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- Sun May 22, 2016 11:18 am
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Friday 20 May 2016 (Series 74, Prelim 71)
- Replies: 8
- Views: 3145
Re: Spoilers for Friday 20 May 2016 (Series 74, Prelim 71)
I find it so annoying that he never picks 4 large like he would on apterous, he has enough of an advantage against non-apterites as it is, without the obvious point grabbing 1 large picks. Well done you scored over 100 against a non-apterite Thumbs up Surely picking 4 large would give him an even b...
- Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:27 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: EU Referendum
- Replies: 182
- Views: 54750
Re: EU Referendum
How much did you try to have on? The market for politics bets on William Hill is probably quite small so very low limits!Paul Worsley wrote:Odds Comparison gave 10/1 for a 2016 Cameron exit at William Hill in February, but when I tried to put a bet on their website it didn't allow it.
- Tue Mar 29, 2016 6:24 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: EU Referendum
- Replies: 182
- Views: 54750
Re: EU Referendum
I was thinking about this again today (aside from the immediate need to implement Proportional Representation, it's one of my major concerns). So, I was wondering if I could sort of back-of-an-envelope calculate how the vote will turn out, based on the results of 2015's General Election (which I al...
- Mon Mar 28, 2016 8:52 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: US Politics
- Replies: 15
- Views: 3798
Re: US Politics
- What happened in Washington? I definitely read that there are 101 delegates, and Google tells me the vote was 72.7% Bernie Sanders vs 27.1% Hillary Clinton. If they're awarded proportionally, then I make that 74 delegates for Sanders and 27 for Clinton, but the result was 25 for Sanders and 9 for...
- Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:56 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: US Politics
- Replies: 15
- Views: 3798
Re: US Politics
I've been following the whole US election as closely as I can, but there's a lot of stuff I'm not understanding. So I'm hoping one of our American readers (I know we have some) or anyone else who knows what they're on about can explain some of the following: - How do the caucuses work? As soon as I...
- Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:46 pm
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: Previous appearances?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 5364
Re: Previous appearances?
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- Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:58 am
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: If all of us were to meet...
- Replies: 22
- Views: 10437
Re: If all of us were to meet...
https://www.gofundme.com/4kr35e9d Let's make this happen!
- Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:57 am
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers For Monday February 8th 2016
- Replies: 7
- Views: 3276
Re: Spoilers For Monday February 8th 2016
PARIGOT is listed as a noun so she'd have to allow the plural.Paul Erdunast wrote:Would you allow PARIGOTS... and more importantly would susie allow it?
Intenders/indenters
- Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:25 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers For Monday January 25th 2016
- Replies: 12
- Views: 3460
Re: Spoilers For Monday January 25th 2016
Yeah me tooPhilip Wilson wrote:Having now missed it twice in a few days I need to write down "ugliest + o = eulogist" 10 times before CoBristol!
- Sun Jan 24, 2016 12:53 am
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: CoC Grand Final Spoilers For Friday January 22nd 2016
- Replies: 69
- Views: 20569
Re: CoC Grand Final Spoilers For Friday January 22nd 2016
That earthman case is just bizarre. Neither definition could have made sense in the Middle ages, and yet it has a spelling and earliest use from then. It would've made sense as "inhabitant of the planet Earth", even though it's mainly used in science fiction nowadays. I found a text from ...
- Sun Jan 24, 2016 12:11 am
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: CoC Grand Final Spoilers For Friday January 22nd 2016
- Replies: 69
- Views: 20569
Re: CoC Grand Final Spoilers For Friday January 22nd 2016
That earthman case is just bizarre. Neither definition could have made sense in the Middle ages, and yet it has a spelling and earliest use from then. It would've made sense as "inhabitant of the planet Earth", even though it's mainly used in science fiction nowadays. I found a text from ...
- Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:17 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: CoC Grand Final Spoilers For Friday January 22nd 2016
- Replies: 69
- Views: 20569
Re: CoC Grand Final Spoilers For Friday January 22nd 2016
Rachel: "Going 1 large to try and force a crucial which Dylan is notoriously good at, good luck with those tactics" - at 7 points behind a crucial conundrum was the best case scenario!
- Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:34 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: CoC Grand Final Spoilers For Friday January 22nd 2016
- Replies: 69
- Views: 20569
Re: CoC Grand Final Spoilers For Friday January 22nd 2016
Absolutely fantastic game and tournament to have taken part in, so thanks first of all to the Countdown Team for inviting me and making this possible. And thanks Damian for letting me reappear on TV - not even in my wildest dreams did I think I'd go from losing my first heat game to being a CoC fina...
- Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:40 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: CoC Semi-Final 2 Spoilers For Thursday January 21st 2016
- Replies: 13
- Views: 6103
Re: CoC Semi-Final 2 Spoilers For Thursday January 21st 2016
Can you watch Countdown live on Channel 4's website or anything? I have pissing forgotten to watch everything every day. Yeah you can watch at this link http://www.channel4.com/now/c4. Thanks all for the comments so far, though I don't think I'm one of the best two contestants in this CoC - Giles w...
- Wed Jan 20, 2016 4:13 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: CoC Semi-Final 1 Spoilers For Wednesday January 20th 2016
- Replies: 12
- Views: 6080
- Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:10 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: CoC Quarter-Final 4 Spoilers For Tuesday January 19th 2016
- Replies: 11
- Views: 4726
Re: CoC Quarter-Final 4 Spoilers For Tuesday January 19th 2016
I saw REPOURING and decided it was bollocks. When Dan declared 9, I instantly knew it would be good though, and decided he was DEFINITELY trying to throw Mark off declaring it too by being all "ooh, I really don't know, it's so risky" shit. Anyone else get that? I knew that there were loa...
- Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:28 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: CoC Quarter-Final 3 Spoilers For Monday January 18th 2016
- Replies: 53
- Views: 9701
Re: CoC Quarter-Final 3 Spoilers For Monday January 18th 2016
Out of interest, what did Jen say that you guys thought was particularly spoilerish?
- Mon Jan 18, 2016 6:04 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: CoC Quarter-Final 3 Spoilers For Monday January 18th 2016
- Replies: 53
- Views: 9701
Re: CoC Quarter-Final 3 Spoilers For Monday January 18th 2016
Great game. I did think that maybe Callum was a bit below par in a couple of rounds but Jen was very good throughout so a worthy winner regardless. Perhaps it was the sarcastic comment Jen made at the beginning about there not being enough "young geeky males" on Countdown. True, there has...
- Sun Jan 17, 2016 8:34 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: How many UK cities have you been to?
- Replies: 43
- Views: 17439
Re: How many UK cities have you been to?
England: 35/50
Scotland: 7/7
Wales: 2/6
NI: 0/5
Total: 44/68
Scotland: 7/7
Wales: 2/6
NI: 0/5
Total: 44/68
- Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:14 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: How many countries have you been to?
- Replies: 172
- Views: 96270
Re: How many countries have you been to?
UK (England, Scotland, Wales)
France, Belgium, Luxembourg (brief petrol/coffee stop, definitely over 10 minutes), the Netherlands, Germany, Spain, Portugal, Austria, Czech Republic, Poland, Bulgaria, Turkey, Sweden, Estonia, Finland, Russia, USA, St. Kitts & Nevis, Brazil. 20 countries in total.
France, Belgium, Luxembourg (brief petrol/coffee stop, definitely over 10 minutes), the Netherlands, Germany, Spain, Portugal, Austria, Czech Republic, Poland, Bulgaria, Turkey, Sweden, Estonia, Finland, Russia, USA, St. Kitts & Nevis, Brazil. 20 countries in total.
- Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:22 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: CoC Preliminary 7 Spoilers For Tuesday January 12th 2016
- Replies: 23
- Views: 7972
Re: CoC Preliminary 7 Spoilers For Tuesday January 12th 2016
Round 5... Me in the audience: PIONEERS is there but Dan will go for ISOPRENE, because, you know, it's Dan. Dan: PIONEERS. Me: Well. A complete misjudgement on my part there. Later in the pub... Dan: I just realised I could have had ISOPRENE! :D I actually had RIPIENOS written down, not PIONEERS, b...
- Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:05 am
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: CoC Preliminary 6 Spoilers For Monday January 11th 2016
- Replies: 17
- Views: 6196
Re: CoC Preliminary 6 Spoilers For Monday January 11th 2016
A few of us noticed at the time of filming, didn't think it would make it to air though!Philip Wilson wrote:Anyone else notice Nick said today's match is the last before the quarter-finals?!
- Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:57 pm
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: How many Numbers puzzles are there in total?
- Replies: 134
- Views: 42426
Re: How many Numbers puzzles are there in total?
Do you think, for example, there is a selection of numbers for which you can always get 10 points, regardless of the target? This has come up before and the answer's yes. From memory maybe 100, 1, 3, 5, 7, 9. That is just one of 1,226 selections which can be maxed with every possible target from 10...
- Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:25 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: CoC Preliminary 2 Spoilers For Tuesday January 5th 2016
- Replies: 17
- Views: 7291
Re: CoC Preliminary 2 Spoilers For Tuesday January 5th 2016
Thanks all for the kind comments! It felt great to be back in the chair (be it challenger's or champion's), and luckily one of the 9s I'd crammed into my brain the night before popped up. And a great play by Heather going for UNREALIST! I remembered OUTRAKES since when I first saw it on a word list...
- Fri Jan 08, 2016 6:59 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: CoC Preliminary 5 Spoilers For Friday January 8th 2016
- Replies: 24
- Views: 6176
Re: CoC Preliminary 5 Spoilers For Friday January 8th 2016
50x6 = 300, then you can do 100/(75-25) for the 2 to add onJon Corby wrote: Is there another way to make the 302 other than the standard 4L way? George's little smirk as 302 came out made me lol. Probably not what he was hoping for though!
- Fri Jan 08, 2016 4:52 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: CoC Preliminary 5 Spoilers For Friday January 8th 2016
- Replies: 24
- Views: 6176
Re: CoC Preliminary 5 Spoilers For Friday January 8th 2016
It was used at some point in the 30th BC, not sure exactly which game it was though.Johnny Canuck wrote:Got the conundrum quickly as, uniquely among those we've seen so far in CoC, it was used before -- anyone know when?
- Wed Jan 06, 2016 2:29 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: COLIN XII- Countdown in Lincoln, 30-31 January 2016
- Replies: 132
- Views: 44031
Re: COLIN XII- Countdown in Lincoln, 30-31 January 2016
Hello - there is a spare bed going for the Friday and Saturday nights. £25 in total, payable to danmccolm@hotmail.com. The only catch is you have to share with Andy Platt
- Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:22 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Who do you think is going to win Champion of Champions?
- Replies: 5
- Views: 2379
Re: Who do you think is going to win Champion of Champions?
Someone should ask Martin Sinclair for his views.
- Fri Dec 18, 2015 10:41 am
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: Countdowners in the news
- Replies: 243
- Views: 145631
Re: Countdowners in the news
They've used the photoshopped GANDISEEG photo again, brilliant.
- Sat Nov 14, 2015 4:53 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: C4C/apto/Countdown Dreams
- Replies: 759
- Views: 469459
Re: C4C/apto/Countdown Dreams
In my dream last night, I was losing to Paul James in my CoC game - I then saw Jack Worsley's face beaming down on me (kind of like a vision from God), who said "PICK THREE VOWELS" in a really boomy voice. I picked three vowels and ended up winning. I thanked Jack after the game, but he di...
- Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:03 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers For Monday November 2nd 2015
- Replies: 8
- Views: 3512
Re: Spoilers For Monday November 2nd 2015
Not valid on apterous - interesting one because the entry for ACEDIA doesn't specify that it's a mass noun, but it's given as another term for ACCIDIE, which is listed as a mass noun.James Robinson wrote: Well, I was thinking ACEDIAS possibly in round 10, which I think is good......
- Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:13 am
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: The restaurant rule
- Replies: 17
- Views: 3928
Re: The restaurant rule
Ravioli (like spaghetti, panini, broccoli) is singular in English though. SPAGHETTI is also listed as a plural noun but "Can I have two spaghetti, please" sounds strange to me. But surely it's about whether it's listed as a singular or plural noun, not how we use it. The dictionary is sup...
- Tue Oct 20, 2015 2:44 pm
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: The restaurant rule
- Replies: 17
- Views: 3928
Re: The restaurant rule
Ravioli (like spaghetti, panini, broccoli) is singular in English though. SPAGHETTI is also listed as a plural noun but "Can I have two spaghetti, please" sounds strange to me.
- Fri Sep 04, 2015 6:01 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Friday September 4th 2015 (S73 P46)
- Replies: 18
- Views: 6192
Re: Spoilers for Friday September 4th 2015 (S73 P46)
UNPADLOCK R10 Is that one of the new words? I saw that when DC offered PADLOCK leaving the U and N. It's not on Apterous so I presume it's new. It is new, I saw PADLOCK + UN and checked it because loads of new words have been added, and to my surprise it was in! Makes me wonder what other silly wor...
- Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:53 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Friday September 4th 2015 (S73 P46)
- Replies: 18
- Views: 6192
Re: Spoilers for Friday September 4th 2015 (S73 P46)
UNPADLOCK R10
- Thu Sep 03, 2015 10:36 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Thursday September 3rd 2015 (S73 P45)
- Replies: 11
- Views: 3764
- Thu Aug 27, 2015 7:42 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Wednesday August 26th 2015 (S73 P40)
- Replies: 9
- Views: 3497
Re: Spoilers for Wednesday August 26th 2015 (S73 P40)
See this discussion . Recently a large number of new (and old?) words have been added to ODO without any of the usual notes which tell you what the inflections are if they differ from the standard -ed, -ing etc. Cheers Graeme, hadn't seen all that. I wonder how difficult it would be to create a dic...
- Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:32 pm
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: memorising words
- Replies: 7
- Views: 3456
Re: memorising words
My advice would be not to play the Countdown app as the dictionary probably isn't 100% accurate, head over to apterous.org and enjoy unlimited games of Countdown with an accurate dictionary for just £20 a year. As for remembering words, you could make flashcards with the scramble of the word you're ...
- Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:17 pm
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: Best ever contestants
- Replies: 513
- Views: 409993
Re: Best ever contestants
Quite a few good-looking young men in this top 10, Tracey, any reason?Tracey Anne Mills wrote:My Top 10 is
1.Jen Steadman
2.Dylan Taylor
3.Jack Hurst
4.Edward McCullagh
5.Andy Platt
6.Jonathan Rawlinson
7.Adam Gillard
8.Jack Worsley
9.Giles Hutchings
10.Conor Travers
- Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:54 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Friday February 27th 2015 (S72 P40)
- Replies: 9
- Views: 2893
Re: Spoilers for Friday February 27th 2015 (S72 P40)
Oh bloody hell, posted MICRONISE in the wrong thread
- Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:07 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Friday February 27th 2015 (S72 P40)
- Replies: 9
- Views: 2893
Re: Spoilers for Friday February 27th 2015 (S72 P40)
Josh Hurst found MICRONISE in the ISOMERIC round, must be new to ODO?
- Tue Feb 10, 2015 4:00 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Tuesday February 10th 2015 (S72 P27)
- Replies: 14
- Views: 4620
- Tue Feb 10, 2015 3:08 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Tuesday February 10th 2015 (S72 P27)
- Replies: 14
- Views: 4620
Re: Spoilers for Tuesday February 10th 2015 (S72 P27)
RUBEOLA if there was an ETony Atkins wrote:But there is a beater in that round...Gavin Chipper wrote:LABOUR was the standard method alternative to ARBOUR.
- Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:28 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Grand Final Spoilers For Friday December 19th 2014
- Replies: 23
- Views: 7672
Re: Grand Final Spoilers For Friday December 19th 2014
Yes, that was there, I didn't write it down because I thought it was a 7, oops! Just goes to show what nerves can do!Miriam Nussbaum wrote:This game was super exciting and fun to watch! Both Dan and Antoinette played great.
ELEGIACS in that one round, I think.
- Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:36 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Grand Final Spoilers For Friday December 19th 2014
- Replies: 23
- Views: 7672
Re: Grand Final Spoilers For Friday December 19th 2014
If Wednesday's max game was a 147 break, that 840 6 small was being faced with a straight red and chipping the cue ball off the table.
- Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:01 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers For Wednesday December 17th 2014
- Replies: 24
- Views: 7181
Re: Spoilers For Wednesday December 17th 2014
Channel 4 need a new subtitler. We've already had "VALITA" and "PUTTIE" when it should be VALETA and PATTIE^. I actually declared VELETA (there was only one A in the selection), but VALETA is also valid. Thanks everyone else for the nice comments so far, and well played George!
- Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:33 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers For Monday December 15th 2014
- Replies: 34
- Views: 8772
Re: Spoilers For Monday December 15th 2014
FLORUIT is listed as a noun, so FLORUITS would have to be accepted. And saying that FLORUITED should be disallowed because it is already past tense in Latin is applying Latin grammar to English!
- Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:11 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers For Wednesday December 10th 2014
- Replies: 33
- Views: 8536
Re: Spoilers For Wednesday December 10th 2014
At least I waited until after my last heat game had been broadcast to ask that!
- Mon Dec 15, 2014 1:47 am
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers For Wednesday December 10th 2014
- Replies: 33
- Views: 8536
Re: Spoilers For Wednesday December 10th 2014
My invalid declaration of logboats^ brought to end to my scoring run - before that round, I had scored in 102 consecutive rounds.
- Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:18 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers For Wednesday December 10th 2014
- Replies: 33
- Views: 8536
Re: Spoilers For Wednesday December 10th 2014
As Tony correctly points out, there was a standard method for the 4L - I was overcomplicating it by looking for a route via 175*5 or 125*7.
- Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:53 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Who Will Win Series 71? (Spoilers Included)
- Replies: 20
- Views: 6498
Re: Who Will Win Series 71? (Spoilers Included)
I don't think any of those will win Series 70
- Wed Dec 03, 2014 7:18 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Wednesday December 3rd 2014 (S71 P99)
- Replies: 26
- Views: 6127
Re: Spoilers for Wednesday December 3rd 2014 (S71 P99)
They only film for 3 or 4 days of the month, Antoinette was at the end of one month's block and continued her run in the next block.Dave Preece wrote:Why?
- Wed Dec 03, 2014 5:16 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Wednesday December 3rd 2014 (S71 P99)
- Replies: 26
- Views: 6127
Re: Spoilers for Wednesday December 3rd 2014 (S71 P99)
There was indeed a break in the recordings.
- Tue Oct 21, 2014 6:55 am
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: Ask Graeme?
- Replies: 1741
- Views: 754125
Re: Ask Graeme?
What is the highest number of consecutive rounds a contestant has scored in?
- Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:16 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers For Monday October 20th 2014
- Replies: 7
- Views: 2752
Re: Spoilers For Monday October 20th 2014
I didn't declare it, but I told Susie I was thinking of it
- Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:57 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers For Monday October 20th 2014
- Replies: 7
- Views: 2752
Re: Spoilers For Monday October 20th 2014
Chickened FANNER, but overall very happy with that performance and with my octorun!
- Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:25 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Thursday October 16th 2014 (S71 P67)
- Replies: 12
- Views: 3456
Re: Spoilers for Thursday October 16th 2014 (S71 P67)
Must've been a good performance if I beat Tony Atkins!
- Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:19 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Wednesday October 15th 2014 (S71 P66)
- Replies: 15
- Views: 6389
Re: Spoilers for Wednesday October 15th 2014 (S71 P66)
I thought about going 4L, but I decided to stick with 1L because I was already in the lead at that point.Martin Long wrote:INAMORATO was an absolutely awesome spot.
Another excellent performance Dan, well done! (even though I was hoping you would go 4L in round 3:D)
- Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:00 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Wednesday October 15th 2014 (S71 P66)
- Replies: 15
- Views: 6389
Re: Spoilers for Wednesday October 15th 2014 (S71 P66)
I did indeed get something to eat before this show (a sandwich).Tony Atkins wrote:I guess Dan got something to eat before the show as he looked better and played marvelously. I was in fact a
little shocked when I beat him on the last two words rounds, but brilliant performance all the same.
- Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:00 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Wednesday October 15th 2014 (S71 P66)
- Replies: 15
- Views: 6389
Re: Spoilers for Wednesday October 15th 2014 (S71 P66)
Excellent game throughout. Not sure what the Gevin scoring record is but 128 can't be far off. Pity about those two missed maxes at the end. I don't know if it was a max game up to then but it's always more frustrating if the misses come in the end rounds. It was a max game up until then, but I'm n...