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... Incidentally, I was convinced that when Julian Fell famously lost to Graham Nash it was because he'd had OPALINES disallowed. Turns out it was GAMBIERS, though I'm pretty sure there was quite a debate about that.


It used to list mass noun groups which may be pluralised, but not any more. They ...

... that can be pluralised? I'm pretty sure, for example, that minerals (granites?) can be. Incidentally, I was convinced that when Julian Fell famously lost to Graham Nash it was because he'd had OPALINES disallowed. Turns out it was GAMBIERS, though I'm pretty sure there was quite a debate about that.

... 146) 18/12/02
Chris Wills 113 - 111 David Williams (Close and crucial CoC game) 7/1/03
Graham Nash 120 - 109 Julian Fell (Fell's only defeat, gambiers) 21/1/03
Mark Tournoff 92 - 89 Paul Gallen (Grand final, late crucial conundrum solve) 17/12/04
Sue Drinkwater 71 - 85 Tanmay Dixit (8-year-old ...

... 146) 18/12/02
Chris Wills 113 - 111 David Williams (Close and crucial CoC game) 7/1/03
Graham Nash 120 - 109 Julian Fell (Fell's only defeat, gambiers) 21/1/03
Mark Tournoff 92 - 89 Paul Gallen (Grand final, late crucial conundrum solve) 17/12/04
Sue Drinkwater 71 - 85 Tanmay Dixit (8-year-old ...

... to find it.

And then there is Graham Nash v Julian Fell in the quarter finals of CoC X, which Graham beat the odds to win and contained the gambiers round. Though the wiki seems to have just gone down, curtailing this post. Well, I was really just going to add the link anyway. Graham obviously ...

Ray Wilding wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 11:55 am

Tom S wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 11:54 am BTW the OED accepts GAMBIERS, but the app max only had MIRAGES....

GAMBIER is a mass noun: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/gambier

oops

Tom S wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 11:54 am BTW the OED accepts GAMBIERS, but the app max only had MIRAGES....

GAMBIER is a mass noun: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/gambier

Tom S wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 11:54 am BTW the OED accepts GAMBIERS, but the app max only had MIRAGES....

It's a dodgy one, apterous doesn't allow it.

BTW the OED accepts GAMBIERS, but the app max only had MIRAGES....

Elliott Mellor wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 11:34 am Now the real question here is, are we allowing GAMBIERS?

Admittedly app got something lower than that, but it is not as accurate as Lexplorer...

Now the real question here is, are we allowing GAMBIERS?

... times. But I still have great admiration for Julian Fell, who had clearly read the dictionary (his dodgy words were valid, even non-Scrabble ones), but also knew what they all meant. He certainly knew what the infamous GAMBIERS meant, which made it all the more unfortunate that Susie disallowed it.

What was that disallowed word that Julien Fell submitted in the game he lost? GAMBIERS I think it was.

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Enjoy the show.

Round 1: G M S A I R O B E

C1: MIRAGES (7)
C2: grimace
DC: GAMES (5) ROBES (5)
OT: GAMBIERS (8)
Score: 7–0 (max 8)

Round 2: R D P O E Y G P U

C1: GROUPED (7)
C2: GROUPED (7)
Score: 14–7 (max 15)

Round 3: T N S O A H E S T

C1 ...

... UNITES (6)
DC: DESTINY (7)
OT: DENSITY (7)
Score: 6–6 (max 7)

Round 2: G O M B R A E I S

C1: ARMIES (6)
C2: soaring
DC: EMBARGO (7)
OT: GAMBIERS (8)
Score: 12–6 (max 15)

Round 3: J C T A E L M O S

C1: LOCATES (7)
C2: JOSTLE (6)
DC: MALTOSE (7) LACTOSE (7)
OT: ALECOST (7) TALCOSE (7 ...

... 6) DOTARD (6) THORIA (6) TOROID (6)
Score: 71–34 (max 105)

Round 13: B M S A I E G R S

C1: GASSIER (7)
C2: GASSIER (7)
DC: IMAGERS (7)
OT: GAMBIERS (8)
Score: 78–41 (max 113)

Round 14: 25, 50, 2, 5, 4, 5. Target: 955.

C1: 955. 50x5x4-25x2+5 (10)
C2: 927.
Score: 88–41 (max 123)

Round 15: B I ...

... exactly when they relaxed the rules about pluralising mass nouns, which of course happened without a change of dictionary. Julian Fell's famous GAMBIERS was in Champion of Champions, and I think that was the first appearance of the new rule, so it wouldn't have applied to this series, but I couldn ...

... to be sensible with things
ROADSIDE?
The biggest problem we've had with some of the words is remembering what we did with them last time round. GAMBIERS is easy enough, but some of the other words are not that memorable and it can be 6 months before you are faced with the dilemma again. I used to ...

... something that is clearly wrong. The biggest problem we've had with some of the words is remembering what we did with them last time round. GAMBIERS is easy enough, but some of the other words are not that memorable and it can be 6 months before you are faced with the dilemma again. I used to ...

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Enjoy the show.

Round 1: S B R M A E O G I

C1: BARGES (6)
C2: EMBARGO (7)
OT: gambiers (according to CountMax!)
Score: 0–7 (max 7)

Round 2: T G D N U A E S L

C1: TANGLES (7)
C2: TANGLED (7)
DC: UNSALTED (8)
Score: 7–14 (max 15 ...

Perhaps the biggest decision ever was the disallowing of Julian Fell's GAMBIERS. I'm sure Damian told us that was Susie, who was concerned enough to get second opinions from Oxford, so I imagine true decisions are hers. But still no-one asks her if she can dance. (I'm a day behind. I haven't caught up ...

Matthew Green wrote:
However, while domestic titles were easy to come by, the big one eluded him under suspicious circumstances (Was there a drug fuelled hooker binge before the final?/is GAMBIERS a word?)

Somehow managed to miss this thread first time round, quality entertainment.

Cheers for both of those and yes - SEALANTS is one that can go either way I agree. It's about as unclear a case as you could ask for, putting GAMBIERS, CRYOLITES etc. to one side.

... because it happened so often) so never said anything. Either that or they were too scared!

Anyway Damian I'm not specifically arguing about GAMBIERS - I never have, although I may jokingly have referred to it from time to time; I just don't like the mass nouns rule in general, with the ...

... because it happened so often) so never said anything. Either that or they were too scared!

Anyway Damian I'm not specifically arguing about GAMBIERS - I never have, although I may jokingly have referred to it from time to time; I just don't like the mass nouns rule in general, with the ...

... always gets out of the same side of the bed, Julian. And for what its worth, being father to 4 boys at home, i dont get out of bed in the morning, its usually the middle of the bloody night.

LEISURES would be a 'no' on the show, just as GAMBIERS was. Let it go mate. LET IT GO ............. :mrgreen:

Corby wrote:

Corby wrote:They gave Tony 7 points for TINKLER? WTF? It's not in

HELLO!!!!????

DOES NOBODY CARE ABOUT THIS INJUSTICE EXCEPT ME?!

gambiers x

HELLO!!???

DOES NOBODY CARE ABOUT THIS... oh forget it

( )

... compassionate.

which possibly contributed to his downfall.

What downfall? He's lost one game ever - due to a very contentious decision over 'gambiers'. If that had been allowed he'd have won the game and probably the whole C of C.

he seemed to be more worried that Graham was going to put the ...

... ENDGATES, TAURINE, SOLATIUM, SEVICHE, ARTESIAN, DUKEDOM, VALORISED, AGRION, GAMBIER, DAIMYOS.

Doesn't look an awful lot wrong with that to me.

Uh hum, I think Julian offered GAMBIERS not GAMBIER. I believe I'm the only ever contestant to offer the word GAMBIER - but yeah, cheers Julian! :D

Kirk

Yes still pissed off about GAMBIERS, I lie awake every night thinking about the injustice of it :D

Seriously though, I have to disagree with Charlie - please don't allow all mass noun plurals Damian, I've always thought word games should have some connection with how words are used in real life ...

Yes still pissed off about GAMBIERS, I lie awake every night thinking about the injustice of it :D

Seriously though, I have to disagree with Charlie - please don't allow all mass noun plurals Damian, I've always thought word games should have some connection with how words are used in real life ...

... Maybe we'll scrap the whole rule from next series and allow all mass noun plurals. Its very difficult to keep up with it. You can read the definition for a mass noun one day and disallow it but on a different day it seems to be acceptable.

You're not still pissed off at gambiers are you :mrgreen:

... titles were easy to come by, the big one eluded him under suspicious circumstances (Was there a drug fuelled hooker binge before the final?/is GAMBIERS a word?) and he passes into folklore as the best player never to win the top prize.

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