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by Sue Sanders
Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:04 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers For Wednesday November 25th 2009
Replies: 32
Views: 4363

Re: Spoilers For Wednesday November 25th 2009

OUTFLEW to equal 'EELPOUT'!!
by Sue Sanders
Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:41 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers For Wednesday November 25th 2009
Replies: 32
Views: 4363

Re: Spoilers For Wednesday November 25th 2009

'STRICTLY COME DRINKING'...he obviously didn't see the Oz Clarke and James May programme then.
And, years ago there was a programme on Channel 4, I think, where Jools Holland took Rowland Rivron out with the sole intention of getting him pissed. Brilliant!
by Sue Sanders
Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:07 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: The C4C Football-haters Thread
Replies: 112
Views: 10480

Re: The C4C Football-haters Thread

Jon Corby wrote:And we didn't call you a simpleton, despite your invitation :)

:D x
by Sue Sanders
Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:07 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: The C4C Football-haters Thread
Replies: 112
Views: 10480

Re: The C4C Football-haters Thread

Which surely suggests that citing google as a reflection of acceptable usage of grammar is somewhat hit and miss? (Which is going back a wee bit in this thread but, well, it is something of a meandering one.) I'm sure those of you who have grown up in the computer generation think it second nature t...
by Sue Sanders
Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:29 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: The C4C Football-haters Thread
Replies: 112
Views: 10480

Re: The C4C Football-haters Thread

Just did a google search on Ask The Family's Robert Robinson, which turns up nearly 500,000 hits. But also 'Ask The Family's Robert Robertson' turns up over 100,000. Let's hope Robert isn't such an old ludite as to want to 'cling on' to his actual name under mounting google pressure to be known by ...
by Sue Sanders
Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:17 pm
Forum: Games and Puzzles
Topic: Pop, pop, pop Master + THE CHAIN
Replies: 225
Views: 24113

Re: Pop, pop, pop Master + THE CHAIN

Awful day today, 12 and 24. Nine in thirty of course though. Yep, absolute stinker - 18 and 21. Who the hell chooses Beatles B-sides?! Great work on the 39, Ian, certainly didn't get that. For 9 in 30, my top ones would be: The Smiths Blur Oasis OMD Erasure Take That The Lightning Seeds :oops: Chee...
by Sue Sanders
Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:36 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Dancing Santa
Replies: 27
Views: 3640

Re: Dancing Santa

Or it could have been one of those extreme close up photos of 2 thumbs pushed together. Well, I was pushing the boys together for display purposes ;) Maybe this is better http://www.dancingsantacard.com/?santa=240807 No! That's dull!!!! But the santahoundwithcataract look is enough to cause hysteri...
by Sue Sanders
Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:32 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Dancing Santa
Replies: 27
Views: 3640

Re: Dancing Santa

Marc Meakin wrote:Or it could have been one of those extreme close up photos of 2 thumbs pushed together.
Well, I was pushing the boys together for display purposes ;)
by Sue Sanders
Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:28 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Dancing Santa
Replies: 27
Views: 3640

Re: Dancing Santa

Marc Meakin wrote:
Derek Hazell wrote:
This isn't showing anything other than what it implies - step 3 of the process :?:
Yeah sorry my bad.
I will try again to get it right.
Oh, so that's not you, post-op then? You did say you were blond(e)!
by Sue Sanders
Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:23 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: The C4C Football-haters Thread
Replies: 112
Views: 10480

Re: The C4C Football-haters Thread

Ok, well perhaps the ODE will see fit to change their 'usage notes' under the entry for 'bored'. While they're at it perhaps they'll change the definition of 'black' and 'white' ;) It's interesting how strongly people cling to what they were taught as a child. Even those old codgers at the ODE were...
by Sue Sanders
Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:09 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: The C4C Football-haters Thread
Replies: 112
Views: 10480

Re: The C4C Football-haters Thread

Liam Tiernan wrote:
Sue Sanders wrote:
Phil Reynolds wrote:If you actually care two hoots about any of this, you're posting in the wrong topic.

Periscope down. Dive, dive, dive.....dive, dive, dive.
Torpedoes away! http://www.dancingsantacard.com/en/?santa=223711

:D
'Two hoots'
by Sue Sanders
Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:25 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: The C4C Football-haters Thread
Replies: 112
Views: 10480

Re: The C4C Football-haters Thread

Alec Rivers wrote:
Sue Sanders wrote:TAKE THIS POST ELSEWHERE, ALEC :evil:
Phil Reynolds wrote:If you actually care two hoots about any of this, you're posting in the wrong topic.
I like your style, Phil. :)


Just a playful dig, Sue.
Periscope down. Dive, dive, dive.....dive, dive, dive.
by Sue Sanders
Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:49 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Dancing Santa
Replies: 27
Views: 3640

Re: Dancing Santa

Ian Volante wrote:
Sue Sanders wrote:I was inspired!

http://www.dancingsantacard.com/en/?santa=223711
Is that yours?
'Are they yours' ....yes.
by Sue Sanders
Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:30 pm
Forum: Games and Puzzles
Topic: Pop, pop, pop Master + THE CHAIN
Replies: 225
Views: 24113

Re: Pop, pop, pop Master + THE CHAIN

BTW Sue - I wish I was coming to your event in Canterbury, too. Sounds like a great night, with two of my all-time favs. Will Alan Price be fronting The Animals? I didn't catch the name of who was was fronting the Animals - Tony someone - but he looked a lot younger than the others. But, after a wh...
by Sue Sanders
Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:46 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers For Tuesday November 24th 2009
Replies: 28
Views: 3538

Re: Spoilers For Tuesday November 24th 2009

CREWMEN to equal DC
by Sue Sanders
Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:37 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers For Tuesday November 24th 2009
Replies: 28
Views: 3538

Re: Spoilers For Tuesday November 24th 2009

Marc Meakin wrote:
Sue Sanders wrote:Hmmm. Chinese crispy seaweed is made from a type of lettuce.
What about kiwi fruit
I expect pureed kiwi fruit is available commercially, even if only in smoothies and fruit drinks.
by Sue Sanders
Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:27 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers For Tuesday November 24th 2009
Replies: 28
Views: 3538

Re: Spoilers For Tuesday November 24th 2009

Hmmm. Chinese crispy seaweed is made from a type of lettuce. And Chinese leaves...often in stirfries
by Sue Sanders
Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:13 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Dancing Santa
Replies: 27
Views: 3640

Re: Dancing Santa

by Sue Sanders
Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:58 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Dancing Santa
Replies: 27
Views: 3640

Re: Dancing Santa

Jon Corby wrote:I decided to check out a few more, and some people really don't get the concept...
AAAAAA-lol!!!
by Sue Sanders
Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:49 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: The C4C Football-haters Thread
Replies: 112
Views: 10480

Re: The C4C Football-haters Thread

But I've just read this, which says it much better. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/dominic_lawson/article6926947.ece He questions why it's still called 'the beautiful game'. Firstly, the game itself will always be beautiful to those of us who love it, even if some of those play...
by Sue Sanders
Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:52 am
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: A Poll: Who are your favourite members?
Replies: 65
Views: 5563

Re: A Poll: Who are your favourite members?

If there was a poll for people who you thought were lovely when you met them, you'd have my vote, Andy. Plus a bonus vote for your cute apple cheeks! ;- *
by Sue Sanders
Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:14 am
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Eggheads
Replies: 123
Views: 12194

Re: Eggheads

Shhh. I'm thinking.
by Sue Sanders
Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:13 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: The C4C Football-haters Thread
Replies: 112
Views: 10480

Re: The C4C Football-haters Thread

Ok, well perhaps the ODE will see fit to change their 'usage notes' under the entry for 'bored'. While they're at it perhaps they'll change the definition of 'black' and 'white'
;)
by Sue Sanders
Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:05 pm
Forum: Countdown - General
Topic: Interesting Contestants??
Replies: 24
Views: 3898

Re: Interesting Contestants??

Marc Meakin wrote:
Matthew Green wrote:
Clive Brooker wrote:Good luck tomorrow!
This makes absolutely no sense.
Annie Hall is Anne Durham.
Yeah, and she played her game weeks ago. Not 'tomorrow'.
by Sue Sanders
Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:31 am
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: The C4C Football-haters Thread
Replies: 112
Views: 10480

Re: The C4C Football-haters Thread

Apparently the google hits jumped up due to the number of hits on 'Bored of the Rings', a title which was obviously intended as a pun rather than an indication of common grammatical usage of 'bored of'.
by Sue Sanders
Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:26 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Children in Need
Replies: 11
Views: 1967

Re: Children in Need

Jon O'Neill wrote:Yeah it was good! Didn't cry though, perhaps a bit young. Didn't recognise most of the people.
People!!
by Sue Sanders
Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:48 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: The C4C Football-haters Thread
Replies: 112
Views: 10480

Re: The C4C Football-haters Thread

It's 'bored with' not 'bored of'. Why? I ran into a "bored of" diatribe the other day. If you can be "tired of" something, what's the problem with "bored of"? Yes, indeed, 'tired of' is correct. Despite increasing usage, 'bored of' still isn't recognised as Standard En...
by Sue Sanders
Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:19 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Eggheads
Replies: 123
Views: 12194

Re: Eggheads

Kai Laddiman wrote:this/that data
this/that criteria
brothers
Thanks, Kai. You've put a lot of effort into the project! :lol:
by Sue Sanders
Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:56 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Eggheads
Replies: 123
Views: 12194

Re: Eggheads

Actually - if you've got a spare day, Kai, can you produce a list, please? 'Things that makes Kai go "Grrr"'.

I'll start...

Panini's -unneeded 's' and with an apostrophe to boot.
by Sue Sanders
Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:53 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Eggheads
Replies: 123
Views: 12194

Re: Eggheads

Kai Laddiman wrote:
Sue Sanders wrote:one criteria
*growl*
See 'Football haters' thread. I can only be pendantic about one thing at a time!

Sorry, Kai :cry:
by Sue Sanders
Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:43 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: The C4C Football-haters Thread
Replies: 112
Views: 10480

Re: The C4C Football-haters Thread

This can be.......about any other random non-football-related point not worthy of its own topic. In the spirit of what the thread was meant to be..... It's 'bored with' not 'bored of'. Doesn't 'I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue' make you glad to be a middle class, middle aged, middle Englander? I only rem...
by Sue Sanders
Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:23 am
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Duh.
Replies: 8
Views: 1331

Re: Duh.

While your interest is up, watch Apollo 13, and realise just how clever what they did was. Oh yeah, seen that two or three time. Gripping. Also seen 'The Dish' and documentaries both promoting and debunking the 'fake moon landings' conspiracy, so I'm not totally uninformed about the moon missions; ...
by Sue Sanders
Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:36 am
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Duh.
Replies: 8
Views: 1331

Duh.

Apologies if such a thread has been done before, but last night, I had one of those 'Of course, how stupid of me' moments! I watched 'In the Shadow of the Moon' on telly last night , and for the first time, realised that it was a separate module that took Buzz and Neil to the surface whilst Mike Col...
by Sue Sanders
Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:48 am
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: UK Citizenship Test
Replies: 83
Views: 8140

Re: UK Citizenship Test

I hadn't thought much about the fact it isn't actually given as a number on signs until a Canadian comic pointed it out, having arrived in the UK with a valid driving licence only to find we keep it close to our chest. And it struck me as amusing (so, good choice of gag by the comedian then!!) I've ...
by Sue Sanders
Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:30 am
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Eggheads
Replies: 123
Views: 12194

Re: Eggheads

If I get over-subscribed for this, one criteria I will be implementing is the harsh and totally unimpartial 'Is this person too annoying to appear on television'

:D
by Sue Sanders
Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:09 am
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Thursday 19th November 2009
Replies: 48
Views: 4597

Re: Spoilers for Thursday 19th November 2009

I've recently been on a couple of holidays where I'm accompanying blind people. The thing I always want to explain to people asking why I do it, is that it's very companionable. It's exactly the word I want to use, but it's always just a car crash in the middle of my sentence!
by Sue Sanders
Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:38 am
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Eggheads
Replies: 123
Views: 12194

Re: Eggheads

I've been in touch with the production company and next lot of auditions are in January. So those who are interested PM me your email address so I can forward the application as an attachment. Then, depending on response, we might want to think about a Northern Team and a Southern Team for ease of a...
by Sue Sanders
Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:31 am
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: UK Citizenship Test
Replies: 83
Views: 8140

Re: UK Citizenship Test

I've just been having a think about what sort of topics we might all think would be revelant, and can only come up with...if you're catching an Easy Jet flight, you really DO have to get there 20 minutes before the flight time. Study material required...one episode of 'Airline'. You'll develop a gre...
by Sue Sanders
Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:17 am
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: The C4C Football-haters Thread
Replies: 112
Views: 10480

Re: The C4C Football-haters Thread

I don't hate football, but I find people's obsession with it rather annoying sometimes. It's like religion but without a god. Actually it's not the obsession with football that's as annoying as the obsession with a particular team. I find it a bit weird really. Yeah - that's what I was talking to D...
by Sue Sanders
Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:11 am
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: UK Citizenship Test
Replies: 83
Views: 8140

Re: UK Citizenship Test

13 for me, but I do feel I answered mainly the relevant ones correctly. Which ones were they? I'm sure the point you're making is that they were all pretty irrelevant, but ... the relevant ones to my mind were the school uniform one, the where to get advise from one, the who's entitled to free Rx's...
by Sue Sanders
Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:48 pm
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: CoLei thoughts for 2010
Replies: 35
Views: 5348

Re: CoLei thoughts for 2010

James Robinson wrote:A nice date, so I can attend this time :!: :lol:
Interesting definition of 'a nice date'. ;)
by Sue Sanders
Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:45 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers For Friday November 20th 2009
Replies: 21
Views: 3078

Re: Spoilers For Friday November 20th 2009

Wow top comeback Charlie thought your number was up. I'm quite intrigued to see how long a sentence you're prepared to make, without putting in any punctuation. :? ;) I think you misunderstand. "Top comeback Charlie" is Charlie Khoo's nickname, and he thought someone's number was up. I'm ...
by Sue Sanders
Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:36 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers For Friday November 20th 2009
Replies: 21
Views: 3078

Re: Spoilers For Friday November 20th 2009

Andrew Herbertson wrote:Wow top comeback Charlie thought your number was up.

I'm quite intrigued to see how long a sentence you're prepared to make, without putting in any punctuation. :? ;)
by Sue Sanders
Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:38 pm
Forum: Games and Puzzles
Topic: Pop, pop, pop Master + THE CHAIN
Replies: 225
Views: 24113

Re: Pop, pop, pop Master + THE CHAIN

Forgot to mention I got a 39 on Monday! As for 9 in 30: The Beatles Depeche Mode Rolling Stones Madonna I ran out pretty quickly there! I'm sure there are a few more, but I'm pressed for time right now :) Well done on 39. That'll keep that young whipper-snapper De Caux on his toes! Impressed on the...
by Sue Sanders
Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:51 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Super Cool Funny Jokes
Replies: 144
Views: 18702

Re: Super Cool Funny Jokes

Why does Edward Woodward have 4 Ds in his name? Because otherwise he'd be called Ewar Woowar Why did Edward Woodward have 4 Ds in his name. And what did you call a man with three planks of wood on his head. Although technically, if his coffin is made of wood, it could still be do . If he is cremate...
by Sue Sanders
Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:23 pm
Forum: Games and Puzzles
Topic: Pop, pop, pop Master + THE CHAIN
Replies: 225
Views: 24113

Re: Pop, pop, pop Master + THE CHAIN

I was telling Bob on Tuesday that my ideal 3 in 10 had come up on pop master that morning...The Sweet, for whom I can reel off 13 hits. I realise I'm confident they are singles rather than album tracks as I have many of them on 45rpm vinyl(been a fan since about 5 years old). I had been wondering if...
by Sue Sanders
Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:12 am
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Children in Need
Replies: 11
Views: 1967

Re: Children in Need

I thought it was amazing - I was in bits! (Sad but true...) I've now spoken to four other people and the response so far has been 100% the same. Maybe it's a generational thing (we're all over 40), but for such an ostensibly trivial bit of fun it packs a powerful emotional punch. My reaction isn't ...
by Sue Sanders
Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:55 am
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: The C4C Football-haters Thread
Replies: 112
Views: 10480

Re: The C4C Football-haters Thread

This is the thread for forum members who either have no interest in football or hate football to post their comments and/or opinions. Apart from me, I can think of Gevin, Joseph, Phil and Sue who are not at all interested in the "beautiful" game. So roll up, one and all - don't be shy. Fo...
by Sue Sanders
Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:56 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Eggheads
Replies: 123
Views: 12194

Re: Eggheads

Not forgotten about this - I just haven't had time to chase it up yet.
by Sue Sanders
Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:51 pm
Forum: Countdown - General
Topic: The Official Finals "jizz in your pants" excitement thread
Replies: 44
Views: 3780

Re: The Official Finals "jizz in your pants" excitement thread

For words that aren't in your dictionary, just build them up in blocks of letters...e.g. Apt er o us. Despite the gaps, it's perfectly understandable. . You could do the gaps thing but if you want to type apterous in the future it gets pretty bloody annoying having to type it as "apt er o us&q...
by Sue Sanders
Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:24 pm
Forum: Countdown - General
Topic: The Official Finals "jizz in your pants" excitement thread
Replies: 44
Views: 3780

Re: The Official Finals "jizz in your pants" excitement thread

I'm with Kirk on this. I can't see how on earth people don't think predictive text is a massive improvement on the old method. Sure occasionally you have to press an extra few buttons to change "good" to "home" or whatever, but don't you look at what you're typing?! I've always ...
by Sue Sanders
Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:17 am
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: UK Citizenship Test
Replies: 83
Views: 8140

Re: UK Citizenship Test

Is the statement below TRUE or FALSE? 'You can attend a hospital without a GP's letter only in the case of an emergency.' If there are departments at hospitals that allow you to deal with 'urgent' issues in a similar as you do at the doctors -i.e a same day appointment or a 'sit and wait' approach,...
by Sue Sanders
Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:19 am
Forum: Countdown - General
Topic: Interesting Contestants??
Replies: 24
Views: 3898

Re: Interesting Contestants??

Des L chatted to me mid programme as well as at the beginning and asked me about internet dating. I told him about a bloke who'd posted a photo that was so out of date that his chiselled jawline had now turned into an enormous double chin. The audience fell quiet and collectively looked at their sho...
by Sue Sanders
Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:52 am
Forum: Countdown - General
Topic: Official Series 61 Finals Spoilers
Replies: 95
Views: 9501

Re: Official Series 61 Finals Spoilers

At one point during the finals, filming was delayed as one of the finalists appeared to be missing. So Jeff sent his dad, who had turned up to watch, out to look for him. A few minutes later Jeff's dad reappeared. "Well?", said Jeff. Jeff's dad looked up sheepishly, and gave his reply . ....
by Sue Sanders
Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:49 am
Forum: Countdown - General
Topic: Official Series 61 Finals Spoilers
Replies: 95
Views: 9501

Re: Official Series 61 Finals Spoilers

I have discovered that such comments often have the effect of holding up a mirror to myself, with the result that any disappointing thoughts prove to have their roots in me and my own shortcomings, not in the responders themselves. Bloody hell. A forum isn't a tool for discovering your shortcomings...
by Sue Sanders
Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:22 am
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: UK Citizenship Test
Replies: 83
Views: 8140

Re: UK Citizenship Test

You can't attend a hospital for a non-emergency? Do they have scouts on all the approach roads cutting off the freeloaders? If you sneak past them, does the doctor say "I can't see you, you're a non-emergency, so you aren't here"? When you go to hospital for a non-emergency, you've been r...
by Sue Sanders
Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:13 am
Forum: Countdown - General
Topic: Official Series 61 Finals Spoilers
Replies: 95
Views: 9501

Re: Official Series 61 Finals Spoilers

Marc, Do you like to meet new people wearing a comedy wig, are your coat pockets stuffed full of the contents of an old man's shed, if you've forgotten your watch - which is always - do you tell the time by buying something from a shop and checking the time on the till receipt? If so, yes you are De...
by Sue Sanders
Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:03 am
Forum: Countdown - General
Topic: Official Series 61 Finals Spoilers
Replies: 95
Views: 9501

Re: Official Series 61 Finals Spoilers

However, from little acorns, great oaks grow I didn't realise you were such a Hazell nut. Consider this my resignation from the Internet. It's the forum that's the Great Oak, as well you know, so don't you go making really crap Hazellesque jokes too. I've had to put up with Derek in my car for enou...
by Sue Sanders
Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:38 am
Forum: Countdown - General
Topic: Official Series 61 Finals Spoilers
Replies: 95
Views: 9501

Re: Official Series 61 Finals Spoilers

Christ no!!!!!! HAVE YOU MET DEREK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But a brownie point surely for him sticking up for himself?
by Sue Sanders
Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:32 am
Forum: Countdown - General
Topic: Official Series 61 Finals Spoilers
Replies: 95
Views: 9501

Re: Official Series 61 Finals Spoilers

No doubt someone will start a poll and all the people who hate me but for some reason are addicted to posting on my forum will come out to vote in favour of even more Derek Hazell jokes. No-one has had to spend more time with Derek Hazell over the last couple of days than me, so you can imagine...I...