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by Julian Fell
Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:44 am
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: COOT '08 R2 - Priest vs Reams
Replies: 4
Views: 1492

Re: COOT '08 R2 - Priest vs Reams

Charlie Reams wrote:I haven't played for about 2 months
I haven't played for about 4 years :shock:

(For the record, that last numbers round is possible, so final max score of 121 I believe)
by Julian Fell
Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:40 am
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: COOT Round 2 - Howe vs Corby
Replies: 13
Views: 2220

Re: COOT Round 2 - Howe vs Corby

Can't really see anything in the definition to justify allowing a plural, Joseph, although there's no knowing really, these things do seem to depend largely on what side of bed Susie/Damian got out that morning... UNMETERED was a fantastic spot guys... I got the impression you missed a few more maxi...
by Julian Fell
Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:30 am
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: COOT IV Odds
Replies: 66
Views: 6622

Re: COOT IV Odds

Just as well you couldn't update your ratings a week or two earlier Charlie, otherwise I would've had to play qualifiers for COOT... I wouldn't even have been one of the 8 seeds, yet people have me down as favourite :? I have a decent record in the games I've played (most of which don't count toward...
by Julian Fell
Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:14 am
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: Long-awaited ratings update
Replies: 4
Views: 1250

Re: Long-awaited ratings update

Glad to see Corby's got a more realistic ranking now. Corby how much have you improved since you were on TV :shock: , back then you were pretty beatable but now, I'd back you to give Beevers a good game. It's Ben P who has the unrealistic ranking now, I'm sure most people would agree he's a top-ten ...
by Julian Fell
Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:03 am
Forum: Countdown - General
Topic: CoC XIII Discussion Thread
Replies: 114
Views: 15059

Re: CoC XIII Discussion Thread

I'm all talk Charlie (and I'm not going to bet against somebody who gets 97% in a Cambridge exam :shock: )... still don't see how you and Jim can be so confident though. Even if Damian 'forgot' to invite Hansford, Hansford wouldn't forget that he was supposed to be invited, would he? And there'd be ...
by Julian Fell
Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:58 am
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Exam results
Replies: 55
Views: 5238

Re: Exam results

I'm officially a bit scared of you now Charlie. Bloody hell :shock:
by Julian Fell
Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:29 am
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: COOT '08 Round Two!
Replies: 59
Views: 5253

Re: COOT '08 Round Two!

Hi, it looks like Karen and I will be playing at 8pm-ish on Friday - can anyone host then? Merci
by Julian Fell
Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:21 am
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: COOT '08 R2 - Priest vs Reams
Replies: 4
Views: 1492

Re: COOT '08 R2 - Priest vs Reams

Yeah I think I too was expecting a bit more from Charlie, but to be fair he's got more important things to worry about at the moment, like graduation!

Ben Pugh and the loser of the Corby-Howe match will be hot favourites for the Plate for me, as things stand anyway...
by Julian Fell
Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:13 am
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: COOT IV Odds
Replies: 66
Views: 6622

Re: COOT IV Odds

D'oh, I think your odds are a bit wrong-headed Richard, putting me as favourite despite having not played for nearly 4 years, being 16th in Charlie's rankings and very nearly being beaten by Jon Stitcher the last time I played (in September 2004)... was kind of hoping I'd be seen as a dangerous outs...
by Julian Fell
Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:37 am
Forum: Countdown - General
Topic: CountMax errors
Replies: 727
Views: 91433

Re: CountMax errors

Was looking at the recap for Jono's COMA quarter-final and realized that NUDISMS technically should be allowed, and should be listed in CountMax, even though it's completely ridiculous - but NUDISM isn't specified as a mass noun so there you have it. Also WAZOO, as mentioned by Charlie, still I assu...
by Julian Fell
Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:33 am
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: COOT prelim game 5 Jon Corby vs Ben Pugh
Replies: 1
Views: 1060

Re: COOT prelim game 5 Jon Corby vs Ben Pugh

Corby wrote:Watching: James Hurrell (until his wife pulled him off for dinner :? )
:? indeed

Seriously though: Ben, if you can replicate this form in the studio you'd be extremely unlucky not to win a series on TV - hope to see you on the show sooner rather than later...
by Julian Fell
Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:23 am
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: "What is COLIN?" and other questions
Replies: 37
Views: 36302

Re: "What is COLIN?" and other questions

Just reading the wiki article on Countdown tournaments and it says (or suggests) that the letters and numbers are actually pre-determined at COBris, i.e. not picked on the day... is that right? As I understood it, they are actually picked then and there, although everyone plays from the same set (an...
by Julian Fell
Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:58 am
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: COOT '08 Round One!
Replies: 80
Views: 9310

Re: COOT '08 Round One!

Charlie Reams wrote:I've taken time out of my final-week-as-an-undergraduate schedule
Charlie when is the big day btw? Don't let your parents take embarrassing pictures of you etc. ...
by Julian Fell
Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:56 am
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: COOT '08 Round One!
Replies: 80
Views: 9310

Re: COOT '08 Round One!

To be fair though Matthew G, Damian has said recently that on TV they sometimes remove the J or Q or X from the letters pile for a few shows if they've had a run of bad letters rounds; and the J went missing (presumably unintentionally) for most of series 47, so there are probably quite a few player...
by Julian Fell
Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:43 am
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: COOT '08 Official Enrolment Thread
Replies: 64
Views: 8708

Re: COOT '08 Official Enrolment Thread

What's going on with Conor, is he just posting the odd word on the Spoilers thread and not reading the rest of the forum?

Speak to us Conor :)
by Julian Fell
Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:21 pm
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: Countdown in Leicester (CoLei) - Saturday 30 August 2008
Replies: 57
Views: 7955

Re: COUNTDOWN IN LEICESTER (CoLei) - SATURDAY 30 AUGUST 2008

James Hurrell wrote:Thanks Jono, but I am being dragged to a wedding that day (unfortunately nowhere near Nottingham otherwise I'd try and sneak out)
Not your own wedding I hope :roll: :)
by Julian Fell
Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:16 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Tuedsay, 24th June
Replies: 14
Views: 2376

Re: Spoilers for Tuedsay, 24th June

Corby wrote:
Corby wrote:They gave Tony 7 points for TINKLER? WTF? It's not in :x
HELLO!!!!????

DOES NOBODY CARE ABOUT THIS INJUSTICE EXCEPT ME?!

:x
gambiers x

HELLO!!???

DOES NOBODY CARE ABOUT THIS... oh forget it

( :D )
by Julian Fell
Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:11 pm
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: COOT prelim game 2 Howard vs Rich
Replies: 19
Views: 3442

Re: COOT prelim game 2 Howard vs Rich

No Os selected in the Wallace-Brittain game either :o :shock: :o

It's a conspiracy to deny O-lovers the chance of glory!!

But yes maybe Countgen does need to be checked Paul, if that's what the hosts so far have been using?
by Julian Fell
Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:57 am
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: COOT '08 Round One!
Replies: 80
Views: 9310

Re: COOT '08 Round One!

Would be a shame if Heather missed out again - I believe she said she was in COOT 3 but didn't get to play then either because of the tournament's organizational difficulties... she might be a bit annoyed if she's forfeited this time. Come on Heather! 8-)
by Julian Fell
Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:51 am
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: COOT '08 Official Enrolment Thread
Replies: 64
Views: 8708

Re: COOT '08 Official Enrolment Thread

Conor's back :D :shock: 8-) (well he's posted in the Spoilers section anyway)

Conor any news re when you can play the last COMA match?
by Julian Fell
Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:30 pm
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: Countdown in Leicester (CoLei) - Saturday 30 August 2008
Replies: 57
Views: 7955

Re: COUNTDOWN IN LEICESTER (CoLei) - SATURDAY 30 AUGUST 2008

I thought both COLin and COBris were run on a Swiss format?
by Julian Fell
Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:21 pm
Forum: Countdown - General
Topic: Des Chiffres et Des Lettres
Replies: 57
Views: 7098

Re: Des Chiffres et Des Lettres

Hang on though, I remember reading a post a little while back about a person (I presumed, an English contestant - actually I thought it was you Jeff!) chatting to the DCedL hosts about the differences between DCedL and Countdown, and the hosts saying it's no wonder they take 45 minutes on Countdown ...
by Julian Fell
Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:12 pm
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: COOT Prelim game 3 - Matt Coates V Matt Green
Replies: 13
Views: 2654

Re: COOT Prelim game 3 - Matt Coates V Matt Green

Don't know if they were meant to be tongue-in-cheek offerings (if so, sorry), but CARTIER and PARISHED aren't allowed... Also Howard I think Jono said it's just people who get knocked out in the preliminaries and in the first round proper (i.e. last 16) who go into the Plate. That may be wrong thoug...
by Julian Fell
Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:19 pm
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: COOT IV Opening Preliminary Game
Replies: 2
Views: 1646

Re: COOT IV Opening Preliminary Game

DC-beaters ISATIN and SIXAIN in round 4 (so max. score for the whole game = 123)
by Julian Fell
Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:59 am
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: COOT '08 Round One!
Replies: 80
Views: 9310

Re: COOT '08 Round One!

David are you computered again? If so Jono might let you have a late wildcard entry into COOT if you want it?
by Julian Fell
Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:46 am
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Congrats David
Replies: 14
Views: 3318

Re: Congrats David

Corby wrote:Word.
:?:
by Julian Fell
Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:44 am
Forum: Countdown - General
Topic: CoC XIII Discussion Thread
Replies: 114
Views: 15059

Re: CoC XIII Discussion Thread

I'd be massively surprised if Hansford wasn't invited back David - I don't really think Damian has much choice here
by Julian Fell
Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:38 am
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: COOT '08 Official Enrolment Thread
Replies: 64
Views: 8708

Re: COOT '08 Official Enrolment Thread

It would be a great disppointment that the very last game of the tournament would be usurped like this, but Conor has been AWOL for ages, despite my emails and text messages- and the first game of the final was played way back on March 22nd. Horrendous- and thus, I'm setting a deadline of June 22nd...
by Julian Fell
Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:29 am
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: COOT '08 Round One!
Replies: 80
Views: 9310

Re: COOT '08 Round One!

JON CORBY vs. BEN PUGH Ouch - judging by their performances in COMA, these two could well have contested the COOT final, yet one of them's going to be out even before round one... that's a rum draw. Hard luck guys. (btw Ben P when are you applying to go on the show? judging by your COMA games you c...
by Julian Fell
Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:53 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Friday 20th June 2008
Replies: 56
Views: 5970

Re: Spoilers for Friday 20th June 2008

Tom, not to belittle or trivialize it, but I'm gobsmacked to hear that - you're one of the most well-rounded, sociable people I've ever met. If you have AS, how many others must have it... perhaps I'd better shut up as I clearly know nothing about this subject. As I say though, am really surprised. ...
by Julian Fell
Sat Jun 21, 2008 7:16 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Friday 20th June 2008
Replies: 56
Views: 5970

Re: Spoilers for Friday 20th June 2008

But Paul, whether or not Hansford does it knowingly or with the same amount of understanding as someone without his condition, is it fair that other contestants will be trying to win (what will probably be) close, hard-fought Championship of Champions games against him without cheating, whereas he m...
by Julian Fell
Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:14 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Friday 20th June 2008
Replies: 56
Views: 5970

Re: Spoilers for Friday 20th June 2008

Do we have to have Hansford back :x I suppose if Damian doesn't invite him he'll kick up a fuss, so there's no choice...
by Julian Fell
Sat Jun 21, 2008 2:27 pm
Forum: Countdown - Current recaps
Topic: Monday recaps
Replies: 26
Views: 2734

Re: Monday recaps

Charlie are you a big Scrabble player then? (boo hiss) You seem to know a lot about the game and the players on the circuit anyway
by Julian Fell
Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:02 am
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: Post your MSN address here
Replies: 43
Views: 11847

Re: msn

juj_fell AT hotmail DOT com

Dinos is your name Syfris or Sfyris? Both of those are used on the Corral so I'm confused...
by Julian Fell
Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:02 am
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Friday 20th June 2008
Replies: 56
Views: 5970

Re: Spoilers for Friday 20th June 2008

Hmmm... :) Anyway I'd just like to add my voice to the many congratulating David - another excellent performance, and some great spots from (yet again...) tricky selections. The combined difficulty of those three numbers games must be a record for a series final, surely?? But to pull that first one ...
by Julian Fell
Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:32 pm
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: COOT '08 Official Enrolment Thread
Replies: 64
Views: 8708

Re: COOT '08 Official Enrolment Thread

Ah that's a shame David... you and Conor would probably have been the two favourites and you're both going to be absent... still, what can you do. Hopefully it'll still be a good tournament.
by Julian Fell
Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:28 pm
Forum: Countdown - Current recaps
Topic: Monday recaps
Replies: 26
Views: 2734

Re: Monday recaps

Lol. By the way how did Zef's true identity come to light?
by Julian Fell
Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:12 am
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Wednesday 18th June 2008
Replies: 31
Views: 2712

Re: Spoilers for Wednesday 18th June 2008

Yes just seen the game - really really well done to both players, fantastic play - and great to see both of you keeping on smiling and joking throughout the nerves, the lead changing hands, words being disallowed etc. Wish I could do that! It's great that David's shown his ability to win tight games...
by Julian Fell
Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:44 am
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Thursday 19th June
Replies: 20
Views: 2955

Re: Spoilers for Thursday 19th June

Well done Richard, great performance. And it looked like the game was played in a good atmosphere - I liked Richard's and Peter's Henman-esque fist pumps towards the end there! Re the correcting-Carol thing, I did something similar in one of my games Richard, because I thought the same as you, that ...
by Julian Fell
Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:14 am
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: COOT '08 Official Enrolment Thread
Replies: 64
Views: 8708

Re: COOT '08 Official Enrolment Thread

Jono would you be willing to let COMA and COOT IV overlap, since it doesn't look like Conor's going to be back any time soon? I still think Ben would be within his rights to default Conor from COMA though, even if Jono did agree to that. But I agree with others that it'd be a shame to have COMA won ...
by Julian Fell
Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:59 pm
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: Countdown in Nottingham- exhibition game
Replies: 18
Views: 3196

Re: Countdown in Nottingham- exhibition game

That sounds murderously difficult Ben! Good idea though. I'll be happy just to watch (that's if I can make it to CONot in the first place...)
by Julian Fell
Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:35 am
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Tuesday 17th June 2008
Replies: 17
Views: 2687

Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 17th June 2008

Just seen the third and fourth quarter-finals back-to-back; Richard was solid, but I was impressed by Jonathan - he was superb until round 9 (he'd've been 11 points ahead against me at that point, after I'd missed the first numbers game and PENTODES), but he then went off the boil, missing MEDIATORS...
by Julian Fell
Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:03 am
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: COOT '08 Official Enrolment Thread
Replies: 64
Views: 8708

Re: COOT '08 Official Enrolment Thread

That's what I was getting at Corby, although God forbid that it should be true, of course... The thing is that Jono's said he doesn't want COMA and COOT IV to overlap, so, unless Jono wants to change his mind about that (?), you'd have to set a deadline for COMA really, because it's a bit unfair if ...
by Julian Fell
Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:54 am
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: Countdown in Nottingham- exhibition game
Replies: 18
Views: 3196

Re: Countdown in Nottingham- exhibition game

Are you able to give details of this mysterious exhibition game now that it's been tested Ben? I'm sure we're all on tenterhooks...
by Julian Fell
Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:51 am
Forum: Countdown - Current recaps
Topic: Monday recaps
Replies: 26
Views: 2734

Re: Monday recaps

What I like about your recaps Jim is the background information you give about the players, and general commentary... it really adds colour to what might otherwise be a dry statistical exercise, and nobody does it as well as you. In the four years or so when I gave up watching regularly, if there wa...
by Julian Fell
Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:36 am
Forum: Countdown - Current recaps
Topic: Monday 16 June 2008 (Series 58, Quarter-final 3)
Replies: 4
Views: 1641

Re: Monday 16 June 2008 (Series 58, Quarter-final 3)

Yeah I noticed that anomaly as well Corby (you can add VIDEOES, TANGOES, ZEROES to your list, and I can't think of another -OS verb either...); bit unlucky there was our Tim. I wonder if it's because there simply aren't any examples of the verb LIMBO in the third-person present tense in the British ...
by Julian Fell
Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:57 am
Forum: Countdown - General
Topic: David Mitchell
Replies: 14
Views: 4742

Re: David Mitchell

On the subject of guests in general - just seen on Ceefax - Phil Hammond on this week! Brilliant, nice one Damian and YTV, that makes up for not getting David Mitchell (yet).
by Julian Fell
Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:54 am
Forum: Countdown - General
Topic: Congratulations to Des
Replies: 3
Views: 1241

Re: Congratulations to Des

Yes I saw that as well - I imagine it'll get a mention or two on Countdown in due course! Well done Des.
by Julian Fell
Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:51 am
Forum: Countdown - General
Topic: CountMax errors
Replies: 727
Views: 91433

Re: CountMax errors

Yes I know it was me who said that Corby - I just understood that it was Jim's dictionary (with help/tweaking from others) which was being used in CountMax, so I directed the main congratulations to him, because it was CountMax that we were talking about; I knew that you'd made your own version, but...
by Julian Fell
Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:38 am
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Friday, 13th June
Replies: 19
Views: 2109

Re: Spoilers for Friday, 13th June

Yes just seen Friday's game - disappointed to see Michael go; what a great character... but he just missed too much easy stuff. But at least he went down with a fight, and walloped DC with BEETROOT. Mind you, Peter's gradually showing himself to have a sense of humour as well, and I thought that QF ...
by Julian Fell
Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:29 am
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Friday, 13th June
Replies: 19
Views: 2109

Re: Spoilers for Friday, 13th June

Craig Beevers wrote:Hmm that one was quite easy as far as 4 large go.
Oh well, I still missed it!

Craig did you not get UNHOLIER??!
by Julian Fell
Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:25 am
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Thursday 12th June 2008
Replies: 31
Views: 4465

Re: Spoilers for Thursday 12th June 2008

Craig did you miss anything when you were watching the game at home? Been thinking a bit more about David's performance - he beat me (watching at home) on 4 different rounds and I think there are only two other occasions that's happened to me in the 15-round era... ok he missed a few things but it's...
by Julian Fell
Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:49 am
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: COOT '08 Official Enrolment Thread
Replies: 64
Views: 8708

Re: COOT '08 Official Enrolment Thread

Can I just say that the atmosphere, the ethos, at Cambridge University in exam term is, mentally, the most unhealthy environment I've ever experienced, and I'm amazed that more people don't collapse under its strain. Richard, if you dropped out I don't blame you, and I wholeheartedly agree that it's...
by Julian Fell
Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:19 am
Forum: Countdown - Current recaps
Topic: [20081306] Friday's game, 13th June 2008, S58 G114
Replies: 10
Views: 2079

Re: [20081306] Friday's game, 13th June 2008, S58 G114

Yeah I agree with what Paul H and Dave have said; I don't think there can be hard and fast rules about which "suboptimal" (good term!) words to include for every round, but definitely disagree with Martin's stance of "maximums and nothing else". I mean for example, for last Wedne...
by Julian Fell
Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:02 am
Forum: Countdown - Current recaps
Topic: Wednesday 11 June 2008, Series 58, Episode 112
Replies: 3
Views: 1150

Re: Wednesday 11 June 2008, Series 58, Episode 112

Adam, as mentioned in the spoilers thread, there is an 8 available in round 3 - POTENCES. It's not listed in CountMax, but it's definitely fine. So final max score for the whole game is 132.
by Julian Fell
Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:28 am
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Thursday 12th June 2008
Replies: 31
Views: 4465

Re: Spoilers for Thursday 12th June 2008

David - really, really well done for today. Although you got a relatively low score, I thought you coped exceptionally well with a load of horrible selections (on both letters and numbers). I know I couldn't've coped with those sort of selections in my own series QF - how much harder have they got i...
by Julian Fell
Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:01 am
Forum: Countdown - General
Topic: CountMax errors
Replies: 727
Views: 91433

Re: CountMax errors

To Joseph: don't have any concerns about using CountMax for whatever you're doing. Errors in it OTHER THAN those relating to mass noun plurals, such as those mentioned by Howard and Jason above (which aren't really errors at all, given that the mass nouns rule is completely up in the air, and that D...
by Julian Fell
Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:42 pm
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: Countdown in Nottingham- 26th July
Replies: 99
Views: 12036

Re: Countdown in Nottingham- 26th July

Interesting... the both-players-not-written-it-down thing happened twice in my octochamp run, both on numbers games, though on each occasion my opponent and I had different solutions so it didn't matter. I believe there's an informal, unwritten rule on the show that they'll let a contestant off once...
by Julian Fell
Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:44 pm
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: Countdown in Nottingham- 26th July
Replies: 99
Views: 12036

Re: Countdown in Nottingham- 26th July

Just wondering, in Bristol-style events, what do you do if several people in the room say they've got the same word/numbers solution, not written down? Do you just trust people to be honest? (in which case, just as well Jeffrey Hansford's not signed up...) Also Ben, how are you doing the choosing of...
by Julian Fell
Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:33 pm
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: COOT '08 Official Enrolment Thread
Replies: 64
Views: 8708

Re: COOT '08 Official Enrolment Thread

Jono what're you thinking of in terms of format for this COOT - 9-round or 15-round? (I hope you'll make it a 15-round Final, at least...)