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- Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:29 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Wednesday 13th February 2019 (Series 80, Prelim 16)
- Replies: 14
- Views: 694
- Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:46 am
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Friday 1 February 2019 (Series 80, Prelim 8)
- Replies: 7
- Views: 1000
Spoilers for Friday 1 February 2019 (Series 80, Prelim 8)
Recap will have to wait until tonight unless someone else wants to do it first (they're welcome to) -- going to lunch with company today.
- Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:27 am
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for 28th January 2019
- Replies: 9
- Views: 1146
Re: Spoilers for 28th January 2019
The "error" was that DC suggested TOMGIRL, which turned out to be premium-only and not added to Lex yet. Going to remove now.
- Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:42 am
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Tuesday 29th January 2019 (series 80, prelim 5)
- Replies: 8
- Views: 990
Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 29th January 2019 (series 80, prelim 5)
First octochamp sorted. Two new contestants. Can we get another run like last series? Let's find out If Adam plays like he did today, despite the nervy start, then I would say that a double octochamp run would not be out of question. Unholiest was a cracking 9 and Carriage was a good spot too. Also...
- Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:36 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Thursday 24th January 2019 (Series 80, prelim 2)
- Replies: 2
- Views: 745
Re: Spoilers for Thursday 24th January 2019 (Series 80, prelim 2)
I'd say he's more likely to on Monday tbh.
- Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:57 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Friday 18th January 2019 (COC XV, SF 1)
- Replies: 19
- Views: 2093
Re: Spoilers for Friday 18th January 2019 (COC XV, SF 1)
You know you're reaching the critical stages of the CoC when Susie starts needing to define the conundrum answers. (This one is still unpencilled too!)
- Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:09 am
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Tuesday 15th January 2019 (COC XV, QF 2)
- Replies: 8
- Views: 1087
Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 15th January 2019 (COC XV, QF 2)
I think that one actually is in Ascension -- mind you, I still only got it because I remember setting it myself.Elliott Mellor wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:33 pmCan honestly say that is the toughest conundrum I think I have ever seen - would not have got that in 100 million years!
- Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:25 am
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Thursday 12th July 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 12)
- Replies: 7
- Views: 2015
Re: Spoilers for Thursday 12th July 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 12)
DHELIMUGS in Series 70 also. Curiouser and curiouser.James Robinson wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:39 pmDHELIBONG as the scramble for the conundrum...., am I missing a joke, or does no-one know how to spell DELHI??![]()
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- Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:27 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Tuesday 8th January 2019 (COC XV, game 5)
- Replies: 14
- Views: 1784
Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 8th January 2019 (COC XV, game 5)
Signature checks out.
- Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:05 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Thursday 3 January 2019 (COC XV, game 2)
- Replies: 8
- Views: 1167
Re: Spoilers for Thursday 3 January 2019 (COC XV, game 2)
Joy! Looks like I'm stuck at work over lunch hour today. Anyone else can do the recap if they're up for it - otherwise I'll wikify it tonight.
- Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:07 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Wednesday 2 January 2019 (COC XV, game 1)
- Replies: 16
- Views: 1924
Re: Spoilers for Wednesday 2 January 2019 (COC XV, game 1)
Apto-magic for the Wynn!! Great start to the tourney despite the subpar max score and commiserations to Phil for being within striking distance for so long.
Got 828 in the fourth numbers game via (5*5-2)*9*4 I believe.
Got 828 in the fourth numbers game via (5*5-2)*9*4 I believe.
- Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:29 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Friday 14th December 2018 (Series 79, QF 2)
- Replies: 8
- Views: 1302
Re: Spoilers for Friday 14th December 2018 (Series 79, QF 2)
Or you could garnish DC's FETA to make FETATION.Rhys Benjamin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:16 pmPATIENT as an equaller in Round 1, surely? Can't believe the studio missed that.
- Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:04 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Friday 7th December 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 116)
- Replies: 9
- Views: 1402
Spoilers for Friday 7th December 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 116)
Today's recap is up for grabs if anyone wants to make it this afternoon! Not gonna have time to 'cap it up within an hour. For the rest of the world, Mark Jeary gears up for game four today -- and due to the layout of the series leaderboard, it's all the way to Series 80 or nothing if he hopes for a...
- Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:35 am
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Series 79 Finals Predictions (Contains Spoilers!)
- Replies: 23
- Views: 3021
Re: Series 79 Finals Predictions (Contains Spoilers!)
I'm actually quite impressed regarding how quiet everyone on here managed to be about Robin's absence, with the finals presumably having been planned four months ago or so.
- Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:39 am
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Thursday 29th November 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 110)
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1065
Re: Spoilers for Thursday 29th November 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 110)
If Aptery is indeed correlated with octochampdom, Apterite Sam Reilly may give us a ninth, but he'd have to start either tomorrow or Monday to make the S79 deadline.
- Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:09 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Wednesday 28th November 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 109)
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1055
Re: Spoilers for Wednesday 28th November 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 109)
STOWED can take a preceding RE-.
- Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:22 pm
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: Saturday Shows
- Replies: 2
- Views: 975
Re: Saturday Shows
Now that I have a full-time job I'd have to say that a Saturday slot would be quite convenient! They managed six-day-a-week broadcasts for several months in Series 54 (early 2006) -- does anyone know why the Saturday show was put there?
- Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:53 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Thursday 22nd November (Series 79, Prelim 105)
- Replies: 10
- Views: 2070
Re: Spoilers for Thursday 22nd November (Series 79, Prelim 105)
...of his second term, in fact.Thomas Carey wrote: ↑Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:51 am7th president of the United States of America Andrew Jackson is back for game three!!!!
- Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:39 am
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Thursday 15th November 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 100)
- Replies: 8
- Views: 1292
Re: Spoilers for Thursday 15th November 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 100)
When was the last series where a 7-time champion didn't make the finals? Was it Series 47? As a wiki/Countdown history geek I should totally remember this... guess I've gotta turn in my card now 

- Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:20 am
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: Things normal people normally own but you don't own for some reason
- Replies: 64
- Views: 5402
Re: Things normal people normally own but you don't own for some reason
A car.
Social skills.
A pizza cutter.
Social skills.
A pizza cutter.
- Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:26 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: C4C/apto/Countdown Dreams
- Replies: 599
- Views: 142316
Re: C4C/apto/Countdown Dreams
So last night I dreamt I was watching Countdown with the intent of recapping it, and things got... interesting. The person in the champion's chair was a male Apterite and clearly part of the 900-club/CoC material crowd, and he was facing off against an elderly woman named Debra Nycholls (spelling on...
- Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:57 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Thursday 8th November 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 95)
- Replies: 3
- Views: 925
Re: Spoilers for Thursday 8th November 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 95)
CECIL has been repeating a LONG sequence of Martin May's targets -- won't be long before the repeated sequence hits itself if this keeps up.
- Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:06 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Tuesday 6th November 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 93)
- Replies: 11
- Views: 1370
Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 6th November 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 93)
You can come back after 5 years. Zarte did. I think that is dependant on how the opponent does, as Zarte lost to a CoC champ, but Alan seems capable, so we will see how he does, as if he octos, that may help Chris out, but I am not sure as to whether that is an official or unofficial stance. Don't ...
- Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:34 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Thursday 1st November 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 90))
- Replies: 6
- Views: 1205
Re: Spoilers for Thursday 1st November 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 90))
Can't get any details for today's show at all -- therefore, anyone else who has the details can go ahead and do the recap, I don't mind. Have they just stopped putting them online for some reason?
- Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:29 am
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Halloween 2018.
- Replies: 11
- Views: 1786
Re: Spoilers for Halloween 2018.
Sorry dude -- couldn't get access to the subtitles file today, which is usually how I've been transcribing them. Are there subtitles for this episode on 4oD for you? I can't tell if they're down for everyone or just me...
- Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:17 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Wednesday 24th October 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 84)
- Replies: 7
- Views: 1361
Re: Spoilers for Wednesday 24th October 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 84)
If DC said REMORSE in the NORMLESS round, they done screwed up -- and the wiki will need to be edited.
- Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:28 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Tuesday 23rd October 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 83)
- Replies: 6
- Views: 1273
Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 23rd October 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 83)
Poor Vicki... I whitewashed her. 
1st Numbers Alt.: (75 - 1) * (1 + 3 + 3) - 50
SONORITY to match TOURNOIS.

1st Numbers Alt.: (75 - 1) * (1 + 3 + 3) - 50
SONORITY to match TOURNOIS.
- Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:55 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Friday 12th October 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 76)
- Replies: 8
- Views: 1972
Re: Spoilers for Friday 12th October 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 76)
This series must be approaching the record for greatest number of people who have been provisionally ranked #1 seed, though I suspect Series 21 is still tops (see the factoid on the page).
- Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:27 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Thursday 11th October 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 75)
- Replies: 7
- Views: 1937
Re: Spoilers for Thursday 11th October 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 75)
I'll be really surprised (and disappointed) if mike doesn't make the 800 club After today, I honestly don't think he's that likely to anymore -- he'd need his highest score so far (115) to qualify. Still doable by all means if he gets a niner, though, and he's also probably going to yet again make ...
- Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:31 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Tuesday 9th October 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 73)
- Replies: 13
- Views: 1914
Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 9th October 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 73)
Oh yeah. And. PEGMATOID in the first round.
- Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:30 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Tuesday 9th October 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 73)
- Replies: 13
- Views: 1914
Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 9th October 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 73)
Without revealing his real last name, does anyone know if this challenger is "Alex H" from Apterous?
- Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:16 pm
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: C of C Draw......
- Replies: 105
- Views: 19150
Re: C of C Draw......
Were any of the CoC shows billed as being the 7000th episode? Officially that won't be until the second week of Series 80 proper, but the celebrations of "thousandth" episodes have tended to be slightly before the actual ones.
- Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:13 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Thursday 4th October 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 70)
- Replies: 11
- Views: 2057
Re: Spoilers for Thursday 4th October 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 70)
Pleased to get a max game here, though dampened somewhat by the max score being so low.
4th Numbers Alt.: (25 * 4 - 1 - 7) * 6
4th Numbers Alt.: (25 * 4 - 1 - 7) * 6
- Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:46 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for 3rd October 2018
- Replies: 8
- Views: 1471
Re: Spoilers for 3rd October 2018
Though they would be in pretty respectable companyDavid Williams wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:10 pmThose of us who followed it with DISAGREER in R2 would have got off to a pretty poor start.

- Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:23 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for 3rd October 2018
- Replies: 8
- Views: 1471
Re: Spoilers for 3rd October 2018
Mike is an Apterite, though he seems to have only played a double-digit number of games. Respect to both him and Tealin for assembling the highest joint score of the series so far.
- Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:31 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Tuesday 2nd October 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 68)
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1149
Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 2nd October 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 68)
LATERISED!
EDIT: Was also hoping for SEACOAST in the FACETS round but it's CSW only. Cripes.
EDIT: Was also hoping for SEACOAST in the FACETS round but it's CSW only. Cripes.
- Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:54 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for 1st October 2018
- Replies: 6
- Views: 1117
Re: Spoilers for 1st October 2018
Robin's range of heat scores must be one of the largest of any octochamp, though I suspect Glen Webb is still tops.
- Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:03 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for 1st October 2018
- Replies: 6
- Views: 1117
Re: Spoilers for 1st October 2018
PURPOSER to beat RAPPERS/POURERS.
Four octochamps in 33 games... mad skillz from Robin and all the others.
Four octochamps in 33 games... mad skillz from Robin and all the others.
- Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:06 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Thursday 27th September 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 65)
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1140
Re: Spoilers for Thursday 27th September 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 65)
Ryan Taylor got only 1/8. I think there may have been octos with 0/8 success rates in the 9 round era (Lindsay Denyer comes to mind).Ray Wilding wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 1:53 pmHas any Octochamp ever got 0 conundrums? He's 0/6 so far.
- Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:58 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for 26th September 2018
- Replies: 4
- Views: 961
Re: Spoilers for 26th September 2018
I hope Robin's scores keep linearly increasing and he gets like 150 in his last game.
- Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:34 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for 24th September 2018
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1305
Re: Spoilers for 24th September 2018
Um... Janet, I doubt "pronounciation" is Received Pronunciation. 

- Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:19 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Wednesday 19th September 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 59)
- Replies: 7
- Views: 1933
Re: Spoilers for Wednesday 19th September 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 59)
That conundrum answer was somewhat topical, as it's Yom Kippur (the Day of Atonement). For a couple more hours, anyway.
- Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:52 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Tuesday 18th September 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 58)
- Replies: 10
- Views: 1773
Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 18th September 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 58)
MATRONAGE to beat GARMENTO.
Nice job completing the octochampdom hat-trick, Dave!
Nice job completing the octochampdom hat-trick, Dave!
- Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:39 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Thursday 6th September 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 51)
- Replies: 8
- Views: 1736
Re: Spoilers for Thursday 6th September 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 51)
All of the targets since Tuesday have been repeats of a sequence from last week. Tony got parts of both repetitions.
- Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:48 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Tuesday 4th September 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 49)
- Replies: 3
- Views: 909
Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 4th September 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 49)
Thanks for confirming, Philip!
- Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:04 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Tuesday 4th September 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 49)
- Replies: 3
- Views: 909
Spoilers for Tuesday 4th September 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 49)
After the letter D was put up in Round 8 (PLAUDIT round), am I right in thinking that Sam asked for "another" consonant and Rachel mistakenly picked an A from the vowel box? Or did I just mishear him saying "a vowel"? Quite a close game, especially for so late in a run -- respect to both contestants...
- Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:37 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Monday 3rd September 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 48)
- Replies: 8
- Views: 2080
Re: Spoilers for Monday 3rd September 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 48)
"Can I have a concert, please, Rachel?" in the first letters round after the first break. Even the subtitles recorded him saying that!
- Fri Aug 31, 2018 2:14 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Friday 31st August 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 47)
- Replies: 9
- Views: 1477
Re: Spoilers for Friday 31st August 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 47)
It's LARGEBAPS all over again.
- Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:10 pm
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: The CoC Predictions Game
- Replies: 81
- Views: 12443
Re: The CoC Predictions Game
I predict Wynn and Chafer-Cook will get through to the first and second semi-finals, prevailing by a lot of points each time. Then Stewart Holden and Craig Beevers will crash the party and battle it out in the final.
Also, are there two Moles?
Also, are there two Moles?
- Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:06 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Tuesday 28th August 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 44)
- Replies: 11
- Views: 1763
Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 28th August 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 44)
Including his original stint in 1999, Tony has had four different DC guests in five games. Freaky, huh?
- Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:09 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Wednesday 22nd August 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 41)
- Replies: 11
- Views: 1332
Re: Spoilers for Wednesday 22nd August 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 41)
Another repeated CECIL sequence is on the march. R3 yesterday matched R14 of this episode from November 2017, and all targets since have been the same.
- Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:44 am
- Forum: Games and Puzzles
- Topic: Change one letter of a film title to make a funny one
- Replies: 63
- Views: 13863
- Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:08 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: How often do you go to the toilet?
- Replies: 18
- Views: 2838
Re: How often do you go to the toilet?
At least 6 times a day, sometimes 7-10 if I'm in a work environment that features free coffee. IBS is a bastard.
- Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:06 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Tuesday 21st August 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 40)
- Replies: 11
- Views: 1528
Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 21st August 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 40)
Took me an embarrassingly long time to remember what NEUROMAS + T was...
- Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:59 am
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Friday 17th August 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 38)
- Replies: 8
- Views: 1371
Re: Spoilers for Friday 17th August 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 38)
DLEEROTHF uses the same name but is probably too hard for a heat game
- Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:28 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Friday 17th August 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 38)
- Replies: 8
- Views: 1371
Re: Spoilers for Friday 17th August 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 38)
I thought this at first too but, being a fan of Van Halen and other classics, I think it might have been intended to spell out "D. Lee Roth".
- Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:48 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for 15th August 2018
- Replies: 14
- Views: 1716
Re: Spoilers for 15th August 2018
Why does the wiki show "* *" for MARLIER - that was said so should have no "*"? Because MARLIER isn't a word. And never has been. A double asterisk is a signal that there is an administrative error afoot. If MARLIER is indeed not specified in Premium, this will be at least the second time she's don...
- Wed Aug 15, 2018 2:44 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for 15th August 2018
- Replies: 14
- Views: 1716
Re: Spoilers for 15th August 2018
I can't have been the only one who mentally asked "Is it GANDISEEG?" on the second Teatime Teaser...
- Wed Aug 15, 2018 2:32 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for 15th August 2018
- Replies: 14
- Views: 1716
Re: Spoilers for 15th August 2018
Because MARLIER isn't a word. And never has been. A double asterisk is a signal that there is an administrative error afoot.Tony Atkins wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 2:29 pmWhy does the wiki show "* *" for MARLIER - that was said so should have no "*"?
- Wed Aug 15, 2018 2:22 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for 15th August 2018
- Replies: 14
- Views: 1716
Re: Spoilers for 15th August 2018
Yep, subtitles popped in just then. PAVES indeed. Thanks.