 (S73 P57)
Cracking game chaps. We should get a special between Adam and Ciaran McCarthy as century scoring losers
- Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:11 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers For Thursday 17th September 2015
- Replies: 10
- Views: 3675
Spoilers For Thursday 17th September 2015
Colin White won yesterday, but he has to contend with the challenge of long term apterite Thomas Carey today. Who will come up on top?
Join Tracey for the recap later
Join Tracey for the recap later
- Thu Sep 03, 2015 5:07 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: C4C/apto/Countdown Dreams
- Replies: 759
- Views: 410241
Re: C4C/apto/Countdown Dreams
I won the spotprize. Can't remember who won CoHudd overallGraeme Cole wrote:Cliffhanger... do you mean you won the spot prize or you won CoHudd?James Laverty wrote:Robbo, who on finding out I have confiscated a large bottle of vodka off some bloke, insists on making it a spot prize at CoHudd, which I then go onto win.
- Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:36 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: C4C/apto/Countdown Dreams
- Replies: 759
- Views: 410241
Re: C4C/apto/Countdown Dreams
Is it actually possible for anyone to have, like, a C4C/Apto/Countdown dream which doesn't go insane in it? It is, but we don't post them on here. On the subject of Countdown dreams, I had one while I was Leeds fest where my supervisior on the night shift was none other than Mr Corby, who proceeded...
- Thu Sep 03, 2015 10:10 am
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: Matt Le Tissier to appear on Countdown
- Replies: 24
- Views: 5917
Re: Matt Le Tissier to appear on Countdown
Dictionary corner guest has changed for this one now, in DC for Matt Le Tissier is now Graeme Le Saux his old Southampton Team Mate, it was scheduled to be Tony Jacklin, I believe Graeme Le Saux is also clever enough to go on the show from what I was told. Don't think Le Tiss and Le Saux were ever ...
- Mon Aug 10, 2015 9:41 am
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: C4C/apto/Countdown Dreams
- Replies: 759
- Views: 410241
Re: C4C/apto/Countdown Dreams
Had a dream mainly non-apterous related last but briefly included an episode of Celebrity Squares with Mark Deeks in the centre. Can't remember the full details but it also had Stan Collymore involved at some point